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snagglepuss

(12,704 posts)
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 05:04 PM Jan 2016

The Town Hall revels the conniving depths of Camp Weathervane

No surprise that Clinton has the advantageous position of being the closer in tonight's Town Hall.

But what is a surprise is that she and O'Malley won't be sharing the stage with Bernie. Nope. According to DemocratSinceBirth those two will be sitting somewhere else which gives both of them time to craft rebuttals to Bernie. Of course Bernie won't be extended that courtesy.

They could have run three concurrent town halls, taping two of them and running the first live.

But that wouldn't be advantageous to a disingenuous pol like Hillary.



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The Town Hall revels the conniving depths of Camp Weathervane (Original Post) snagglepuss Jan 2016 OP
The blowback will be profound Fumesucker Jan 2016 #1
You sure? It appears Camp Unicorn is upset with the format. nt Cali_Democrat Jan 2016 #31
It seems you agree it's a setup Fumesucker Jan 2016 #32
I don't think it's a setup at all. Cali_Democrat Jan 2016 #33
Whatever happened to ladies first? nt nc4bo Jan 2016 #2
I have a solution. DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2016 #3
Easier solution...let then all on stage together and actually talk to each other Armstead Jan 2016 #8
DINO-Debbie would prefer everybody to stop obsessing about her shenanigans, Betty Karlson Jan 2016 #15
That would be ideal. If this were to happen I'd delete my OP. snagglepuss Jan 2016 #11
And if she'd gone first madamesilverspurs Jan 2016 #4
madame, what do you think of my solution? DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2016 #5
No problem with it. madamesilverspurs Jan 2016 #17
Except that Bernie madokie Jan 2016 #21
Hillary Clinton stole Pee Wee's bike KingFlorez Jan 2016 #6
How old are you? I'll be disappointed if its over 18 Armstead Jan 2016 #10
Old enough to see through nonsense KingFlorez Jan 2016 #12
It might be helpful to express your keen observations in a manner that befits your wisdom then Armstead Jan 2016 #14
More like, you dispense nonsense, king cali Jan 2016 #35
I think I'd rather go first. DefenseLawyer Jan 2016 #7
I think I agree. It's not like Bernie is going to say anything terribly surprising. He's stayed on Ed Suspicious Jan 2016 #29
I'm mixed on this. Sure HRC gets to bat cleanup, but SBS & Mom set the audience's narrative. TheBlackAdder Jan 2016 #9
There is truth in what you say. The question is who is MOM snagglepuss Jan 2016 #16
Thanks, you reminded me to put "weathervane" in my trashcan. nt stevenleser Jan 2016 #13
....and in your heart virtualobserver Jan 2016 #26
It's already there Fumesucker Jan 2016 #28
The weathervane is strong in that one. Ed Suspicious Jan 2016 #30
Yup, sure is Art_from_Ark Jan 2016 #36
Fine with me. People in the eastern time zone will be asleep by the time she comes up to bat corkhead Jan 2016 #18
How dare they pick someone to go first! hrmjustin Jan 2016 #19
Btw you are in camp conspircacy! hrmjustin Jan 2016 #20
Being the "closer" means she can spout bullshit that neither Bernie or Martin O'Malley can counter. cherokeeprogressive Jan 2016 #22
Exactly.. However the optics are so bad. It will be obvious to everyone but her snagglepuss Jan 2016 #24
your camp weathervane shtick is old taught_me_patience Jan 2016 #23
Those supporting Camp Unicorn would say ANY position would benefit Clinton. KittyWampus Jan 2016 #25
Hillary would have the advantage because she is the best qualified. Thinkingabout Jan 2016 #34
How did they decide who would go first? People always remember the last word. ViseGrip Jan 2016 #27

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
1. The blowback will be profound
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 05:07 PM
Jan 2016

This is going to be awesome, Camp Weathervane is about to fricassee themselves again.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
3. I have a solution.
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 05:17 PM
Jan 2016

Just put the candidates in separate rooms without tvs or cellphones and not allow them to leave.

Drake University, where the event will be held, can put a portable commode in the room with them if they have to relieve themselves.


Problem solved!

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
8. Easier solution...let then all on stage together and actually talk to each other
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 05:25 PM
Jan 2016

But I guess that would be too much like a debate.....and we all know that debates are forbidden unless sanctioned by the Clinton campaign....erm, the DNC

 

Betty Karlson

(7,231 posts)
15. DINO-Debbie would prefer everybody to stop obsessing about her shenanigans,
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 05:36 PM
Jan 2016

so get with the program and vote for the coronation OR ELSE!

madamesilverspurs

(15,805 posts)
4. And if she'd gone first
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 05:17 PM
Jan 2016

the accusation would be that the other two would have to spend their time commenting on her statements rather than promoting their own.


This is a non-issue.

madamesilverspurs

(15,805 posts)
17. No problem with it.
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 06:03 PM
Jan 2016

That said, I honestly don't think DSW or anyone else can be faulted here. Given the incredible levels of acrimony with its constant drumbeat of conspiratorial suspicion, it's doubtful that any scenario would be agreeable across the board. We need to learn to air our differences without descending into GOPlike behavior in the process.

 

DefenseLawyer

(11,101 posts)
7. I think I'd rather go first.
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 05:24 PM
Jan 2016

I'll assume that more people will be tuned in and paying attention at the beginning than at the end. I could be wrong, and I have no doubt that the event was structured to give Clinton some perceived advantage, but I'm not sure this gives her a leg up.

Ed Suspicious

(8,879 posts)
29. I think I agree. It's not like Bernie is going to say anything terribly surprising. He's stayed on
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 07:33 PM
Jan 2016

his message for the better part of a year now. I think Bernie will be just fine kicking things off.

TheBlackAdder

(28,209 posts)
9. I'm mixed on this. Sure HRC gets to bat cleanup, but SBS & Mom set the audience's narrative.
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 05:25 PM
Jan 2016

.


I'm not sure if going last is the best approach. It is, if soeone is on the defensive, but by having SBS and MoM go first, the audience will compare what is spoken by the previous candidates to what the current on is saying. The gap between SBS and HRC, by placing MoM in the middle, seems more engineered. HRC does not have to directly follow that discourse.


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snagglepuss

(12,704 posts)
16. There is truth in what you say. The question is who is MOM
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 05:50 PM
Jan 2016

going after? Is he going to help Hillary by attacking Bernie in hope of attracting Bernie supporters or is he going to attack Hillary which means Hillary will then have to defend herself on two fronts?

I think you're observative that MOM was placed second to give Hillary distance from Bernie is right on the mark.

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
19. How dare they pick someone to go first!
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 06:59 PM
Jan 2016

Who the hell thought of this tragic idea of letting someone go first?

It has to be a conspiracy!

 

cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
22. Being the "closer" means she can spout bullshit that neither Bernie or Martin O'Malley can counter.
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 07:07 PM
Jan 2016

Quelle surprise.

snagglepuss

(12,704 posts)
24. Exactly.. However the optics are so bad. It will be obvious to everyone but her
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 07:25 PM
Jan 2016

a die-hard supporters that she has been given a tremendous and unfair advantage.

 

taught_me_patience

(5,477 posts)
23. your camp weathervane shtick is old
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 07:23 PM
Jan 2016

About as old as"libtard" and" obummer". I can't take anybody who trots out these stupid labels seriously.

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
25. Those supporting Camp Unicorn would say ANY position would benefit Clinton.
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 07:27 PM
Jan 2016

The continual whining and bogus claims of victimhood never freaking end.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
34. Hillary would have the advantage because she is the best qualified.
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 07:55 PM
Jan 2016

It has been the same in the debates.

 

ViseGrip

(3,133 posts)
27. How did they decide who would go first? People always remember the last word.
Mon Jan 25, 2016, 07:31 PM
Jan 2016

another reason, her UNTRUSTWORTHINESS, AND HER CONTINUED BAD BEHAVIOR, FROM BILL TO CHELSEA, I WILL NEVER VOTE FOR HER.

And people can't see the debate who don't have cable anyway. How undemocratic of them. And more democratic of the republican to make every debate viewable in some way, LIVE.


such B.S. from the democratic party, and DWS is still there???????

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