2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumAnyone who doesn't support the Dem nominee is insane and might as well go work for The Trump.
Sitting out because your candidate didn't get nominated is insane because it will only help the insane party's candidate win. Plain and simple. I will support the nominee. So will Bernie (who has repeatedly said so), and so will Hillary. So will Martin O'Malley. So will Obama. Simple as that. Either support the Dem nominee, or go join The Trump's campaign.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)John Poet
(2,510 posts)how is that any better than the foreign policy that the Republicans will be offering?
I'm not going to promise at this juncture,
that I will turn out to vote for George W. Bush's sister.
For the Democrats to nominate a NeoConservative "is INSANE",
and the PARTY should be ashamed if that happens.
gollygee
(22,336 posts)Abortion rights, voting rights, etc.
I will vote for Sanders in the primary, but if Clinton gets the nomination, damn straight I'll vote for her in the general.
Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)by not reining in the Big Banks and Big Business? Or if we're in so many wars that our children will be drafted?
I agree she's fine on social/civil issues like abortion and voting rights, but she's abysmal on foreign policy and the economy.
gollygee
(22,336 posts)So I vote yes, it will matter.
Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)I guess I'll just have to go with my conscience.
drray23
(7,633 posts)I tend to prefer Hillary but I would be perfectly happy if Bernie Sanders or Martin O'Malley were the nominees. Either one of them beats the GOP hands down when it comes to values. I think either one would also win the general.
RKP5637
(67,110 posts)vote for the republican. Staying home and peeing ones pants over the nominee might feel good, but it does absolutely nothing to keep an R out of the WH in 2016. And "if" an R wins in 2016, there's going to be a whole hell of a lot more grief than not having ones preferred dem candidate win. I lean toward Bernie, but I would have absolutly no difficulty with any one of the 3 dems winning the WH in 2016.
DFW
(54,403 posts)What do you think this is, 2006?
doc03
(35,344 posts)longship
(40,416 posts)This Bernie supporter was banned from the Bernie group by the delusional fools there who think it is okay for their members to violate the DU TOS on this issue. Skinner has clearly said that it is never appropriate to advocate against voting for the Democratic nominee. When one encourages other DUers to not vote for the nominee, that is never acceptable here.
However, the idiots in the Bernie group ban one of their own for supporting DU rules.
Would I have banned Manny? If he refused to self-delete his post, yes I would have. But I would have given him a chance to make amends first.
Skinner was very clear about the line of demarcation.
That is why I think the candidate safe havens serve absolutely no purpose except to stir the pot and make DU suck more.
GD.P is not much better. But at least one is given free rein. Too bad much of it is still rubbish.
I will be voting for Bernie in the MI primary. I will work for and vote for whoever gets the nomination in November.
Apparently that upsets too many in the Bernie group.
DFW
(54,403 posts)I used to reply to posts on the main page, without looking from what group they were. All of a sudden, I got banned from the Bernie group by with a nasty message from self-righteous Guardian of their gates, and I hadn't even noticed that I had posted there. But I don't blame Bernie for unpleasant people that support him any more than I blame Hillary for unpleasant people who support her. Even met Lanny Davis? First class asshole. But he's not running for anything. Bernie said months ago that some people who support him would end up doing things he'd have to disavow, and he was spot on. Don't stop supporting him just because of some lamebrain on DU. I'm still undecided, but I won't cross Bernie off just because of some lightweight supporters of his on DU. I say the same about Hillary, for that matter. The choice is about so much more than that.
longship
(40,416 posts)But the thugs in the Bernie Sanders group deserve no respect whatsoever. They are jerks.
I am for Bernie in the primary. If he loses the nomination I will support the nominee, in that case probably Hillary Clinton. The Bernie group hates that, too. I think they'd rather have Trump as president than Hillary Clinton. But then again, they are a bunch of jerks.
DFW
(54,403 posts)No wonder they banned you
longship
(40,416 posts)Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)Where the rubber meets the road, of course, is when your preferred candidate DOESN'T win. It's plenty easy for Hillary supporters to go on about loyalty pledges when she's way up in the polls.
I'll support her if she's the nominee, I've figured from the get-go she probably would be.
If she's not, though, I expect it will get mighty interesting- or at least quiet- among certain corners around here.
bigwillq
(72,790 posts)Gothmog
(145,293 posts)cali
(114,904 posts)I'll vote for her but it will be a vote against whoever is the repuke nominee. Better a corrupt dem than a batshit crazy repuke. And it has zip to do with my support for Bernie.
angstlessk
(11,862 posts)I favor Bernie, but will vote Democratic no matter what!
Splinter Cell
(703 posts)However I won't vote for Hillary. If you can't deal with that, that's tough shift. I value my vote. It must be earned.