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Eugene

(61,900 posts)
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 10:25 AM Jan 2016

Obama: Sanders has 'luxury' of being long shot in Democratic race

Source: Reuters

Homepage | Mon Jan 25, 2016 8:32am EST

Obama: Sanders has 'luxury' of being long shot in Democratic race

WASHINGTON

Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders has had the "luxury of being a complete long shot" so far in the race to be the U.S. Democratic presidential candidate, President Barack Obama said in an interview published by Politico on Monday.

Obama said both Sanders and Clinton, his former Secretary of State, share similar views on core issues like income inequality, but said Clinton faces the disadvantage of being a well-known commodity "in a culture in which new is always better."

"I think Bernie came in with the luxury of being a complete long shot and just letting loose," Obama said in the interview with the political news website. "I think Hillary came in with the both privilege and burden of being perceived as the front-runner," he said.

Obama lauded Clinton's experience, saying it will help her govern if she wins, but he described her campaign as "cautious."

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Read more: http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-obama-idUSKCN0V31J1

Source: Politico

Exclusive: Obama on Iowa, Clinton, Sanders and 2016

In an Oval Office interview for POLITICO's Off Message podcast, the president offers his
most expansive comments yet on the race to succeed him in the White House.


By Glenn Thrush
01/25/16 06:00 AM EST

Barack Obama, that prematurely gray elder statesman, is laboring mightily to remain neutral during Hillary Clinton’s battle with Bernie Sanders in Iowa, the state that cemented his political legend and secured his path to the presidency.

But in a candid 40-minute interview for POLITICO’s Off Message podcast as the first flakes of the blizzard fell outside the Oval Office, he couldn’t hide his obvious affection for Clinton or his implicit feeling that she, not Sanders, best understands the unpalatably pragmatic demands of a presidency he likens to the world’s most challenging walk-and-chew-gum exercise.

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Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/01/obama-iowa-2016-sanders-off-message-218166
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Obama: Sanders has 'luxury' of being long shot in Democratic race (Original Post) Eugene Jan 2016 OP
Sanders has been at this longer than Clinton pengu Jan 2016 #1
thread over. restorefreedom Jan 2016 #2
Yeahup..... daleanime Jan 2016 #5
I didn't know... quickesst Jan 2016 #8
He founded the congressional progressive caucus in 1991 pengu Jan 2016 #11
I was not disputing his accomplishments... quickesst Jan 2016 #15
Who says noobs can't hit the ball? demwing Jan 2016 #12
I was on dailykos since 2006 pengu Jan 2016 #14
I really do respect our President Tom Rinaldo Jan 2016 #3
Stupid. There's no "luxury" to being a long shot for President unless TwilightGardener Jan 2016 #4
It was dissed that way. Arkana Jan 2016 #10
He's right about HIllary and her "privilege," at least. morningfog Jan 2016 #6
i agree with him. he is pretty good and objective JI7 Jan 2016 #7
"in a culture in which new is always better"... ljm2002 Jan 2016 #9
There are all sorts of ways of trying to belittle mmonk Jan 2016 #13
There's a grain of truth there. Orsino Jan 2016 #16
How is not having a financial war chest, and lack of name recognition a luxury? C'mon Barrack. EndElectoral Jan 2016 #17
what, this is some sort of NOVELTY? some wilful gratuitous PERQUISITE? MisterP Jan 2016 #18

pengu

(462 posts)
1. Sanders has been at this longer than Clinton
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 10:29 AM
Jan 2016

He's been working for the people as an elected official since 1981.

He isn't the "new thing". He's rock solid in his principles and has been consistent about it for DECADES.

I reject framing Bernie as a "new thing". Just because you haven't been paying attention doesn't make him new.

quickesst

(6,280 posts)
8. I didn't know...
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 10:49 AM
Jan 2016

... who Bernie Sanders was until his name came up as a possible candidate in the presidential election, and only after the reality that Elizabeth Warren was not going to run had finally set in. I'm 64 years old, and not a big political animal, but I do try to keep up with what is pertinent in American politics. Bernie Sanders may have been around for a long time, but he hasn't made a big impact on the national political scene until now. So yeah, in that sense, he is new to me, as well as, I suspect, he is to most Americans.

pengu

(462 posts)
11. He founded the congressional progressive caucus in 1991
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 12:03 PM
Jan 2016

He's had a distinguished and very progressive career for two and a half decades in national politics. I know a lot of people hadn't heard of him, but it's still hard for me to wrap my head around. He's been a strong progressive voice in federal politics (not even counting his time as mayor) since before Bill Clinton became president.

quickesst

(6,280 posts)
15. I was not disputing his accomplishments...
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 01:16 PM
Jan 2016

... I was just pointing out that to the average voter out there, he is not well known, although that has been, and is , rapidly changing. All of this will be over shortly, and perhaps the majority of us can concentrate on keeping trump or cruz as far away from the White House as possible, or any republican for that matter.

 

demwing

(16,916 posts)
12. Who says noobs can't hit the ball?
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 12:27 PM
Jan 2016

Homerun post! Proves that being new to DU doesn't make you new to the game.

Welcome to DU!

pengu

(462 posts)
14. I was on dailykos since 2006
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 12:58 PM
Jan 2016

The DK5 redesign ruined that site for me. I'm a noob here but not to the netroots/progressive politics.

Tom Rinaldo

(22,913 posts)
3. I really do respect our President
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 10:33 AM
Jan 2016

Especially during this his second term in office. It's not the greatest of his talents, there are more meaningful ones, but no one is better with words than he.

Having said that this has to be the penultimate "making lemonade out of lemons" metaphor:

"Clinton faces the disadvantage of being a well-known commodity"

TwilightGardener

(46,416 posts)
4. Stupid. There's no "luxury" to being a long shot for President unless
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 10:39 AM
Jan 2016

it's a vanity run, not intended to win. Sanders is dead serious, and in a hard slog to the finish line. I'm sure Obama wouldn't have liked his own "long shot" run being dissed that way.

ljm2002

(10,751 posts)
9. "in a culture in which new is always better"...
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 10:58 AM
Jan 2016

...that seems a little disingenuous, since Sen. Sanders has been around politically for a very long time. Longer, in fact, than Sec. Clinton.

And in all that time, Sanders has a very consistent record. Not 100% consistent, but damn close.

Whereas, in Clinton's case... she has been far, far from 100% consistent in her positions over the years.

No, I'd not call Sanders "new". And I don't think the American public is warming to him because he's "new".

Even Pres. Obama is falling into the trap of believing in the old politics. Which is weird, since he won by promoting a new vision. Although with hindsight, we can see that his "new vision" was not as ambitious as many of had thought, and hoped. He also had to deal with the Republican obstructionists of course -- they were far worse than many of us expected, almost certainly due to racial animus IMO.

Anyway, I am not surprised he is supporting Sec. Clinton. I do think his analysis is a bit off. Again he, like many of his establishment Democratic peers, seems to be misreading the mood of the electorate this cycle.

Well in a few days we will see if that mood translates into votes, and if so, how many.

Go Bernie!

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
16. There's a grain of truth there.
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 01:17 PM
Jan 2016

The Right has spent two decades training dumbasses to reflexively hate anyone whose name rhymes with Clinton. They don't have time to give Sanders anything like the same treatment before the convention.

He only has to face the more nebulous charges of "progressive" and "socialist."

EndElectoral

(4,213 posts)
17. How is not having a financial war chest, and lack of name recognition a luxury? C'mon Barrack.
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 01:24 PM
Jan 2016

I don't think you considered that a luxury when you ran in 2008...

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
18. what, this is some sort of NOVELTY? some wilful gratuitous PERQUISITE?
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 02:48 PM
Jan 2016

something we're just AMUSING ourselves with?

he really does think anything but smarmy Blairism is a knowing waste of time: he really doesn't understand that there's things that everybody needs, that we can't tighten our belts any further, and that we WON'T do so to further powder the asses of the super-rich

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