Sanders Catches up with Hillary & Finally calls for Repeal of Hyde Amendment

[riversedge]

Wish I had seen this yesterday--should be LBN!



Tweet:
Sanders Finally Catches up with Hillary & calls for Repeal of Hyde Amendment http://www.nationofchange.org/news/2016/01/24/bernie-sanders-calls-for-repealing-the-hyde-amendment/ … #standwithPP #p2 #Hillary2016

By Bryce Covert -
January 24, 2016


http://www.nationofchange.org/news/2016/01/24/bernie-sanders-calls-for-repealing-the-hyde-amendment/

The Hyde Amendment is an obscure budget rider that bans any federal funding from covering abortion services, which means low-income women on Medicaid can’t use their plans to cover an abortion. It has also helped limit access for government employees, military personnel, those in the Peace Corps, and others. It’s become a routine piece of policy, renewed in every federal spending bill since 1976, and frequently becomes a political football, as when President Obama signed an executive order including restrictions along the lines of Hyde in the Affordable Care Act as a way to win support for the bill’s passage.

But now both frontrunners for the Democratic presidential nomination have come out against it, calling for it to be repealed. Hillary Clinton has repeatedly called for a reversal of Hyde, and now Bernie Sanders has followed suit.

On Friday, Sanders said in a statement, “Women must have full control over their reproductive health in order to have full control over their lives. We must rescind the Hyde Amendment and resist attempts by states to erect roadblocks to abortion.” Sanders has voted against the Hyde Amendment while serving in both the House and Senate, but his statement made his intentions clear to repeal it once and for all if elected. ....................



?resize=696%2C326




Cecile Richards ‏@CecileRichards 17h17 hours ago

"Women cannot succeed if they can’t make the most fundamental decisions about their lives, families, & futures." @HillaryClinton #ImWithHer

https://twitter.com/CecileRichards


Hillary for Iowa ‏@HillaryforIA Jan 23

In Grinnell, Frances said, "I want to be President too." "I'll make it easier for you," Hillary replied.
#ImWithHer







Hillary for SC ‏@HillaryforSC Jan 23

"Hillary Clinton is the only pres. candidate helping us in Flint” - Mayor Karen Weaver http://hrc.io/1ZSK7Na











Hillary for Iowa ‏@HillaryforIA Jan 18 Toledo, IA

Jackson brought Avery to see Hillary tonight. Avery was uncommitted—"but not anymore!" #HillYes #ImWithHer

[Ed Suspicious]

1. Am I having deja vu or is this the second time you've trotted out this lame thesis?

[riversedge]

13. Well if you have seen it before--you were peeping into the Hillary Group

But I added a few pics to this one. Enjoy

[beam me up scottie]

20. Oh come on! Recycled bullshit helps things grow!

Like memes...

Bernie has been voting against the amendment for decades but they won't let facts get in the way.

[MeNMyVolt]

2. Better late than never. K&R

[MoonRiver]

4. Was going to post the exact same thing!

[riversedge]

16. Great minds think alike.

Last edited Mon Jan 25, 2016, 03:07 PM - Edit history (1)

[MoonRiver]

38. Yes indeed!

[jeff47]

19. Yes, glad Clinton has finally come around.

Oh, were you thinking that Sanders never said anything on this issue before this campaign?

[beam me up scottie]

21. Indeed. I'm thrilled she's evolved, he's been against it all along. Better late than never, Hillary!

[MeNMyVolt]

24. Oh, I know he's always voted against,

but his ignoring that elephant in his single payer "plan" was noticed by many. I figured it was just another Sanders hedge. Glad he cleaned that up.

[jeff47]

27. Please quote where his plan includes Hyde amendment language.

Or are you unware that there isn't an actual Hyde amendment to repeal?

[MeNMyVolt]

28. Where did I say it did?

[jeff47]

29. It was a whole 6 minutes ago.

but his ignoring that elephant in his single payer "plan" was noticed by many.

If you forgot it in 6 minutes, please seek medical attention.

[MeNMyVolt]

33. I don't think that sentence means what you think it does.

The elephant in the room is reproductive rights, which he ignored.

Last point is yours if you want it. Don't care to discuss things with rude people.

[jeff47]

34. Reproductive care is covered in his plan. Where's the hole? (nt)

[MeNMyVolt]

36. Same answer I gave to BMUS below.

http://theslot.jezebel.com/bernie-sanders-commits-to-rescinding-the-hyde-amendment-1754723802

"Though Sanders has voted against the Hyde Amendment on numerous occasions, the single-payer health care plan he released last week made no mention of reproductive rights."

Guess I lied about "last post".

[jeff47]

39. That would be important if there was an actual Hyde amendment to repeal.

But there isn't.

For Sanders's plan to restrict reproductive rights, the plan would have to explicitly restrict reproductive rights. That's why every spending bill (except for 2009 and 2010) has required explicit Hyde amendment-like language. The restrictions are not the default state of affairs.

[beam me up scottie]

32. Your post #24, 12:20pm CST, this thread.

[MeNMyVolt]

35. See #33

Also see...
http://theslot.jezebel.com/bernie-sanders-commits-to-rescinding-the-hyde-amendment-1754723802

"MSNBC reports that Ilyse Hogue, president of NARAL, which also endorsed Clinton, questioned why Sanders’ plan left out reproductive rights. “In a political landscape this hostile to reproductive rights, words matter – as do their absence,” Hogue wrote. “If he won’t say the words now, how can we trust that he will hold the line?” Emily’s List had also said that Sanders’ health care plan treated reproductive rights as an “afterthought.”

[GeorgeGist]

40. Sanders has voted against the Hyde Amendment while serving in both the House and Senate

direct from the OP.

[NurseJackie]

3. Priorities, eh?

[William769]

5. Kick & highly recommended!

[beam me up scottie]

6. LMAO! Catching up? He's been voting against it for decades.

I love the stench of desperation in the morning!

Too bad the facts don't fit the narrative.

Bernie Sanders in 2012:

United Against the War on Women

The history of American democracy, to say the least, has been checkered. Our nation was founded at a time when people of African descent were held in bondage. After slavery was abolished, they were forced to endure legal discrimination for another 100 years.

When our country was formed, women were not just second-class citizens. They were third- or fourth-class citizens. Women couldn't vote or play a significant role in the political life of the nation. Women, in many cases, couldn't own property and were legally regarded as subservient in marriage. The educational and economic opportunities open to women were extremely limited. And, of course, women were unable to have control over their own bodies.

***

We are not returning to the days of back-room abortions, when countless women died or were maimed. The decision about abortion must remain a decision for the woman, her family and physician to make, not the government.

We are not going back to the days when women could not have full access to birth control. Incredibly, here in the year 2012, that is exactly what the Blunt Amendment, which we defeated last month in the Senate, was all about. The Blunt Amendment would have allowed any employer who provided health insurance, or any insurance company, the right to deny coverage for contraception or any other kind of procedure if the employer had a "moral" objection to it. While I am glad that we defeated this horrendous amendment, it certainly was a sad day in our country when every Republican, save one, voted for it.

We are not going back to the days of wide-scale domestic violence, even if 31 Republican men in the Senate recently voted against the reauthorization of the Violence Against Women Act because it expanded coverage to the gay community and Native Americans.

We are not going back to the days when it was legal for women to be paid less for doing the same work as men, even if the governor of Wisconsin recently signed a bill to repeal that state's pay-equity law.

Further, not only are we going to protect and expand those laws which deal directly with women's rights, we are going to vigorously defend the important laws and programs which protect all working people in our country -- women and men alike.

http://huffpost.com/us/entry/united-against-the-war-on_b_1464730.html

Maybe the tweeter needs to "catch up" on history:

http://www.ontheissues.org/social/Bernie_Sanders_Abortion.htm

Unlike Hillary Bernie never supported a ban on late term abortions, maybe that's why he has a 100% rating from NARAL.

CLINTON: My opponent is wrong. I have said many times that I can support a ban on late-term abortions, including partial-birth abortions, so long as the health and life of the mother is protected. I’ve met women who faced this heart-wrenching decision toward the end of a pregnancy. Of course it’s a horrible procedure. No one would argue with that. But if your life is at stake, if your health is at stake, if the potential for having any more children is at stake, this must be a woman’s choice.

Source: Senate debate in Manhattan , Oct 8, 2000

http://www.ontheissues.org/Cabinet/Hillary_Clinton_Abortion.htm

Bernie trusts women to make their own decisions.

[Orsino]

25. Oops. Narrative fail.

[beam me up scottie]

26. That's what happens when you get your news and ideas from the twitterverse.

[jeff47]

7. Wasn't it the Clinton supporters who were just telling us they knew how government worked?

There is no Hyde Amendment to repeal.

The original Hyde Amendment was an actual amendment to an appropriation bill. Since then, similar language has been added to every appropriation bill. But the language has to be added to every appropriations bill. It does not carry over from last year's budget.

There is nothing to repeal. Instead, we need Democrats to stop supporting putting the language into every appropriation bill. You know, like Sanders has been doing for decades (such as voting against it when it is an actual amendment.)

[NCTraveler]

10. Direct quote from Sanders on Friday.

“Women must have full control over their reproductive health in order to have full control over their lives. We must rescind the Hyde Amendment and resist attempts by states to erect roadblocks to abortion.”

[jeff47]

12. Notice he didn't use the word "repeal"?

Golly...wonder why...

[riversedge]

14. Note: Smart folks know what is going on and do not have to nic-pik but thanks for the bumps.

[jeff47]

17. Just as they did when you were pushing the "Sanders doesn't know how the SCOTUS works!!!" line.

Yet that didn't stop you from repeating it.

[NCTraveler]

15. I'm sure you are wondering.

re·scind


/rəˈsind/


verb

revoke, cancel, or repeal (a law, order, or agreement).

[jeff47]

18. Yet nothing about taking away a non-existent law.

If we're going to pretend your "Sanders doesn't know how the SCOTUS works!" line is valid over over-literal interpretation, then over-literal interpretation is valid.

If over-liberal interpretation is not valid here, then it isn't valid in your SCOTUS attack.

[NCTraveler]

22. "Sanders doesn't know how the SCOTUS works!"

That is my line? Interesting. lol

You tried to make a new definition for a word. I kindly corrected you. You are trying to make something up about me that simply isn't there.

“Women must have full control over their reproductive health in order to have full control over their lives. We must rescind the Hyde Amendment and resist attempts by states to erect roadblocks to abortion.” Sanders

I think you should send an email to his campaign. You are stating that he has no clue what he is talking about.

And just for fun.

Repeal synonyms: revoke, rescind, cancel, reverse, annul, nullify, declare null and void, quash, abolish; More

Not sure why you attempted to redefine rescind in order to make your point. These are Sanders words. You are going at everything but Sanders.

[jeff47]

23. It's a summary of an attack you supported

You tried to make a new definition for a word.

Ok, quote it. Where, exactly, do I redefine rescind to mean repeal?

And just for fun.

Repeal synonyms: revoke, rescind, cancel, reverse, annul, nullify, declare null and void, quash, abolish; More

You wouldn't be trying to make a new definition for the word "synonym" just after attacking me for "trying to make a new definition for a word", would you?

I mean, that would be pretty stunning to do exactly what you're attacking me for a whole 2 paragraphs later.

[NCTraveler]

37. I'm not even sure what you are saying here. Happy Monday. nt.

[gwheezie]

8. Single payer, Medicare for all whatever its called

Has to deal with the Hyde amendment before I would support it.

[MeNMyVolt]

31. +1. That's what I mentioned upthread.

The lack of a mention of reproductive rights in his "plan" was quite glaring, and noticed by many including PP and NARAL. Made me think he would sign a single payer bill with Hyde attached just to get his single payer. I'm glad he's now clarified his hedge.

[NCTraveler]

9. K&R. Great op!!!! nt.

[MineralMan]

11. Yay, Bernie! A good decision.

Everyone should be opposed to the Hyde Amendment.

[randys1]

30. Meanwhile, while Dems argue over who supports Women more,

?w=770



http://www3.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Tea+Party+Anti+Abortion+Activists+Rally+Capitol+DfGC6KJ8RQYl.jpg

http://www3.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Tea+Party+Anti+Abortion+Activists+Rally+Capitol+DfGC6KJ8RQYl.jpg

They actually used the word "courageous" ...

Now tell me again what the complaint here is with Bernie or Hillary?