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cali

(114,904 posts)
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 02:11 PM Jan 2016

For Sanders, Iowa is make or break

That is obviously not true for Clinton. It wouldn't be good portent for her in the general election, if she lost to him, but it wouldn't be catastrophic to her quest for the nomination.

Bernie has to either win Iowa or come within a very few points. If he's 10 points back, it's all over for him. Oh, not immediately; he won't drop out until she has it showed up, but with all the hype and expectations, he had to do very, very well in Iowa and win NH, to have a chance.

I don't have a clue what will happen in Iowa, but no result will surprise me. I do see it, however, as a different kind of test for Hillary: A test of her likability and trustworthiness v. her experience and knowledge.

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For Sanders, Iowa is make or break (Original Post) cali Jan 2016 OP
Yep, couldn't agree more. Kentonio Jan 2016 #1
He needs to win. hrmjustin Jan 2016 #2
No. If he comes within 5 points and wins decisively in NH cali Jan 2016 #4
Whistling in the dark. n/t bvf Jan 2016 #8
There is another possibility berni_mccoy Jan 2016 #3
Agreed, Bernie can't lose by much in IA if he wants to win the nomination. thereismore Jan 2016 #5
That's how it works conventionally. Wilms Jan 2016 #6
Sure, we're all just going to disappear mmonk Jan 2016 #7
yes, Iowa has huge symbolic significance for Sanders. A win or close KingCharlemagne Jan 2016 #9
You're setting that expectation Cheese Sandwich Jan 2016 #10
 

Kentonio

(4,377 posts)
1. Yep, couldn't agree more.
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 02:12 PM
Jan 2016

The time when all the energy and hard work either pays off or proves for nothing is fast approaching.

Iowa or bust! I say he's got this one!

 

berni_mccoy

(23,018 posts)
3. There is another possibility
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 02:18 PM
Jan 2016

It's close but she eeks out a small win and he wins NH with a large margin. He's still solidly in the race and she's seen to still be losing ground.

thereismore

(13,326 posts)
5. Agreed, Bernie can't lose by much in IA if he wants to win the nomination.
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 02:21 PM
Jan 2016

On the other hand, a loss in IA for Hillary would be devastating psychologically. She is totally invested there.

I am seeing a close win by Bernie. Enthusiasm is on his side. Many people are canvassing for him in very rural places.

mmonk

(52,589 posts)
7. Sure, we're all just going to disappear
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 02:22 PM
Jan 2016

like in a politician on the take's mind. Magic f*cking dust and we all disappear.

 

KingCharlemagne

(7,908 posts)
9. yes, Iowa has huge symbolic significance for Sanders. A win or close
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 02:31 PM
Jan 2016

second will prove his appeal extends beyond the regional and that one can be competitive without fatcat donations. Knock on wood!

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