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reddread

(6,896 posts)
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 01:04 PM Jan 2016

Who deserves credit for this transformational moment? SANDERS or Hillary?

If there is a legend left behind, I think it will be one of liberation and transformation thanks to the end of the Clintons' era.
the ignominy of these fading old soldier's of the DLC era is actually hard to bear. Like witnessing a real trainwreck.
the upside being that a year from now they will be as good as forgotten and not the subject of public abuse and amusement.
BUT what a spectacular crash and burn/EXIT!
Tearing down the curtains (and the brick wall behind by the time they are done).
They are undoing the Big Lie right before our eyes.
Or more accurately, they are forcing us to face the truth because of their hubris
and the sheer economic reality that has worn away the patience and sharpened the wit.
I want to thank them, someday.
this is their doing.

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Who deserves credit for this transformational moment? SANDERS or Hillary? (Original Post) reddread Jan 2016 OP
Given the populist rejection of establishment candidates from both parties, closeupready Jan 2016 #1
 

closeupready

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1. Given the populist rejection of establishment candidates from both parties,
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 01:18 PM
Jan 2016

I'm not sure if credit for the current zeitgeist can be given to either one - probably Hillary, since she represents a political state of affairs which led to the misery-amidst-plenty which we have today - NAFTA, China's Most-Favored-Nation trading status, the repeal of Glass-Stegall, 'the end of welfare as we know it', DOMA, DADT ... I could go on, but those are my thoughts, at the moment.

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