If Hillary wins the nomination and Bernie runs as an independent, who do you support?

[tarheelsunc]

Seen a lot of talk about Bloomberg and whatever hypothetical support he would have. So I want to know, if Hillary wins the nomination fair and square and Bernie decides to run as an independent, who do you support? A lot of people are saying they'll support the Democratic nominee, but I have a hard time believing Bernie supporters will support Hillary over Bernie if that's what it came down to.

[cali]

1. Sorry, unlike Hillary, Bernie is neither a liar or an obfuscater

He said no way he'd run as an independent. Period. He can be trusted to keep his word. He's represented me for 25 years. I know.

[tech3149]

19. Thank You for stating that

He stated originally he was running as a Democrat specifically so as not to e a spoiler.
Anyone questioning "What would you do if?" is simply trolling.

[John Poet]

46. In addition, it is not a very practical possibility

to attempt to run as an independent after contesting a party's nomination, because "sore loser laws" would prevent him from getting on the ballot in many states where he had already appeared on a primary ballot.

[Jarqui]

53. +1

(He didn't represent me geographically.)

Ignoring that he isn't going to run as an independent, I'd lean towards still supporting him as an independent. My reservation would be that in doing so, I don't put the GOP candidate in the White House.

[jonno99]

58. +1 Agree. nt

[Ed Suspicious]

2. It's a trap!

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[Zorra]

3. Hillary has already lost all possible "fair and square" credibility.

You may want to rephrase the question to fit reality.

[Vinca]

4. It's a silly question because Bernie has said time and time again he would never do that.

I will vote for Hillary if I have to, but I don't have to be happy about it. I'm sure Bernie would do the same.

[Bettie]

5. I honstly don't think he would do that

And I'd still vote for the Dem party nominee.

But it won't be an issue.

[berni_mccoy]

6. If Bernie were going to run as an independent, he'd already have been doing that.

He's running as a Democrat because having one of the Republican clowns get the presidency would be far worse than Clinton.

[JRLeft]

11. Yep republican lite is better than ultra right wing republican.

[Tarc]

7. Bernie Sanders is of better character than the tiny subset of his supporters

that screech that they will vote for no one but him. I have no worries at all for the fall; Bernie would support Hillary as the nominee and Hillary would support Bernie.

[LondonReign2]

30. Actually, we "screech" that we won't vote for Third Wayers ever again

Quite different than not voting for anyone but Bernie.

[Ken Burch]

8. We already know Bernie would never do that. And so do you. n/t.

[vorgan24]

9. Loving how so many people are refusing to answer that question.

Simple question, simple answer.

I'll support whatever Democrat gets the nomination.

See, was that so hard?

[zalinda]

13. Another loyalty oath, sigh......

You have nothing to worry about with dyed in the wool Democrats, they will hold their nose and vote for Hillary. Those who are recent dems, indies and sometime voter, will probably not vote for Hillary. The Democratic party only has about 29% of those who are registered to vote, and of those 29%, many will not vote for Hillary.

What Hillary supporters fail to see is that the surges for Bernie, are for BERNIE, not the Democratic party. You can bet that the vast majority of new to the election process will not vote for Hillary, no matter what Bernie asks them to do. They are coming for the revolution, not to keep things the same. They will go back home and keep their heads down hoping to make it until someone else comes along that offers them REAL CHANGE, not smoke and mirrors. Or they will write in a vote for Bernie any way, create a new party that will destroy the Democratic party, or say 'fuck it' nothing will ever change and start an armed revolution.

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[longship]

16. As will Bernie support the Dem nominee.

As he has said more than once. That's the answer.

So let's not make up shit about Bernie running as an independant. (OP)

[cali]

20. Because the question sits atop a steaming pile of shit.

[ChisolmTrailDem]

26. Do you have a comprehension problem or are you just trying to start shit? nt

[demmiblue]

10. He won't run as an independent, so what is the point of this OP?

[Maedhros]

38. To bait posters into violating the TOS and getting tombstoned. [n/t]

[ljm2002]

12. Bloomberg is talking about a third-party run...

...while Sanders has said he will NOT run as a third-party candidate.

Bogus question.

[Luciferous]

14. I doubt Bernie will run as an independent, but I will write him in if I have to- I refuse

to vote for Hillary.

[Punkingal]

15. He won't run as an independent.

[restorefreedom]

17. bernie is not running as an indy

i will vote for dem/progressive ideas over conservative hogwash any day.

one screaming exception...if bernie gets the delegates through popular vote and the supers steal it for hillary by refusing to switch, then all bets are off, since that will be an illegitimate nom.

thinking that unlikely, however, since they know such a move would destroy whats left of the party.

[Orsino]

18. If Hillary had super-strength, and Bernie had the power of flight...

...which of the 8,389 loyalty pledges on DU would you sign?

[CharlotteVale]

23. ROFL.

[LondonReign2]

32. They would like us to sign all 8,389. Just, you know, to be certain.

[jonno99]

59. Excellent!

[winter is coming]

64. ^^ Thread win! n/t

[phleshdef]

21. Bernie said he wouldn't do that and I take him at his word.

[KingFlorez]

22. Clinton of course

[EndElectoral]

24. Trap question. Sanders has already said he wouldn't do that. Irrelevant question.

[Motown_Johnny]

25. I will vote for the (D), but not ever truly support Hillary.

She is the lesser evil. I can't support her. I will vote against the Republican nominee (and any Independent if need be) but that is not the same as supporting Hillary.


I hope to vote for the greater good instead of just voting for the lesser evil. The results of the primary will decide if I am am have that opportunity or not.

[PoliticAverse]

27. Sanders won't be running as an independent. Please don't feed trolls. n/t

[Attorney in Texas]

28. If Hillary grows wings and Bernie runs as an ostrich, who do you support?

This contra-factual hypothetical is equally important for us to speculate about.

What if Hillary runs as an independent? Who cares? Neither Clinton nor Sanders is going to run as an independent.

[gwheezie]

29. Bernie will vote for HRC if she is the nominee

He said he wouldn't run indie so I believe him. Me and Bernie will vote for Hillary. Unless he renounces being a dem I suspect he will campaign for her.

[HassleCat]

31. He would not do it. End of story. (eom)

[NCTraveler]

33. Hillary, of course.

Sanders is too intelligent to do something that foolish, so it's really not even worth discussion.

[CaliforniaPeggy]

34. He has already made clear that he will not do that. He is not a spoiler. n/t

[hrmjustin]

35. Sanders gave his word he would not do thst.

I believe him.

[KingCharlemagne]

36. Da fuq? - nt

[PeteSelman]

37. Allowing any one of those insane people on the right win is out of the question.

You have to vote for Hillary, painful as it may be.

The point is moot though because Bernie would never do this.

[vi5]

39. How about we see what kind of GE campaign Hillary runs....

That's what I'm waiting to see. I don't support her in the primary. Hell, I think I'd probably choose O'Malley in the primary over Hillary. I'm not nearly as much of a "Bernie supporter" as I am a "Hillary skeptic".

However, I'm taking a wait and see approach as to what kind of General election campaign she runs. Will she continue this negativity and aversion with regard to the concept of looking for big change? Or will she and Bill continue their "Hey, things suck get used to it." attitude?

Will she move to the left and adopt a more progressive tone to her campaign and it's goals? Or will she hippie punch her way to trying to get the approval of the beltway media and people who she will never, ever get to support her no matter what she says and does?

I'm not committing to anything either way at this point.

[tazkcmo]

56. She's running a GE campaign now.

Or was up until a week ago. She never took him seriously as she bought into her own inevitability and entitlement.

[vi5]

62. Agreed for the most part...

But I want to see how she is when there are no road blocks. Right now she's at least being forced to pretend she has some progressive positions and that she would act on those supposed principles. I want to see how she is when she's running against a fellow conservative.

[Duckhunter935]

40. Bernie will not run as an independent

Nice trap to try to get people stoned. I will vote for the down ticket races. I will not vote for Hillary. Others will do as they see fit, I do not talk for them or advocate they do not vote. I am in a state that will not matter in the general for the presidential ticket. Reliably very red.

[beam me up scottie]

41. .

[whatchamacallit]

42. I follow my principles

even if it means getting 86'd from the country club.

[Kentonio]

43. There's only one scenario which could re-open the possibility of him running as an independent.

And that would be if he won a large majority in the primaries but the superdelegates then gave the race to Hillary anyway.

Even then I don't think he'd actually do it, but I'm damn sure a lot of his surrogates would call for him to. It would be a civil war in the party.

[Blue_In_AK]

44. Bernie has always said he won't do that.

Why are you asking?

[Spirochete]

45. Who would win in a fight

between PeeWee Herman and Gilligan?

[Autumn]

48. My turtle,

as soon as I buy one.

[Spirochete]

49. No fair

bringing in a ringer, now...

[Autumn]

47. If Trump becomes a democrat and wins the nomination, who do you support?

[Snotcicles]

50. Another trash worthy shit stirrin driveby. nt

[artislife]

51. TOS bait, there hmjustin, happy? nt

[Cleita]

52. Bernie has repeatedly said he won't run as an Independent and become a spoiler.

Bernie has always been true to his word in regard to his campaign. So don't even start a flame war over this.

[tazkcmo]

54. Not gonna happen.

He stated he would not do this. I believe him. As for will his supporters vote for Clinton? You'd have to ask them individually as we're not a monolithic group. Personally, I'll not answer and leave it enshrouded in mystery!

[Truprogressive85]

55. Why is this a question?

It is Hillary Clinton 's facist friend that stated if she doesn't win the nomination ,he would run

[bowens43]

57. I wont vote for hillary under any circumstances

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

60. Not Hillary. Not Bloomberg. Not a Republican.

I'll vote for the most progressive candidate on the ballot.

[bigwillq]

63. This.

[DonCoquixote]

61. democrat

as sad as a Hillary presidency WOULD BE, it is the only alternative to a GOP presidency. 2000 proved that.

[Amimnoch]

65. Well, since i'm for Hillary in the primaries, i'll be for her in the General. This doesn't help.

Senator Sanders has drummed up a lot of support. He has tapped into, and struck the nerve of people who are fed up, and feel marginalized or jaded with the status quo.

One thing the Senator is not: stupid. A Hillary/Trump or Hillary/Cruz (or any other general) with a third party Sanders would guarantee a Republican win. I can't imagine for a second that Senator Sanders would do that. At the end of the day he cares too much. If he can't win the Democratic ticket, he knows he won't win the presidency as a 3rd party candidate. Worse, he will likely lose much of his credibility, and a not so insignificant number of his supporters.

This is insulting and demeaning to those who support the Senator, and would be every bit as wrong to suggest or ask people who declare loyalty if Hillary ran 3rd party.

Yes, if Hillary wins, some of the support that Sanders garnered will be bitter enough to risk a Republican presidency. I don't agree with it, but it is their vote and their right. With all that's at risk, I'm hoping that number won't be enough to cost us the Presidency.

I am not in those number, but I'm sure that there are democrats that support Hillary, that won't support Sanders as well. I don't agree with them, but again it is their vote and their right.

[Le Taz Hot]

66. Won't happen.

Bernie has integrity. He said he won't run as an Independent and he won't.