2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumWhat Bloomberg’s entry would do for Trump
Former NY mayors candidacy could split the vote and give Trump the White House
Every now and then a stopped clock is right. Speculation about a presidential bid by Michael Bloomberg, the former mayor of New York, is a quadrennial affair. It never happens because Mr Bloomberg can do the maths. Third party candidates do not win in America they usually come away with nothing. But 2016 is different. The political laws of gravity are in suspension. If there was ever a moment for a New York billionaire to roll the dice, now would be it. The question is what would happen if he did.
According to those around him, the prospect is not academic. People here are talking about nothing else, says a friend who works at Bloombergs news operation. The three-times mayor of New York has commissioned polls to look at how he would fare in a three-way race between Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton. Should Bernie Sanders be the Democratic nominee, Mr Bloombergs temptation would grow. Who then would speak for voters who believe in free trade, internationalism and global alliances? Not Mr Trump, for sure. Nor Mr Sanders. Enter Mayor Bloomberg.
the bold was mine. the poor beleaguered 1%... whoever will speak for them?
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/e25f28d6-c0f8-11e5-9fdb-87b8d15baec2.html#axzz3y6u8XJyk
screw him, and it won't work. this is clearly the last gasp of the establishment trying to cling to power.
dems will nominate bernie
repubs will nominate trump
the establishment 1% ers will support bloomberg. the people pissed off at the oligarchy will support trump or sanders. and since there are a LOT more of us than them, it guarantees bernie or trump in the white house.
still_one
(92,216 posts)elect Ryan.
It would be a disaster, but that is how it would play out under that scenario.
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)lets say there are three candidates, dem, repub, bloomberg. one of them will get more votes than the others. are you talking about the e.c.?
still_one
(92,216 posts)the republican house, where a republican would be the next president, and god forbid, if that happened, it most likely would be Ryan
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)who isnt running? the article i read said they had to pick one of the contenders.
still_one
(92,216 posts)"If no candidate receives a majority of Electoral votes, the House of Representatives elects the President from the 3 Presidential candidates who received the most Electoral votes. Each state delegation has one vote. The Senate would elect the Vice President from the 2 Vice Presidential candidates with the most Electoral votes. Each Senator would cast one vote for Vice President. If the House of Representatives fails to elect a President by Inauguration Day, the Vice-President Elect serves as acting President until the deadlock is resolved in the House. "
Agschmid
(28,749 posts)I know I said I won't be making predictions anymore but I feel strongly about this one.
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)he is getting the support, and he will get the votes imo
bernie v trump 2016
get your popcorn now!
still_one
(92,216 posts)Unless it's Cruz...
Haha, with the election cycle who the hell knows?!?!
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)trump would be less horrid than ryan imo. at least trump thinks for himself. ryan is a total puppet.
can you imagine what the british press would do with THIS??
ps thanx for posting the process info.
still_one
(92,216 posts)either Sanders, Trump, or Bloomberg, which would be decided by the house
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)Jenny_92808
(1,342 posts)They lost but were installed as winners.
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)Jenny_92808
(1,342 posts)B will only hurt Hillary.
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)looks like it could go to the house, but they are supposed to pick one of the three declared candidates. my guess would be trump
brooklynite
(94,591 posts)...unless you believe Bloomberg is phenomenally popular and would WIN a significant number of States.
Remember how many EVs Ross Perot got? None.
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)Joe Lieberman have been making the rounds of the so called talk shows? When the Dino Ed Rendell opened his mouth yesterday,you could see this coming. This is the Oligarch's Ticket,so everyone has to pay attention.
Jenny_92808
(1,342 posts)ensure the election of Bernie Sanders!
still_one
(92,216 posts)house
Jenny_92808
(1,342 posts)to spread fear.
DinahMoeHum
(21,794 posts). . .on those agendas. Not even Hillary supporters.
"Free trade", "internationalism" and "global alliances" are just not very sexy items for a political campaign; and most especially not for American workers, too many of whom blame the aforementioned items for lost jobs.
Another thing: He sure as hell won't get votes from the gun nuts out there. He has blamed lax gun laws in the red states too many times for mass shootings, IIRC.
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)don't remember his name,
said he would support bloomberg over sanders
if thats the way they want to play, i say bring it. either way, the estsblishment is going to have their asses handed to them.
trump v sanders 2016
get your popcorn now!
in_cog_ni_to
(41,600 posts)Rat *astard. PROOF TPTB, including the Democratic Party elites, would prefer an INSANE, DEMENTED, RACIST, BIGOTED PIG to be president rather than Bernie.
Problem is, Bloomberg gets ZERO VOTES from Bernie supporters and takes Trump votes, so BERNIE WILL BE OUR NEXT PRESIDENT.
Bloomberg is only getting in the race if BERNIE IS THE DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE.
PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)just like the rest of the hacks that are going to lose the lobby corporate gravy train.
bernie v trump 2016
get your popcorn now!
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)Third party candidates always hurt the party closest to them.
It's tough to measure his impact. He has all the charisma of a tree.
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)In a polarized race there is always room for a spoiler. But that assumes the person can garner support.
Rosa Luxemburg
(28,627 posts)Jenny_92808
(1,342 posts)white supremists are so stupid. I am white and know personally discrimination against women, only. I think they will vote trump. If hitler was here and alive they would probably vote for him.
in_cog_ni_to
(41,600 posts)Bloomberg certainly isn't taking ANY votes away from populist Bernie! No one planning to vote for Bernie would ever switch to Bloomberg. That's just stupid.
Bloomberg is Only entering the race if BERNIE and Trump are the nominees.
Proof positive TPTB, including the Democratic Party elites, prefer a racist, bigoted, demented, lying, evil PIG to be President rather than Bernie - Who is going to bring their House of Cards Down.
Their gravy train ends the day Bernie enters the WH.
PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE