In the next week, the Democratic establishment

[cali]

Will do everything in their power to stomp Sanders into the ground, alienating millions of voters. It may well work, but it's going to cost her big time. And set us up with Hillary as an extraordinarily weak nominee.

[restorefreedom]

1. no worries, cali.

its not going to work.

sanders will be the nominee

[mike_c]

59. agreed, 100 percent....

eom

[randys1]

2. No matter how nasty or ill advised the Clinton campaign might get, NOTHING could EVER

make me act in such a manner that this is the next WH

[Fumesucker]

5. That won't stop the Clinton machine from doing what they do

But of course you will blame those they alienate.

[randys1]

9. Alienate? You mean people who will take their ball and go home if they dont get their way?

I dont do that, myself, I look at what is important for people OTHER than myself.

[Fumesucker]

11. Funny you don't hold Clinton to the same standards as anonymous internet posters

[randys1]

13. What are you talking about, is Clinton's vote for prez important?

[Fumesucker]

17. She's willing to trash part of the Democratic coalition to win the nomination

I'm quite enjoying this election season, this time last year politics had become boring to me and I was checking out.

[randys1]

20. Not sure what you mean still, all I am saying is at the end of the day, you must

acknowledge the vast difference between any con and Hillary, if you cant, then you are either unwilling or unable, for whatever reason.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

38. You also have to ask yourself if you consider liberals to be the enemy.

[Ed Suspicious]

41. We're going to need a definition of "liberal" first. I think that word means different things

to different people.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

48. No kidding. Especially since Hillary says she isn't a liberal.

[randys1]

50. IDK what you are talking about. Now, what pisses me off today is Bloomberg

While Hillary is good on social justice, and good on Women and so on, to be admired even in some areas, she represents business as usual for corp America.

Bloomberg wants that, Trump wants that, Bernie doesnt.

Therefore the Bill/Donald plan to have Trump take votes away from the GOP, now needs a 3rd leg for the stool, someone to guarantee Bernie cant win, and that means Bloomberg will run interference.

I am sick of these rich people telling me we cant have healthcare and jobs and food and shelter and so on.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

51. She calls herself a "progressive" but supports the big banks and Wall street.

[guillaumeb]

7. 100% agreed. Too much at stake.

[Rilgin]

12. Well there is a solution

Change your allegiance from a candidate with unfavorable ratings that has to dissemble about large areas of her record, flips her positions often, has past votes and actions that bother the Democratic base including voting for the Iraq War and taking lots of recent personal funds from wall street and insurance companies and has a history of campaigning in a divisive and negative manner to a candidate who does not have these weaknesses.

If you really care about not electing Cruz you really should stop supporting Clinton who increases the chances of Cruz becoming president. That is what the primary season is for. After the primary it will just be a democratic candidate against a republican.

[randys1]

14. First, I support Bernie, second, in the end all I honestly care about at this point

is keeping the horrifically dangerous rightwing from more power.

I admit I would love to have Bernie's Medicare for all come to reality, but in the end I will take either.

[Rilgin]

31. My apologies

I mixed your name up with another Randy who I have seen over time as a pretty fervent Hillary supporter.

Again, my apologies. I have also read some of your past postings and have enjoyed and agreed with you.

[Ed Suspicious]

42. No, they are one and the same.

[randys1]

49. Cool...BTW, what Bloomberg is doing pisses me off. Another fucking billionaire who

wants business as usual and fears that Bernie represents actual change

[99th_Monkey]

3. Yep. We're being baited big-time to start criticizing Obama

in order to alienate as many AA voters and loyal Democrats as possible
right before Iowa, NH & SC.

[Sheepshank]

25. Bernie supporters are making this statement unabated (pun intended) lol

of course I couldn't help but respond to the idiocy in the link below...but claiming Bernie supporters are being baited into making andot Obama statements is ridiculous. How about some responsibility?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1063160

[99th_Monkey]

52. Your post only makes my point. Thank you.

It does make me sad that Obama appears to be going back on his word,
when he said he'd not be making endorsements in the primary.. or
I thought he said that... oh wait. He did.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/obama-not-endorse-candidate-democratic-primary-article-1.2491551

[Sheepshank]

53. and Obama still hasn't endorsed anyone n/t

[99th_Monkey]

54. Well, calling Bernie a "bright, shiny object" is a pretty caustic thing to say about a candidate

and if you don't call this an endorsement, I don't know what it is:
“Hillary is a good, smart, tough person who cares deeply about this country, and she has been in the public eye for a long time and in a culture in which new is always better. And, you know, you're always looking at the bright, shiny object that people don't, haven't seen before,” Obama said. “That's a disadvantage to her."

[Sheepshank]

55. Obama's last 5 words in your quote throws out your CT that this was any sort of endorsement.

but in the heat of an argument, folks tend to hear and see what they want to hear and see.

[99th_Monkey]

56. Actually an endorsement is what I DON'T want to see, but it looks a lot like one.

so your comment is again off the mark.

[Punkingal]

4. Yes they will.

I hope it backfires big time.

[roguevalley]

6. he's beating her in polls in alaska by 14 points. the world is truly upside down. :D

[Cali_Democrat]

8. How exactly will the "Democratic establishment" stomp Sanders into the ground in the next week?

Do you have any more details on this alleged stomping that's about to take place?

[cali]

15. Doing what they've been doing only amping it up even more

[jillan]

10. The funny thing is - the more they attack Bernie - the more.....

MONEY his campaign brings in.

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/01/hillary-clinton-bernie-sanders-health-care-217789

https://www.rt.com/usa/328961-clinton-sanders-attack-backfires/

[bigtree]

16. all but two members of the progressive caucus support Hillary over Sanders

..she's received endorsements from left and right of the political spectrum among the Democratic establishment in Washington. Those folks will, naturally defend their choice in this primary.

The Sanders campaign has opened up their own lines of attacks against Clinton and her supporters, making like that Hillary support is the 'establishment' we should be fighting against. They think they can maintain their high ground with these defenses, but they just look, from the outside, like one side of a typical political brawl.

Maybe they can get back to defining where their own campaigns stand on the issues and leave all of the dubious attacks on the 'establishment' they've both been part and parcel of for decades for the real enemies of progressive change among the republican field.

[Autumn]

18. They will reap what they sow.

[LiberalArkie]

35. I feel that the best thing that Clinton could do is to start praising Bernie because overtime they

say anything bad, Bernies money and support grows.

[asuhornets]

57. This statement has to be a JOKE..

We are in a presidential campaign and I think she should take off the kid gloves. When she does, Bernie supporters heads are going to explode. So I ask you, if Bernie can't handle criticism from his opponents, will he be able to handle the right-wing multi-million dollar funded apparatus he will definitely experience if he is the "Democratic" nominee. I think not.

[KittyWampus]

19. Poor little Bernie. Leave Bernie alone! And Sanders is not only weak-

he has never proven his ability to withstand any media attacks.

[Kentonio]

24. 'any media attacks'?

You might want to go research his electoral history a little better,

[cali]

26. No, just don't lie and smear,but why ask the impossible of hilly

and pals? And hill is the one constantly whining away about what a victim she is. So full of... it.

[pangaia]

30. You really must be joking.

But, of course you are not.

Your ignorance of Bernie Sanders history precedes you.

[ieoeja]

32. I would look forward to most Hillary supporters joining the Bernie team if she loses.

But there are others in whose tears I would bathe.

[NCTraveler]

21. And this progressive is going to help.

So exciting and just a week out from the first primary.

You are going to claim Clinton is a weak nominee no matter what. That's what makes this so amusing.

[tecelote]

22. America loves the underdog.

Especially the one fighting on their side against the mighty and all powerful oligarchy.

Bernie grows stronger with every attack.

Bring it on!

America, not the establishment, is going to elect Bernie.

Proud to a part of it.

[Sheepshank]

23. In other words the Democrats will coalesce around their favored candidate

and many bitter Bernie supporters will call it everything except the "will of the people"

Whatev...calling it in advance doesn't make it any more than incorrect hype.

[cali]

27. More smears and lies and sleaze from slimeballs like Hillary's good pal brock

[workinclasszero]

28. Aww Poor Bernie...I'm getting all weepy now...

I can't believe all the people on DU whining about the political process for winning a primary!

WTH should we just hand the nomination over to Bernie right now and flush the democratic process altogether?

I hate to see the poor fellow actually have to work for it.

Again it shows me that Bernie is probably not up to the task of being POTUS.

You all think Hillary has been hard on Bernie? LOfreakinL! The republicans would rip him a new ***hole!

And all I hear is crying 24/7 on DU about the mean establishment and Hillary...SOB....

If he cannot convince millions of democratic voters to back him, he doesn't deserve the job, period!

[jomin41]

34. I think millions already do!

And that's just the ones who contribute. lol

[pangaia]

29. Your first two sentences are true.

I hope, I hope, I hope your third sentence is not.

[litlbilly]

33. It's not gonna work cali, not this time, trust me, my gut is always right.

[SoapBox]

36. Fingers and toes crossed!

Go Bernie and Berners!

[riversedge]

37. well now. Sanders stomping himself will be a sight to see

[onecaliberal]

39. She's now stumping for tRump. She will NOT win against him.

[Vincardog]

40. Hillary's camaing is about maitaining the Status Quo. If they lose the RW is happy. If they win the

The RW is not harmed. The only thing they care about is stopping the people's movement/Bernie.

I don't want them to be happy.

[zeemike]

43. If Hillary is the nominee they can't lose

No mater how the vote comes out.
And that is why the MSM ignored Bernie and promoted Hillary claiming she won the debate even though people saw it differently.

The only thing that really matters is who is the democratic nominee...the clown car is to distract...and to make liberals so fearful that the status quo seems like a win.

[Vincardog]

44. EGGZZZZactly

[TIME TO PANIC]

47. Bingo!

[George II]

45. No they won't. Period. Again, the words of a worried Sanders support who is all but...

...admitting defeat.

Sanders probably will lose in Iowa for several reasons, most notably the geography of his support in Iowa - much of it is concentrated in a few college towns. Another is that he appeals to a very very small group of Democratic voters and his focus in this campaign has been very narrow, almost a single-issue campaign.

One reason will NOT be that there's a "plot against him", the "establishment will stomp" Sanders, etc.

[Betty Karlson]

46. Sacrificing the GE to win the primaries. It's staggering.

But it may still not work - it may just spell the end of Third Way: a most ignominious end.

[Odin2005]

58. They are desperate to manufacture another "Dean Scream".

I think this town hall is a trap.