Hillary once called for people on welfare to move from "dependency to dignity"

[ram2008]

Just thought we'd have a little memory refresher. In supporting her husbands gutting of Welfare via the 1994 Welfare Bill:

"Since we first asked mothers to move from welfare to work, millions of families have made the transition from dependency to dignity." -- Hillary Clinton

You know, all those undignified moms, the welfare queens, sitting on their butts all day taking all your tax dollars /s
Sounds like something that would come out of Marco Rubio's mouth, but it was Hillary.

“There were people in the White House who said, ‘just sign anything,’ you know,’ the New York senator said in an interview. ‘And I thought that was wrong. We wanted to do it in a way that kept faith with our goals: End welfare as we know it, substitute dignity for dependence, but make work pay." -- Hillary Clinton

http://www.buzzfeed.com/christophermassie/hillary-clinton-used-to-talk-about-how-the-people-on-welfare#.kwMOOvD5N

Oh thank you so much for your consideration Hillary, you've done such a great job looking out for minorities which the welfare bill unfairly targets! /s

If only there was a candidate who had the foresight to see this and who voted NO to a welfare bill which unfairly targeted minorities. What's that you say? There is?!

Bernie Sanders on Clinton Welfare "Reform":

The bill, which combines an assault on the poor, women and children, minorities, and immigrants is the grand slam of scapegoating legislation, and appeals to the frustrations and ignorance of the American people along a wide spectrum of prejudices.

My concern is in the process of welfare reform, we begin to look at the causes of poverty in America, that we make sure that we improve the situation and not punish poor people and children, especially the children. --Bernie Sanders

http://www.c-span.org/video/?57136-1/welfare-reform

Thank you Bernie for standing up for the underprivileged and minorities, while others were spouting off Republican scapegoating talking points!

[peacebird]

1. She's a champion of womens rights as long as you aren't a poor woman with kids who needs welfare

Or a woman in Iraq, or the wife or mother of a member of our military - with endless deployments.

[Akicita]

59. Or have big hair or live in a trailor park.

[roguevalley]

60. but work should only pay 12 dollars

[Divernan]

76. Or live where US built cluster bombs will be dropped.

[SoLeftIAmRight]

2. maybe they should move into a house close to hers

get their hair and nails do at the same place

go shopping for clothes where she does

they could just move on up

and they should get a pony also

[CharlotteVale]

3. Ugly judgmental words from a very rich member of the 1%.

[ram2008]

5. What do you mean? She was once dead broke

It's hard paying for that 50,000 dollar a week Hampton getaway, you wouldn't understand.

[KittyWampus]

7. Paying for lawyers to fight rightwing attacks for about a decade. And the Clintons won.

Something Bernie has NEVER proved he can do.

[ram2008]

10. Isn't that the excuse Palin used to resign her governorship?

Not being able to pay for her lawyers?

[cali]

26. They were never fucking dead broke. They knew perfectly well

they had a gold ticket in hand. Claiming they were dead broke was typically hilly dishonesty.

[LiberalArkie]

27. I have known plenty of wealthy people who claim they are broke after buying new cars

for themselves and kids and wife every year. Going on family vacations to Europe or Africa or the Pacific every summer and winter. Putting thousands of dollars every year in IRA's, and other investments. But that is not what I call dead broke though.

[SoapBox]

32. And when they left the WH, they were already scheming for that Senate spot.

Dead broke my ass.

[Empowerer]

44. She already HAD that Senate spot when they left the White House

[KittyWampus]

69. LOL! Sanders supporters being pedantic.

[cali]

71. You shouldn't use words you don't know the meaning of, kitty.

So fail, kitty.

[AlbertCat]

34. Something Bernie has NEVER proved he can do.

Perhaps he won't have to....

[beam me up scottie]

56. "the Clintons won. Something Bernie has NEVER proved he can do"?

Bernie never won an election?

[Dustlawyer]

74. He sure got the DNC and Debbie W. Schultz to back the hell off!

Didn't take him very long either.

[Divernan]

77. Settlements with non-disclosure agreements are NOT wins!

Neither was the settlement with Paula Jones:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/clinton/stories/jones111498.htm

President Clinton reached an out-of-court settlement with Paula Jones yesterday, agreeing to pay her $850,000 to drop the sexual harassment lawsuit that led to the worst political crisis of his career and only the third presidential impeachment inquiry in American history.

The settlement foreclosed the possibility that Clinton's personal life would be reopened for public inspection at a sensational trial had the lawsuit dismissed in April been reinstated, as many lawyers involved believed it would be. It also may help the president's allies defend him against independent counsel Kenneth W. Starr's allegations that he lied and obstructed justice during the case, while providing a new opportunity for the White House to cut a separate deal with Congress to drop impeachment proceedings.

Just hours before the settlement was inked yesterday, Starr sent new evidence to the House Judiciary Committee stemming from a witness in the Jones case, Kathleen E. Willey, who also accused Clinton of an unwelcome sexual advance.

Jones made no public comment, but her husband, Steve, told reporters outside their California condominium that the payment amounts to an apology on its own.

"Let the impeachment hearings begin. We want out of it," he said. "Paying a substantial amount of money makes a statement on its own. This is Paula's reputation that we were fighting for. This has nothing to do with an ax to grind with Bill Clinton."

[KittyWampus]

6. Wanting people to move from dependency to independence is judgmental?

Ugly words from a Sanders supporter.

[Krytan11c]

16. Oh, but that's not what Hillary said.

She implied that it is undignified to be dependent. Pretty big difference there.

Ugly words from Hillary.

[99th_Monkey]

17. Borrowed lines from the RW GOP playbook

This is exactly the rationale used by the RW you know, for cutting everything from
SS to Medicare to Welfare.

Other than that though, I guess there's nothing wrong with it.

[CharlotteVale]

18. Except in these quotes she didn't say independence, she said dignity.

Which is the same thing as saying that people on Welfare have no dignity. You claimed she used a word she didn't use in an attempt to make her not look so bad, and then you attacked me, who correctly quoted her. Very telling that you are defending a person who trashed Welfare recipients.

[Fairgo]

72. The politics of shame

Produces a seamless way to blame the victim. Only those without dignity are dependent, they deserve no better than starvation wages.

[Gene Debs]

45. Don't even. You know exactly what she was saying, and so does everybody else. You must

think everyone reading this is as stupid as Hillary Clinton thinks they are.

[eridani]

78. Calling people with no other source of income "dependent" is a disgusting thing to say

Coming from someone who is dependent on tax dollars for living at a much more affluent level.

[asuhornets]

15. Hillary Clinton nor Bill Clinton...

grew up in wealthy families-they made their own money. As a matter of fact Bill Clinton grew up poor.

[CharlotteVale]

20. Did Hillary say he went from dependence to dignity? Do tell.

[BeanMusical]

25. Hillary Clinton's childhood home:

That's quite a slum.

[Victor_c3]

38. Poor Hillary! That house hardly has any curb appeal!

It looks to me like it is a very modest 3,000+ SQFT house in an upper middle class neighborhood. That is definitely the house of a disadvantaged child :rolleyes:

I bet they didn't event have a full acre yard!

[Enthusiast]

46. A fine example of bootstrap pulling.

[BeanMusical]

47. Lol! +1

[KittyWampus]

4. Because Sanders supporters want poor people to be eternally dependent and undignified.

[DefenseLawyer]

12. Yeah that's right.

Everyone getting public assistance is lazy. They have to be forced at gunpoint to get a damn job. That's why we have such a huge deficit you know, because 75% of the taxes you pay goes to welfare payments to those lazy bums.

That's what is scary about Clinton supporters. If you think it supports your candidate you will spout some of the most vile rightwing bullshit imaginable.

[snort]

21. It's downright unsettling to see it.

And the children are the ones who suffer. How could a person intentionally take the food and warmth from a child and then spend time in an echo chamber nodding how it gave them back their dignity?

It was a disgusting and bigoted piece of legislation and never should have been supported and signed by a Democratic President (or touted by his wife).

[pinebox]

24. Ayn Rand called

She wants her personal copy of Atlas Shrugged back.

[SoapBox]

35. Ha!

[The Green Manalishi]

66. LOL

[KittyWampus]

67. You are the one apparently finding fault with wanting to end dependance.

[DonCoquixote]

73. "dependance" does not get ended

When bankers that donate to Hillary wreck the economy and businesses either outsource or just downsize. It is pretty to imply independence, but that is useless without admitting that those at the top do not want anybody to BE INDEPENDENT FROM THEM! You cannot actually work to gain independence without making the people at the top play by rules, or else they will simply smash whatever tower of freedom you built. Ask people who saved and worked all their lives only to be broke thanks to some foul up in Wall street that some pampered kid or old boy probably got a raise for.

[pinebox]

75. You're the one slinging mud

equating that Sanders supporters want people on dependence. Don't spin it, you know what you said and it's plain as day for all to see. Own it. How "Randian" of you. Complete Libertarian talking point. Would you like to me to quite your Rand Paul from Newsmax who says almost the same thing verbatim as you?

[Orsino]

30. Heh.

[retrowire]

33. it's really sad watching you try to defend such a

republican statement.

stop depending on the government and pick yourself up by your bootstraps!

seriously stop. it's not a good look.

[KittyWampus]

68. So you LOVE dependance. Does that mean you and the rest of Sanders supporters

love slavery? Since you twist crap into pretzels? No, of course not. You're just playing games.

[DefenseLawyer]

70. Only to a Republican does assistance = dependence.

Seriously, you're in a deep enough hole, just stop digging.

[NorthCarolina]

52. That sounds exactly like the GOP attitude.

Of course that was completely evident with discussions on issues like Bernie's free college plan wherein the biggest concern to Hillary supporters was NOT the greater good such a program would accomplish, but rather the fact that they did not want to be forced to pay for Trump's kids to go to the Community College of their choice.

That details EXACTLY how these folks think. You're considered a FREELOADER, or LAZY, or UNDESIREABLE if you receive public assistance, so GET A JOB GRANDMA you Social Security and Medicare FREELOADER .

[SammyWinstonJack]

63. What a crock!

[KingCharlemagne]

8. she supported Goldwater when he advocated using nuclear weapons on

Vietnamese women and children, So give her a little credit for evolving.

[KittyWampus]

9. She did when she was a child. Your hero Elizabeth Warren voted for Reagan as an adult.

[KingCharlemagne]

11. My 'hero'??? Are you smoking the same

stuff you smoked as a mapmaker?

[AlbertCat]

39. She did when she was a child.

Seventeen is a "child"?????

[jalan48]

13. "Cut it out, you moochers!"

[asuhornets]

14. "others were spouting off Republican scapegoating talking points!" = Bernie supporters n/t

[reddread]

19. not just once

didnt she spearhead welfare reform in Arkansas?
isnt that what took them into higher office?
their mean spirited neoliberalism?

[Helen Borg]

22. Nothing more filling than dignity when you are starving...

[jwirr]

23. If my state of MN had not refused to take me off welfare while

I took care of my severely handicapped child she would have ended in a very expensive institution. Forcing me to give up on my daughter was not giving me dignity. But they did not understand the situation then and she does not now. Whenever you look at the thinking of Bill and Hillary Clinton you are looking at southern policy seen in rose colored glasses.

[Fantastic Anarchist]

28. "Take this job for $7 an hour ...

...and quit pestering us with your entitlements. Besides, now you'll make too much to receive welfare, so now you can live with dignity as you work three jobs. You're living the American dream now!!!

So, take this job for $7 an hour and shut the fuck up. I got a speaking engagement to make for the other welfare queens, who just happen to make enough money to get my attention.

Yes, Mr. Diamond?"

~ Hillary Clinton

[EndElectoral]

29. It's the old Republican code for we're cutting welfare.

[AlbertCat]

31. "...but make work pay."

As long as the minimum isn't more than.... oh... $12/hour...

[Victor_c3]

36. The only reason rich people are rich is because they work harder than the rest of us

That's what the American Dream boils down to. The only thing poor people need to do is work harder and they'll be rich.

I have to agree with Hillary on this one!

(I hope I don't need to add the sarcastic smiley to this post)

[SoapBox]

37. The Blurry Hill...

From an article I just posted...

Elites usually treat social democracy with disdain, but when pressured by its broad and powerful appeal, they can reverse themselves and blur the differences between it and neoliberalism. That is part of the blurring strategy Clinton has adopted in response to Sanders’ unexpectedly strong campaign.

[Kip Humphrey]

40. I remember all those greedy, money-addicted, undignified, welfare dependents that Bill Clinton and

the republicons eliminated. USA! USA!

[SoapBox]

41. Speaking of Welfare Queens...

Koch Brothers...Walton Family...Wall Street!

Just say'n!

[Gene Debs]

42. Well, if it acts like a Republican, talks like a Republican, votes like a Republican...

[Renew Deal]

43. Does Bernie believe that Americans are ignorant?

"ignorance of the American people" - Bernie Sanders

[Fumesucker]

51. The Donald is leading the Republican field

Need I say more?

[Renew Deal]

55. Touche

[beam me up scottie]

57. Word.

It's terrifying.

[BeanMusical]

48. Kick and R

[Fumesucker]

49. K&R for dignity

[forest444]

50. "Move from dependency to dignity," said Mrs. Clinton,

as Mr. Clinton was helping corporate barons ship every available job out to the Third World.

The nerve.

[Beartracks]

53. I see a fundamental difference...

... between fighting to enact programs that can help the victims of economic inequality, and fighting to actually end economic inequality.

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[Jack Rabbit]

54. Yes, as FLOTUS she was a cheerleader for Welfare Deform

. . . and channeled Newtie the Cutie talking about moving from dependency to dignity.

Still as FLOTUS, she was also a cheerleader for NAFTA, which deprived many of the opportunity to move to dignity and forced others closer to dependency.

It's time to abandon the neoliberal model. It just doesn't work.

[rladdi]

58. i agree with that statement. Some people love living off the government, it has run in the family

for centuries. Others do want to work and get paid a fair wage, but politics is stopping that. There is a war on wages and if Trump is elected. There will be no guarantee wage. It may be just peanuts or bananas

[TBF]

64. Like she and her husband?

They've lived off the government for quite some time now. And those millions in the bank? Speaking fees and royalties that are theirs now that they've profited from being in the spotlight as government "servants".

[SammyWinstonJack]

61. Ugh. She's clueless.

[MisterP]

62. damn 47-percenters

[TBF]

65. She means in Malaysia, people, because that is

where the jobs will be when TPP goes into effect.

Update on where we are with TPP: http://www.globalpolicywatch.com/2016/01/whats-next-for-tpp-will-congress-ratify-in-2016/