If the GOP will block all of Bernie's bills, they will block all of HRC's bills, too.

[Ken Burch]

No Republican will ever negotiate with HRC on anything. None of them will ever compromise with her.

So it's just as fair to call her proposals undoable as it is to say that about Bernie's proposals.

By the logic of the "unicorn" canard, it would be pointless to bother trying to elect ANY Dem as president. So why accept a meme that says we're all doomed to failure no matter what?

[ebayfool]

1. ^^^^^That. Right there. What you said! ^^^^^^ n/t

[HassleCat]

2. Clinton is special

She will win them over with her charm.

[Quackers]

18. You spelled "payoff" wrong. nt

[tazkcmo]

3. Nuh uh! n/t

[longship]

4. That is why I support and will vote for Bernie in the primary.

And I will support and vote for the Democratic nominee whoever it is.

Screw those who won't do the same. Fuck them.

[yourout]

5. You can bet they will find "Common Ground" on more than one odious piece of crap.

My fear is not that they would never negotiate....my fear is the common ground.

[Ken Burch]

7. OK...They won't pass any of her supposedly progressive stuff.

They would approve a declaration of nuclear war against Iran. Or any trade deal.

[Bettie]

6. To be honest,

I have no belief that anyone in congress with an R after his or her name will ever again work with anyone with a D after their name.

It just won't happen, because they are entrenched in this cycle of hate. Pure hate.

Right now, I'm seeing ads attacking Rubio (who is awful) because he worked with someone from the other party, so yeah, about that getting anything done....not gonna happen no matter which of them is elected.

[rhett o rick]

8. I agree that saying that Sanders won't get anything passed by the terrilbe Repubs

is a bad thing. The insinuation is that H. Clinton will be able to get things passed by the Repbubs. If one has a brain they would realize that would mean she is passing things THAT THE REPUBLICONS WANT, which is probably true but NOT A GOOD THING.

[Kall]

9. I don't expect them to block all of her bills...

... for instance, once the Democratic primary is over, and the TPP becomes "the gold standard" again, that'll zoom right through.

No bills you would want will go through, though, surely. And it's amusing to watch her people argue that the Republicans will work with her constructively towards implementing her ostensible progressive priorities, when they hate her with the fury of a thousand suns.

[draa]

13. So will Keystone Pipeline.

She worked too hard at State to let that go.

She only hedged on both because they pissed off the base and she needed our support.

[IllinoisBrenel]

10. Republicans Are Her Enemies!

She'll have more problems than Bernie, because she said Republicans are her enemies! Not too smart!

[Ken Burch]

12. Good point. Every Republican in the House and the Senate and throughout the entire country.

sees HRC as Satan in a pantsuit. They think they are called by Gawwwddd to fight her and all her works. So why should anyone believe that she would "get things done"?

(at least progressive things).

[Lordquinton]

23. She will face hearings from day one

They will throw everything at her regardless of whether it sticks.

[Herman4747]

36. *AND IRANIANS!* nt

[Odin2005]

11. Hillary supporters really mean that she will cave in to GOP obstructionism...

...just like her corporate handlers want.

[CharlotteVale]

28. Bingo.

[glinda]

14. Aside from the things it appears she supports with them, they will be spending the whole

time trying to send her jail, censuring, evicting her from the White House....etc....a non-stop plethora of media moments and thrills.
That is unless she is closer to them than it appears....

[rpannier]

26. Didn't trey howdy gowdy doo dee say they were looking at impeaching her

if she were to get elected?

I think I saw somewhere they claimed they'd impeach her before she even occupied the WH

[glinda]

37. That is or was the mantra.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

15. No,...they LOVE her....

Plus they're TERRIFIED of being labeled "anti-woman".

[2pooped2pop]

16. Plus they will come out in droves just to vote against her. N/t

[Populist_Prole]

17. Obviously...As if Presiden't Obama softened the GOP's hearts by going ever rightward

But from a bargaining position I'd rather start left than not quite so right.

[Warren DeMontague]

19. It sounds like the only concrete thing she wants to do as POTUS is throw more money at the drug war

I dunno, she can probably get some members of congress to vote for that, like DWS.

http://amp.twimg.com/v/bc5e37cb-dbc1-4345-8ab0-08ed45544042

[ucrdem]

20. Bill and Hill can call in favors. Bernie is a lone ranger.

That's just how it is.

[azurnoir]

22. call in favors from who and for what exactly?

[Ken Burch]

24. There aren't any Republicans she can call in favors from. n/t.

[billhicks76]

21. And Clinton Will Back Down

Bernie won't. He'll take his case directly to the American People.

[Bernblu]

25. Bernei will have public support for his proposals

If the Republicans don't agree they will be out on their asses in the next election.

[kristopher]

27. IF Bernie's stats on swinging R's to his side holds...

IIRC he gets about 28% of R's in Vermont.

If his middle class economic appeal holds true nationally to override the divisive social issues, it will put an end to the gerrymandered districts - and the Republican Congressional majority - that every naysayer considers to be written in stone.

[uponit7771]

29. Again, HRC is NOT promising unicorns !!! The expectations are already low, I don't mind that

... as long as she does what she can

I understand the effects of a gerrymandered congress

[Ken Burch]

30. We all understand about Congress. And you know perfectly well that nobody thinks electing Bernie

will bring instant Nirvana(btw, please give the "unicorn" slur a rest. Bernie isn't promising unicorns).

The point is, Congress will say no to everything even mildly progressive that she proposes, so why even pretend she'd be better at "getting things done"?

[uponit7771]

32. I don't believe people do understand congress otherwise they'd see it as what it is; an imepedament

... to progress and something that we should go around and not through.

That's what HRC is proffering unilateral actions and not a bunch of bills, this is something Sanders will soon follow because he'll figure out that revolution isn't something that move congress.... they don't care about that.

I'll call them magical asterisks until he answers the question being posed here with a workable strategy and not slogans

[Hekate]

31. Well, it's up to us to see that Congress changes hands, isn't it? Just imagine how much more...

....Obama could have accomplished if Dems had gotten off their asses in the midterm elections and sent him some more Democrats to work with.

Maybe we can do better this time.

[Ken Burch]

33. Nobody ever said changing Congress doesn't matter.

And it will be easier to change Congress if we nominate someone who inspires passionate support.

(BTW, it was the party leadership's fault we lost in 2010. It's not possible to get a big turnout when you don't run a fire-up-the-base campaign. The base are the only voters who matter in midterms...centrist independents never go to the polls in those year. It's on the party to show people why they should care).

[mmonk]

34. Except what they get together on on behalf of the 1%

[lostnfound]

35. Bernie speaks plainly to public and will expose the GOP for what it is

The public isn't so cynical about what they hear from Bernie. He will expose the GOP by speaking the truth about the robbery going on, about the wealth transfer from public funds into corporate coffers.

[Motown_Johnny]

38. Unfortunately, that isn't true.

Hillary is conservative enough on some issues that she will sign what conservatives want passed, then call it a victory.


It will be worse than not getting anything done. It will be getting the wrong things done.