2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumHere is a brief 2008 speech by Hillary Clinton
that explains a good deal about her character:
This is how Democrats do politics. This is an excellent example of Democratic politics in action.
handmade34
(22,756 posts)I wasn't going to step outside of the Hillary group
MineralMan
(146,317 posts)I remember that from the convention, but didn't know a video was available.
It deserves to be seen. It needs to be seen. As Democrats, this is how we win elections, not through trashing other Democrats. It is just that simple.
Motown_Johnny
(22,308 posts)MineralMan
(146,317 posts)making the nomination of Obama at the convention. Candidates have differences during the campaign. If they did not, there would be no need for debates. Democratic candidates, however, rally around the nominee, once the nominee is known.
Here's a secret: Bernie Sanders will solidly endorse Hillary if she is the nominee. Hillary will solidly endorse Bernie if he is the nominee. That is how Democrats conduct Presidential races. How their supporters conduct themselves is another matter altogether.
Motown_Johnny
(22,308 posts)Every runner up always endorses the winner. If you are saying that her character is best reflected by the fact that she will do the bare minimum when enough pressure is applied, I agree.
The very fact that you must resort to this as an example of her character is very telling.
MineralMan
(146,317 posts)I'm not going to engage in this sort of thing with you. Not a chance.
Motown_Johnny
(22,308 posts)Autumn
(45,106 posts)roguevalley
(40,656 posts)good. As for the Bosnia snipe, that hit close to home. The same time she was 'dodging' snipers my baby boy actually was. I have never forgotten, nor forgiven her for that.
Autumn
(45,106 posts)Motown_Johnny
(22,308 posts)continue that side of the argument.
Autumn
(45,106 posts)over and over.
joshcryer
(62,276 posts)That she was evil and was going to support seating the MI and FL delegates, that she was going to go all scorched earth.
But nope, never happened.
cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)MineralMan
(146,317 posts)Did you not notice that?
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MineralMan
(146,317 posts)There, I'm done.
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MineralMan
(146,317 posts)Bread and Circus
(9,454 posts)I know it was one of the two.
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Bread and Circus
(9,454 posts)DefenseLawyer
(11,101 posts)You really think it would have been in her long term political interest to fight it out to the death and lose? Right. I'm sure that would have been the wise political move. Luckily her "character" stepped in and she played ball at the convention. There are plenty of examples that display good character by Secretary Clinton, but this a pretty lame example.
kristopher
(29,798 posts)DefenseLawyer
(11,101 posts)which is a perfect example of why it wasn't an act requiring great character.
leftupnorth
(886 posts)That's when I stopped trusting 'centrist' dems.
My mistrust was validated over the next decade or so. I almost left the party over the constant lack of spine, backstabbing by 'dems' like Lieberman and Nelson, and the cowardice exhibited in the face of the Bush Cabal.
In fact, I did, in spirit anyway, leave the party, even though I never bothered to change my registration.
The only thing keeping me a dem, to be totally blunt about it, is the possibility of a President Sanders.