2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumA remarkably moving thing happened at a Bernie Sanders rally today in Iowa
Bernie Sanders did a town hall event Monday morning in Iowa Falls, Iowa. He asked the crowd for testimonials about the difficulties of sustaining a life off of $12,000 a year.
What happened next is both hard to watch/listen to and important. A woman is called on and she emotionally tells the story of her life -- minimum wage jobs despite a degree, on disability and living with her parents. Here's a snippet of what she said:
Its so hard to do anything to pay your bills, youre ashamed all the time...when you cant buy presents for your children its really really really hard and I work 3, 4, 5 jobs sometimes, always minimum wage, I have a degree, divorced and its just Im waiting for disability to come through so my parents have to support me its just hard.
Sanders thanked her and the crowd applauded. Then he said this: "It is not easy for people to stand up and say that but the truth is that until millions of people who are experiencing what youre experiencing do say that we dont make change."
(snip)
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/01/25/a-remarkably-moving-thing-happened-at-a-bernie-sanders-rally-today-in-iowa/
A video is on the link.
cali
(114,904 posts)Bernie wants a dictatorship of the non-moneyed. Really.
Gore1FL
(21,132 posts)So their concern is that 99%+ will rule by will? In some places of the world, they call that sort of dictatorship, dare I say it? "Democracy."
I'm shivering at the thought!
mountain grammy
(26,623 posts)cali
(114,904 posts)Read my thread on Hillary's speaking gigs.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)Yeah, Ive read posts on here about people "wanting free stuff" that look like they came right out of scribbled pages in grover norquist's nightstand.
Unbelievable, and then they have the temerity to bleat about how they "dont recognize this place" because everyone isnt lining up to support the candidate they're ordering us to.
tecelote
(5,122 posts)one hippy looking guy playing and the system and eating lobster on food stamps.
The Republicans want to take aid away from all of the single mothers just so they are sure that dirty hippy doesn't get his free lobster.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)I want my free lobster!
Eating lobster on food stamps sounds a bit logistically tricky, though. Must be a very small lobster.
tecelote
(5,122 posts)But, I'm referring to a Fox News segment where they found a "hippy looking" guy that said he was able to get lobster on food stamps.
They used it for a week to show why we need to reign in entitlements.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)Buying fancy vodka.
Same shit, different year.
KentuckyWoman
(6,685 posts)assumed every black person had a Cadillac they bought with "my tax money".
cannabis_flower
(3,764 posts)But not all month. Basically you get a certain amount for the month and that's it. If you spend it all the first week, you will be eating beans and rice the rest of the month.
DaGimpster
(130 posts)Crawfish.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)"you ate SAND?"
"we ate sand."
Ed Suspicious
(8,879 posts)his detractors is that they want more say than me. They think they earned it. They think their fortunes, their good fortune, proves they're good.
Hoppy
(3,595 posts)The problem is that most people conceive of a dictatorship as storm troopers in your town square, show your papers everywhere.... stuff like in the WW II movies.
Dictate means to talk to... the 1% talk to Congress. You don't. I don't.
We may try, but Congress ain't gonna listen to the likes of us.
sadoldgirl
(3,431 posts)there is only one wish all of us should share:
We need drastic changes in this country, and
not incrimentalism.
appalachiablue
(41,144 posts)how the candidates could help a person like this, disabled and living on 10K. Bill said HC has the experience, can fix it, usw. One of the poorest responses I've ever seen, esp. by a 'progressive'.
kenfrequed
(7,865 posts)To me this is clear evidence that De Blasio doesn't really believe in Hillary at all and has been pressured into endorsing her.
dorkzilla
(5,141 posts)You know how they are with quid pro quo...submit or get on their "enemies" list.
MgtPA
(1,022 posts)That poor woman...
Uncle Joe
(58,365 posts)Meanwhile, in a separate interview Sunday with CBS Sunday Morning, Obama said he wouldnt run for a third term even if he could. He said the presidency takes a toll on family life, and the office "should be continually renewed by new energy and new ideas."
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/01/25/obama-defends-clinton-likens-sanders-to-bright-shiny-object.html
I don't see Hillary as having either.
MgtPA
(1,022 posts)CaliforniaPeggy
(149,629 posts)senz
(11,945 posts)artislife
(9,497 posts)and none of the other candidates on both sides satisfy me in their responses to it. They either say it is too much, or that we shouldn't give to people in need. O'Malley is the closest to Bernie but I know what h and the repubs want.
Makes me so mad.
onecaliberal
(32,863 posts)That's why I am voting for Bernie, and shame on every one whose comfortable and torched the ladder they climbed behind them. I thought we were supposed to be democrats.
Uncle Joe
(58,365 posts)Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)The pundits on TV claim the Democrats don't want things to change that much so they're going to vote for the status quo.
mmonk
(52,589 posts)Yep, fighting for a living wage isn't pragmatic.
TIME TO PANIC
(1,894 posts)Segami
(14,923 posts)Uncle Joe
(58,365 posts)Segami
(14,923 posts)Kick it up!
Duval
(4,280 posts)navarth
(5,927 posts)That poor girl. If I had been sitting next to her she would definitely had a hug. It's a national disgrace that she should have to deal with that.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)Heartbreaking.
Enough.
berni_mccoy
(23,018 posts)Hell YES I'M ANGRY! Why should the wealthiest country on the planet have anyone struggling like this?! It is unacceptable, unAmerican and for those who are religious, unGODLY!
It Is TIME FOR A REVOLUTION! It is time to fight for a LIVABLE WAGE. It is TIME TO FIGHT FOR SOCIAL SECURITY!
I'm so sick and tired of the compromises of the Democratic Party. I'm voting for Sanders BECAUSE FUCK THIS SHIT!
mmonk
(52,589 posts)nolabear
(41,986 posts)I know, working for change helps all the hers, but still, her life could have been changed considerably if all those people had given her a bit of money or some contacts to resources or a decent paying job. I wonder if anyone did that.
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)You patch work jobs together...I just had one and had the ability to work online from home and rent out rooms. I was in Northern California and Craig's List had just started and there were jobs on there I could do, as I had a good Resume.
Other than that, and as my ex-husband hoped, I would not have been able to care for my son. Even as it was, he used my low income against me and ultimately...after $30,000 in legal fees from his parents and the Child Welfare folks just gave up...got 1/2 time...even though he put him in child care while I was at home.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)Dont discount their suffering!
http://www.urbanbaby.com/topics/55010785
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)sarcasm, no?
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)If you can believe it.
http://jezebel.com/5947300/life-isnt-fair-for-wealthy-parents-says-wealthy-mom
Hell, Ive seen people make similar statements HERE with no apparent sense of irony. "You just dont understand, darling, simply everyone MUST send their kids to exclusive expensive schools in manhattan, and the necessary help is so hard to find so of course it is expensive."
Like, okay, we're relatively fortunate over here (but way below dirt poor for Manahattan, apparently) and as such i would never in a bajillion years think to piss and moan about how rough we have it, because of the "full time domestic help we cant afford" or the private schools we can't swing. We have food on the table, and that alone is pretty fucking fortunate in today's America.
And I sure as shit havent forgotten the minimum wage jobs Ive worked in my life, and I never stopped advocating that people who work for minimum wage deserve to be paid a LIVABLE one.
This is just another example of the massively out of touch bubble some people are existing in, and we see a lot of it, even here.
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)mountain grammy
(26,623 posts)one has COPD. She could work if she gets her medicine, but can't afford the medicine when she's working. She had to quit her full time job to qualify for Medicaid so she could get the $600/month medicine. If she had access to medicine and health care, she could work, but can't have access unless she stops working...
My other friend, pretty much the same story. Ain't that great, America?
DaGimpster
(130 posts)Getting on disability is an incredibly lengthy and frustrating process. Suffice it to say, my wife first applied in 2009 (cancer diagnosis) and we didn't any assistance until 2011 after 3 denials. During that period we lost our house and what savings we did have.
My best advice, as much as I hate to say it, is lawyer up if disability strikes you.
mountain grammy
(26,623 posts)How awful for you and your wife. I hope her health is improving and things are better.
It's a terrible that Americans have to lose it all just because of an illness or accident. We are all so vulnerable.
DaGimpster
(130 posts)Also, the lawyer will be covered upon successful SSDI admission.
I am happy to say that after two chemotherapy regimens and a stem cell (BMT) transplant, she has been in remission since mid 2012. The ACA fixed a number of things that nailed us so hard, but I'd like to continue with advancing the state of our nations healthcare.
mountain grammy
(26,623 posts)and yes, the ACA is an advance that we need to build on.
senz
(11,945 posts)Everyone needs to tell their own truth. The media doesn't show these people except as objects of pity or censure.
SoapBox
(18,791 posts)CharlotteVale
(2,717 posts)Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)Maybe that will force some people to finally hop aboard the clue train.
SoapBox
(18,791 posts)and in a post earlier today, reminding us of back in the day when SHILL wanted the Welfare Queens to get some DIGNITY by getting a job.
Well...people do have jobs...minimum wage, part time, temp/no benefits...and guess what SHILL, they can't even afford to live.
My heart goes out to people like this gal...not to SHILL.
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