2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumThere is a scenario that Hillary gets rolled in the first four contests (IA, NH, NV, SC)
2/4 IA: Hillary could well lose IA. If it's close, the Sanders supporters are more enthusiastic and likely more persuasive to the O'Malley supporters giving him a small victory (1-3 points).
2/9 NH: Go to NH where Bernie has a significant advantage plus momentum from IA. It's impossible to predict what independents do, but if they lift Sanders for whatever reason, it solidifies a moderate victory (5-9 points).
2/20 NV: 2008 all over again. Caucus ends up posing trouble for Hillary. Sanders wins a tiny victory or even (gasp) a tie. Inconclusive result keeps Sanders going.
2/27 SC: Open primary and Trump is dominating the republican race. No debate in 16 days. Race tightens based on Sanders mo. Republican mischief makers put Bernie over the top with a small victory (0.1-3 points). (Don't take my mischief maker comment as an attack. It is not in any way.)
Now we're 3 days from mini-Super Tuesday (SEC primary) and Hillary is shut out. She will get some wins that day (probably Arkansas and Oklahoma at minimum). Bernie will get some too (VT, maybe Massachusetts).
That's how Hillary gets rolled and the party won't be able to do much about it.
Jarqui
(10,130 posts)Same pollster CBS/YouGov
11/15 - 11/19 Clinton +47
12/14 - 12/17 Clinton +36
1/17 - 1/21 Clinton +22
Credibly in the last two months, Sanders has narrow the gap by 25 points. That's pretty darn good. Obama closed about 28 pts in the last month but SC has a large black population and Bernie is the wrong color to expect as much as Obama from the blacks. If Bernie wins or makes Iowa close and wins NH as expected, he'll do well and cut that gap but I doubt he can get all 22 pts for a win.
I do feel Nevada is a sleeper no one is talking about and Bernie might steal that or get close.
Renew Deal
(81,871 posts)And it's possible the race will be very different by then. Who knows. Maybe Bernie is running against Biden at that point.
Jarqui
(10,130 posts)because the deadline for getting into the primaries has already passed for 50% of the delegates available by vote. By SC primary, it's closer to 67% of primary delegates (% of delegates acquired by voting - not including the super delegates). That's a massive number of delegates to take a pass on and still have a chance to win => a win is virtually impossbile
Renew Deal
(81,871 posts)That's possible using Super-Delegates
Jarqui
(10,130 posts)would be the best way to do that, wouldn't it?
Biden would have no chance running against Hillary and Bernie. Folks would smell what is up with his late entry - the establishment trying to steal an election from an honest candidate and you'd drive a bunch of folks on the fence Bernie's way in revolt.
Their best chance is to have Hillary keep it close and then try with Super delegates. But if they do that - use Super delegates to thwart Bernie's primary election, the GOP candidate will win the general election. You'll turn Democrats off the process for a generation because you're hijacking the will of the people.
malokvale77
(4,879 posts)That will bring Hillary to spew her "assassination" dialog.