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Today's Nate's 538 Primary Polls-Only Forecast: South Carolina-Hillary-90%, Bernie-10% (Original Post) Alfresco Jan 2016 OP
Mayor Joe Riley understands the stakes in the election. It's why he's supporting @HillaryClinton. riversedge Jan 2016 #1
Thanks riversedge. Add all you like. :-) No prob. Alfresco Jan 2016 #2
Percentages are owned by Wall Street. onehandle Jan 2016 #3
90% workinclasszero Jan 2016 #4
One of many. :-) Alfresco Jan 2016 #5
Yes! workinclasszero Jan 2016 #6
Bernie will defy statistics... DCBob Jan 2016 #7
Will gravity be far behind? randome Jan 2016 #13
.. DCBob Jan 2016 #20
Well, yeah ... NanceGreggs Jan 2016 #27
Love those numbers! MoonRiver Jan 2016 #8
As a Bernie supporter I understand if he loses Iowa the primary race is over. JRLeft Jan 2016 #9
Iowa is a symbolic win for either candidate Tarc Jan 2016 #10
Bernie needs to show everyone he can win he needs Iowa and New Hampshire. JRLeft Jan 2016 #11
Yeah, it becomes increasingly insurmountable. joshcryer Jan 2016 #12
Iowa definitely means more to Bernie than Clinton, but Godhumor Jan 2016 #15
Has Nate ever been right this year awake Jan 2016 #14
You could check. wildeyed Jan 2016 #22
Wow! NurseJackie Jan 2016 #16
Nate uses endorsements in his predictions. Motown_Johnny Jan 2016 #17
No, that is the polls-only number. wildeyed Jan 2016 #23
He does? Well endorsements do often come with a block of voters underpants Jan 2016 #30
To quote Bill Clinton DefenseLawyer Jan 2016 #18
What chance does any Democrat have of winning the GE in South Carolina? EndElectoral Jan 2016 #19
Sweet Georgia Brown. That is.. brutal. Number23 Jan 2016 #21
you realize you've established yourself as a hateful, horrible, terrible person for posting this. Bill USA Jan 2016 #24
Yes I know. I am just another Hillary supporter on GD-P. :-) Alfresco Jan 2016 #31
Nate is out on a limb, and sawing as fast as he can Ferd Berfel Jan 2016 #25
If you believe that I have a bridge for sale. Fearless Jan 2016 #26
Bernie has no game plan beyond SC and Nevada Sheepshank Jan 2016 #28
Iowa and NH are important both Super Tuesday will probably decide the winner underpants Jan 2016 #29

riversedge

(70,242 posts)
1. Mayor Joe Riley understands the stakes in the election. It's why he's supporting @HillaryClinton.
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 08:16 AM
Jan 2016

Found some HillaryforSC posts for your thread. Hope ok





Hillary for SC Retweeted
Stephanie ‏@FormasForever Jan 23

Mayor Joe Riley understands the stakes in the election. It's why he's supporting @HillaryClinton. #sctweets


:large

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
13. Will gravity be far behind?
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 10:20 AM
Jan 2016

Imagine: a Bernie who can fly at will!
[hr][font color="blue"][center]A 90% chance of rain means the same as a 10% chance:
It might rain and it might not.
[/center][/font][hr]

 

JRLeft

(7,010 posts)
9. As a Bernie supporter I understand if he loses Iowa the primary race is over.
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 09:44 AM
Jan 2016

He has to win there.

Tarc

(10,476 posts)
10. Iowa is a symbolic win for either candidate
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 10:14 AM
Jan 2016

In 2008 it split 16/15/14 for Obama, Edwards, and Clinton respectively. A win in Iowa is a nice buzz, but it rarely actually matters in the long run.

joshcryer

(62,276 posts)
12. Yeah, it becomes increasingly insurmountable.
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 10:19 AM
Jan 2016

A good showing in IA would still be OK, it wouldn't be the end, a bad loss or a surprise Dean style loss would end it very quickly.

Godhumor

(6,437 posts)
15. Iowa definitely means more to Bernie than Clinton, but
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 11:24 AM
Jan 2016

If he loses Iowa but wins NH, he would still be considered in the race.

Weird dynamic to be sure:

Clinton could lose both the first two states and Nevada and still be considered an overwhelming favorite due to the states that come after (If she loses those 3 and SC, on the other hand...).

Bernie could lose Iowa and win NH and still be considered a longshot. But, weirdly, that holds true even if he wins both.

If he manages to lose both, Clinton pivots to the GE and the primary becomes an afterthought.

For all practical purposes, Clinton has a three primary buffer versus a one primary buffer for Sanders.

Give Sanders credit, though, very few people even thought he'd be in the conversation at this point.

awake

(3,226 posts)
14. Has Nate ever been right this year
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 11:16 AM
Jan 2016

I heard that all of his perdiction are wrong so far has anyone else heard that?

wildeyed

(11,243 posts)
22. You could check.
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 09:06 PM
Jan 2016

Seriously. He has a website. You don't need to rely on rumors. But also, he only just started primary forecasting, so there has not been an opportunity for him to be wrong.

 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
17. Nate uses endorsements in his predictions.
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 01:19 PM
Jan 2016

I am not sure that they will be as important this time around since the fight seems to be insider v outsider. The insider getting the establishment endorsements just don't seem as important.

Also...


http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2016/01/25/lawyer-for-walter-scott-family-switches-sides-to-endorse-bernie-sanders/

^snip^

The lawyer for the family of Walter L. Scott, who was fatally shot by a police officer in South Carolina, is withdrawing his support from Hillary Clinton and endorsing Senator Bernie Sanders of Vermont on Monday afternoon.




On the bright side, it is nice to see Clinton supporters already retreating to her "firewall" states. Good luck with that.

underpants

(182,826 posts)
30. He does? Well endorsements do often come with a block of voters
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 09:54 PM
Jan 2016

and volunteers. There are still local party bosses in each party. Getting their support is important.

Bill USA

(6,436 posts)
24. you realize you've established yourself as a hateful, horrible, terrible person for posting this.
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 09:13 PM
Jan 2016

There will be no room in Heaven for heretics like you!!!!!!

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
28. Bernie has no game plan beyond SC and Nevada
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 09:29 PM
Jan 2016

If he is able to win any of those first four states, he will have been able to save face....and that is all.

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