2016 Postmortem
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Media bias on polls against Clinton now indisputable
Last July, in assessing the anti-Hillary spin that the national media always seems to show when reporting on state and national polls in the Democratic race, I wrote in my Purple Nation regular weekly column in The Hill newspaper, I for one would not be surprised if Sanders won or did very well in both Iowa and New Hampshire, especially the latter. After all, Sanders is from New Hampshires neighboring state of Vermont. I believe that no candidate from a New England state in recent years from either party has lost the New Hampshire primary other than the late Senator Ted Kennedy in 1980.
So far, the latest polls have confirmed my prediction. Also confirmed is the fact that media bias reporting on Sanders positive poll results and ignoring or downplaying Clintons continues.
The latest (and, historically, usually most reliable) Iowa Poll by The Des Moines Register as of Jan. 10 showed Secretary Clinton and Senator Sanders in a statistically dead heat: 42 percent Clinton and 40 percent Sanders (margin-of-error +/- 4.4 percent).
Regarding New Hampshire, on Tuesday of this week, the contrasting media coverage of two polls completed the same day Jan. 18 with comparable samples were stark. The overwhelming media attention was given to the CNN-WMUR TV poll, which found Senator Sanders with a substantial lead of 27 percent over Secretary Clinton 60 percent to 33 percent (420 likely voters in sample, with margin-of-error +/- 4.8 percent). The second poll, completed on the same day but with a larger sample size and smaller margin of error, conducted by the American Research Group (ARG), showed the race in a statistical dead heat, within the +/- 4 percent margin-of error with plus-6 percent at 49 percent to Clintons 43 percent (sample size 600 likely voters).
I am betting that few people reading this column in Iowa have even heard about the ARG results in New Hampshire.
On Sunday, Jan. 17, the NBC-Wall Street Journal national poll showed Clinton with a lead of 25 percent nationally among Democrats an increase over Decembers results.
The same poll showed Clinton defeating Trump by 10 percent, despite Trumps repeated claims that he leads over Clinton.
Yet, again, these positive poll results for Clinton and negative outcome for Senator Sanders were downplayed or virtually ignored by the national media and cable news stations. Even on NBCs Meet the Press on that Sunday, the moderator, Chuck Todd despite conducting interviews of both Clinton and Sanders ignored any mention of his own networks poll just published that morning.
The internal results of the NBC-WSJ poll also showed even more positive current data in favor of Clinton. For example, Clinton led 65 percent to 27 percent among women; 71 percent to 27 percent among 50-plus voters; 77 percent to 19 percent among voters who want "experience;" 54 percent to 43 percent among "liberals;" 64 percent-24 percent among moderates/conservatives; and plus-15 percent among white voters and, notably, 69 percent among "nonwhite primary voters." And 80 percent of Democrats nationally say they could see themselves voting for Clinton, vs. 67 percent would consider voting for Sanders. Again media coverage of these data, as far as I could tell, virtually zero.
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http://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/opinion/columnists/caucus/2016/01/20/media-bias-polls-against-clinton-now-indisputable/79076226/
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)for some months now. Beyond very real bias at the top against a woman president, there is a constant recurring pattern in election after election of a media-wide urge to tighten races to make better stories.
MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)I believe the MSM is determined to get a Republican in the WH. Having Sanders as the Dem nominee would practically guarantee that happens.
Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)says MR's wrong.
How many times have you read, heard, been told that polls are virtually worthless at this point? Yet you keep leaning on them.
synergie
(1,901 posts)graphic don't match up.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Absolutely, MoonRiver. I should have said that first.
MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)Iliyah
(25,111 posts)Iliyah
(25,111 posts)whatchamacallit
(15,558 posts)You guys are a hoot.
closeupready
(29,503 posts)m-lekktor
(3,675 posts)beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)I thought Hillary supporters didn't believe in those?
Oh and you should shorten your op to 4-5 paragraphs otherwise you're in violation of the copyright rules in the TOS.
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)I must say this is one of the more amusingly ludicrous conspiracy theories I've seen put forth...
Vinca
(50,310 posts)They wouldn't cover him at all until poll numbers showed him beating Hillary and all the GOP candidates. They still seem to cover him as the left's version of Trump which is more than offensive.
cali
(114,904 posts)m-lekktor
(3,675 posts)MBS
(9,688 posts)is a longtime Clinton friend and supporter: http://www.lannyjdavis.com
He may still be right, but you should keep the source in mind.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)Kentonio
(4,377 posts)litlbilly
(2,227 posts)Iliyah
(25,111 posts)of what the propaganda corporate media want - gawd dang "horse race' where there is none.
Oh yes, the DU use to be a Democratic site where independent opinions, views and opposition made it an illuminating discussion board but alas it has become single minded and dare no one oppose the majority. If this is the revolution, count me out.
Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)Has he taken up Mitt's "Unskewing" mantle?
Iliyah
(25,111 posts)which is totally hilarious. Again I guess the truth hurts - LOL
Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)cali
(114,904 posts)<snip>
According to Salon columnist Justin Elliot, Davis "specializes in lobbying for controversial corporate and foreign clients, particularly those seeking Democratic representation in Washington".[23] He has "built a client list that now includes oligarchic coup supporters in Honduras, a dictator in Equatorial Guinea, for-profit colleges accused of exploiting students, and a company that dominates the manufacture of additives for infant formula", as well as an "Ivory Coast strongman whose claims to that countrys presidency have been condemned by the international community and may even set off a civil war". Among his clients are "Ivory Coast leader and flagrant human rights violator Laurent Gbagbo" and "Teodoro Obiang Nguema Mbasogo, the longtime dictator of oil-rich Equatorial Guinea."[23] "Just as Davis was assuring the American press that his client, Gbagbo, opposed violence, Gbagbo's forces were in fact mounting a campaign of organized violence against the opposition".[24] The latter representation has earned him criticism from human rights groups, who claim that he "appears to be engaged in little more than a whitewashing exercise designed to rehabilitate the image of the Obiang regime on the international stage".[25] Similar criticisms were aired in an acerbic exchange with Jon Lovett in The Atlantic.[26]
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lanny_Davis#Opinions_and_criticism
cascadiance
(19,537 posts)When it is pretty obvious and indisputable that polls and bias have been pretty against Bernie for quite a while now. So many are LAUGHING at this latest attempt to try and find a way to get the corporate choice winning this election.
I see so many media pundits, etc. on all of the shows who've worked for Hillary's campaigns or her staff in the past, and then seeing the efforts to amplify the pundits voices and shut down online polls that have all shown Bernie to have won recent debates, etc., and yet we have a "media is biased towards Bernie" MYTH that they expect us to believe as if we are idiots!
draa
(975 posts)Now it's a media conspiracy to get him nominated. Self awareness is sorely lacking in this.
in_cog_ni_to
(41,600 posts)That makes this complete bullshit. Should have known before clicking the link.
PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE
Kentonio
(4,377 posts)riversedge
(70,310 posts)Kentonio
(4,377 posts)But now apparently it's all against Hillary? Yeah ok then...
synergie
(1,901 posts)several times a day and his people were there the other times.
gwheezie
(3,580 posts)People have made their fame and fortune attacking the Clinton's
Marty McGraw
(1,024 posts)Just ask Trump.
Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)nolabels
(13,133 posts)I thought there was a typo or something, i had to read twice and check my glasses
Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)Of course bias is disputable. It's a subjective word.
nolabels
(13,133 posts)When they get backed up on their heels they often try this kind of double switch. It's so cliche now and have gave up mincing any words because they are just full of themselves.
At any rate thanks for giggles
Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)Purveyor
(29,876 posts)libdem4life
(13,877 posts)Spoiler: the minutes the media allowed to these candidates...Trump, Hillary and Bernie are listed.
The numbers are 234, 113, and 10. Methinks the DesMoines newspaper just got it way wrong...especially since their golden endorsement hasn't produced results.
Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)OMG the Betty White zone and Hillary entering the White zone. I can't breathe.
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)coming...LOL.
Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)LOL remind me to watch this again sometime.
left-of-center2012
(34,195 posts)Number23
(24,544 posts)These numbers are absolutely MASSIVE for Clinton. In every single, solitary Democratic demographic she is killing it.
Sheepshank
(12,504 posts)I think in part it's about creating the horserace.
Skwmom
(12,685 posts)Avalux
(35,015 posts)840high
(17,196 posts)reformist2
(9,841 posts)Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)We lost so much this month. The news has been literally heartbreaking. So, we need at least one bright spot. Bernie has a way of making people feel better even if he is yelling and pointing.
retrowire
(10,345 posts)do we start calling Hillary supporters conspirators now or?
mhatrw
(10,786 posts)only in the establishment bubble
HassleCat
(6,409 posts)When these polls showed Clinton crushing Sanders in Iowa, they were vitally interesting, every bit as remarkable as the national polls showing Clinton with a big lead. Now these polls are just conservative propaganda. Interesting.