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question everything

(47,486 posts)
Sun Jan 24, 2016, 08:32 PM Jan 2016

An interesting observation (mine) about Sanders "America" ad

(with Simon and Garfunkel song)

It is a feel good ad, with happiness. Missing are Sanders' Old Testament style angry comments.

(Although I've heard it is being criticized as Lily White, like.... Iowa and New Hampshire..)

Oh well

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An interesting observation (mine) about Sanders "America" ad (Original Post) question everything Jan 2016 OP
I like wombats. beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #1
And pandas MissDeeds Jan 2016 #7
And why did Bernie only use angry Old Testament comments? beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #8
OMG! MissDeeds Jan 2016 #13
Blessed be the Holy name of Cheeses. Ramen. Autumn Jan 2016 #29
I would have preferred a montage of America's infrastructrure set to a 35 minute "dark star" Warren DeMontague Jan 2016 #11
Now that would be cool! beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #14
NOT GOOD ENOUGH, BERNIE! Warren DeMontague Jan 2016 #19
MOAR HIPPIE MUSIC ! beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #21
God, I love that tune. Warren DeMontague Jan 2016 #25
Magic. beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #28
MY GOD! Are those--- "weathervanes"???!!! John Poet Jan 2016 #22
I think they're chanting "Let Hill Sing" Warren DeMontague Jan 2016 #24
I want a one minute condensed Deny and Shred Jan 2016 #33
Hmmmmm. Get the late Joe Strummer to play it, or maybe the Guided By Voices guy. Warren DeMontague Jan 2016 #34
why does bernie hate wombats? restorefreedom Jan 2016 #12
And pandas. And turtles, where were the turtles? beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #15
not to mention the lepidopterans restorefreedom Jan 2016 #16
Well we knew that, it was obvious from the start. beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #23
snort. and the bottles of don perrinione? nt restorefreedom Jan 2016 #38
The Lepidopterans took me to their Mothership and probed me... catnhatnh Jan 2016 #27
lol nt restorefreedom Jan 2016 #39
Wombats. LOL! I love it. eom saltpoint Jan 2016 #37
Gosh, what a cutie Iliyah Jan 2016 #40
Feel good is important right before the caucus. femmedem Jan 2016 #2
"For everything there is a season" Ecclesiastes 3:1 Uncle Joe Jan 2016 #3
Quite a fine passage, quite a great saltpoint Jan 2016 #6
Can never resist the Byrds. Hoyt Jan 2016 #35
Folks might look a bit more saltpoint Jan 2016 #4
"Notably under-represented are millionaires and billionaires. " snagglepuss Jan 2016 #30
When you think about it Proserpina Jan 2016 #5
When I think about it, LWolf Jan 2016 #18
Agreed. The hope is stronger today than ever. Proserpina Jan 2016 #31
I like the idea of showing what a kinder economy could look like. Gregorian Jan 2016 #9
"Old Testament style angry comments"; like "marriage is a sacred bond between a man and a woman"? Warren DeMontague Jan 2016 #10
So endeth the thread. pa28 Jan 2016 #26
You need to remember that there are lots of ads running nonstop Motown_Johnny Jan 2016 #17
Contrary to popular opinion Bernie is not angry all the time. Kalidurga Jan 2016 #20
Only one quick shot of a lesbian couple when they get to the lyric... Smarmie Doofus Jan 2016 #32
This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Jan 2016 #36

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
8. And why did Bernie only use angry Old Testament comments?
Sun Jan 24, 2016, 09:04 PM
Jan 2016

I'm a Pastafarian and I demand equal representation from Bernie Sanders!


Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
11. I would have preferred a montage of America's infrastructrure set to a 35 minute "dark star"
Sun Jan 24, 2016, 09:32 PM
Jan 2016

but I never get what I really want.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
28. Magic.
Sun Jan 24, 2016, 10:20 PM
Jan 2016

That's the only way to describe what happened when those three got together and did their thing.

Still get chills listening to it.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
24. I think they're chanting "Let Hill Sing"
Sun Jan 24, 2016, 10:12 PM
Jan 2016

but after they heard her rendition of Eyes of the World, they reconsidered.

Deny and Shred

(1,061 posts)
33. I want a one minute condensed
Sun Jan 24, 2016, 10:41 PM
Jan 2016

Help, Slip, Don't You Want Me, China, Rider, Drum, Space, Cosmic Charlie.

I can't vote for Bernie without it.

Thanks Obama.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
34. Hmmmmm. Get the late Joe Strummer to play it, or maybe the Guided By Voices guy.
Sun Jan 24, 2016, 10:42 PM
Jan 2016

That would be a lot, to pack into a minute!

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
16. not to mention the lepidopterans
Sun Jan 24, 2016, 09:45 PM
Jan 2016


clearly bernie is biased against invertebrates. unfit to be president.

pandas

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
23. Well we knew that, it was obvious from the start.
Sun Jan 24, 2016, 10:10 PM
Jan 2016

Did you see the YACHTS in the background when he announced he was running for president?

WHERE WERE THE KAYAKS?

catnhatnh

(8,976 posts)
27. The Lepidopterans took me to their Mothership and probed me...
Sun Jan 24, 2016, 10:19 PM
Jan 2016

...then they flew around guzzling nectar and snickering.

femmedem

(8,203 posts)
2. Feel good is important right before the caucus.
Sun Jan 24, 2016, 08:37 PM
Jan 2016

It motivates people and increases turnout. Negative ads, at this point, depress turnout. It's the right ad at the right moment. (Although I do think he made a mistake having too few POC in the ad, regardless of where it is playing. I notice newer versions of the ad have made that correction.)

saltpoint

(50,986 posts)
6. Quite a fine passage, quite a great
Sun Jan 24, 2016, 08:38 PM
Jan 2016

recording, quite a generous gift-of-spirit from talented people.

And well chosen by the poster.

saltpoint

(50,986 posts)
4. Folks might look a bit more
Sun Jan 24, 2016, 08:37 PM
Jan 2016

carefully at the ad's success in representing many different kinds of Americans.

Quite a few are represented. Notably under-represented are millionaires and billionaires.

The ad has a zillion hits in just a couple days. I'd call it an ass-kicking success.

 

Proserpina

(2,352 posts)
5. When you think about it
Sun Jan 24, 2016, 08:37 PM
Jan 2016

The original lyrics to "America" are not full of hope and joy. They are pretty grim.

"America"

Let us be lovers,
We'll marry our fortunes together.
I've got some real estate
Here in my bag.

So we bought a pack of cigarettes,
And Mrs. Wagner's pies,
And walked off
To look for America.
"Kathy", I said,
As we boarded a Greyhound in Pittsburgh,
Michigan seems like a dream to me now.

It took me four days
To hitch-hike from Saginaw.
"I've come to look for America."

Laughing on the bus,
Playing games with the faces,
She said the man in the gabardine suit
Was a spy.

I said, "Be careful,
His bow tie is really a camera."
"Toss me a cigarette,
I think there's one in my raincoat."
We smoked the last one
An hour ago.

So I looked at the scenery,
She read her magazine;
And the moon rose over an open field.
"Kathy, I'm lost", I said,
Though I know she was sleeping.
"I'm empty and aching and
I don't know why."

Counting the cars
On the New Jersey Turnpike
The've all come
To look for America,
All come to look for America,
All come to look for America.


But it's been 50+ years, and the Boomers, their kids, and their grandkids are making the Big Wave that will wash away that time of quiet desperation, and bring America to the Promised Land it was always meant to be....for everyone!

LWolf

(46,179 posts)
18. When I think about it,
Sun Jan 24, 2016, 09:58 PM
Jan 2016

I know that the song speaks to the hope of American possibility, looking at what is and looking for that hope for better things. Despite the difference between reality and vision, all have still come. And we're still looking. We haven't given up.

I find the song fits America today as well as it did 50 years ago, when I was 5 years old. The fact that our hope is still there, is rising during this primary season, is rolling across America, certainly is joyful for me.

Gregorian

(23,867 posts)
9. I like the idea of showing what a kinder economy could look like.
Sun Jan 24, 2016, 09:12 PM
Jan 2016

I've been wanting to see ads that show people living their lives in a progressive society. Having 12 weeks of maternal leave. Higher wages. Better working conditions which include a democratic workplace. It's not sticking one's neck out because it's already being done somewhere else.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
10. "Old Testament style angry comments"; like "marriage is a sacred bond between a man and a woman"?
Sun Jan 24, 2016, 09:30 PM
Jan 2016
That kind of Old Testament Style anger?

 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
17. You need to remember that there are lots of ads running nonstop
Sun Jan 24, 2016, 09:54 PM
Jan 2016

and all the others have angry tones. Even Hillary's "closing argument" ad has fighters taking off from an aircraft carrier and Republicans firing assault rifles.


This is the one that will stand out. It is uplifting and hopeful, as well as being inclusive. Everyone who has gone to see Bernie, or who even thought about going to see Bernie, will picture himself/herself in that ad.

It was a brilliant move by a terrific candidate with a well run campaign.



Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
20. Contrary to popular opinion Bernie is not angry all the time.
Sun Jan 24, 2016, 10:06 PM
Jan 2016

When he is angry I think he is angry about the right things. Unless it's about getting too much hummus with the pita chips. Then wtf???

 

Smarmie Doofus

(14,498 posts)
32. Only one quick shot of a lesbian couple when they get to the lyric...
Sun Jan 24, 2016, 10:27 PM
Jan 2016

..." lovers" ( as in, "Let us be lovers&quot .

As a gay person I'm OUTRAGED ! *OUTRAGED*, do you hear? And I'm going to demonstrate said outrage by pouting vigorously, seething mightily, growing increasingly bitter and then casting my primary vote for Ms. "Marriage is a sacred bond between a man and a women."

Take that, Bernie!

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