Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search
 

cali

(114,904 posts)
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 02:41 PM Jan 2016

Why Trayvon Martin’s family attorney is endorsing Bernie Sanders

Another prominent African-American woman is feeling the Bern.

Natalie Jackson, the civil rights attorney who represented the family of Trayvon Martin alongside Benjamin Crump during the George Zimmerman trial, is endorsing presidential candidate Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt).

She joins former Ohio state senator Nina Turner in a small but growing number of black women who are throwing their support behind the senator in hopes they can begin shifting African-American support away from former Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton. (Trayvon Martin’s mother, Sybrina Fulton, endorsed Clinton earlier this month.) Black women outvoted every other racial and gender demographic in 2008 and 2012, making them one of the most important voting groups in the 2016 election; they overwhelmingly supported President Barack Obama in both elections. Jackson hopes she can help galvanize similar support for Sanders.

<snip>

In an exclusive interview with Fusion, Jackson said those polls don’t discourage her. She told me Sanders is the only candidate with the political will to dismantle the structural racism that empowers cops to kill African-Americans with impunity, and to create the kinds of economic policies needed to help pull them out of poverty.


<snip>

http://fusion.net/story/259561/trayvon-martin-family-attorney-natalie-jackson-endorses-bernie-sanders/

135 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Why Trayvon Martin’s family attorney is endorsing Bernie Sanders (Original Post) cali Jan 2016 OP
Trayvon Martin's mom endorses Hillary: Cali_Democrat Jan 2016 #1
I'm sorry SheenaR Jan 2016 #9
And JTFrog Jan 2016 #18
It's not forbidden SheenaR Jan 2016 #41
That's how it should be here too. beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #44
Why thank you Beam Me Up Scottie :-) n/t SheenaR Jan 2016 #50
Keep up the good work and don't let others silence you. beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #51
That poster was the one trying to do the silencing. JTFrog Jan 2016 #115
Trying to one-up Natalie by bringing up Sybrina was uncalled for and completely irrelevant. beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #116
Yea, again, so crazy to bring up Trayvon's mother in a thread about Trayvon's attorney. JTFrog Jan 2016 #117
No, apparently an AA endorsement for Bernie didn't sit well with some folks at all. beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #118
Yeah, you keep spinning that yarn. JTFrog Jan 2016 #119
The very first post in this thread proves it's not a yarn. beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #122
I thought she'd gone Hillary although never too late to change her mind PatrynXX Jan 2016 #62
This endorsement is from the attorney for Trayvon Martin's mother. JDPriestly Jan 2016 #65
. one_voice Jan 2016 #30
Cute n/t SheenaR Jan 2016 #42
Trayvon's mother has more sway than the attorney. Dawson Leery Jan 2016 #71
Why are you pitting Trayvon's mother against her attorney??? senz Jan 2016 #89
Her endorsement carries so much more weight. Along with the endorsements of Gwen Carr, lunamagica Jan 2016 #13
The Trayvon Martin family attorney sounds VERY knowledgable. senz Jan 2016 #20
Really? farleftlib Jan 2016 #22
Because her loss is so inmense. lunamagica Jan 2016 #29
No doubt about that whatsoever. farleftlib Jan 2016 #31
It is a ig deal, but I believe her carries more weight, esp with parents who worry lunamagica Jan 2016 #74
But her knowledge of what needs to be changed and how difficult it will be to change it is JDPriestly Jan 2016 #67
He could very well be politically motivated, looking at what he can get out of it lunamagica Jan 2016 #73
You didn't even read the OP. The lawyer is a SHE, not a HE farleftlib Jan 2016 #77
The person we're talking about is a "she." senz Jan 2016 #79
She gets endorsements from Democrats who are hitching their wagon to the star they think JDPriestly Jan 2016 #85
lol a desperate attempt to change the subject. "LOOK !! OVER HERE!! m-lekktor Jan 2016 #46
Nailed it. beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #48
But didn't Jonathan Chait say the only thing Bernie could do was income inquality? Jarqui Jan 2016 #2
Who gives a flying fig who Travon Martin's attorney is endorsing? politicaljunkie41910 Jan 2016 #3
Natalie is a fairly unusual given name for a man Fumesucker Jan 2016 #7
Well, now that template is going to need a rework. ScreamingMeemie Jan 2016 #8
Well, So Is Tiffany... My Neighbor's Name Is Tiffany And ChiciB1 Jan 2016 #36
The attorney mentioned in the OP is named Natalie? Fumesucker Jan 2016 #37
Yeah, Reading Further I Got It... I Don't Watch MSNBC So Didn't ChiciB1 Jan 2016 #39
ITA. I saw him too. He had no idea about anything. Truly pathetic lunamagica Jan 2016 #10
Is this the guy you saw? cause that's who the thread is about azurnoir Jan 2016 #23
No, that's not the guy I saw lunamagica Jan 2016 #28
You give a flying fig, that's who. Your comment shows disinformation. senz Jan 2016 #19
You were "embarrassed for HIM"? Imagine how you're going to feel when you realize Natalie is a woman beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #27
For a political junkie, you sure did post a massive fail. cali Jan 2016 #32
That ain't the original DU Political_Junkie. Political_Junkie Jan 2016 #88
Running away? cali Jan 2016 #33
Your comment sounds entirely made up. senz Jan 2016 #35
are you sure you are on the right thread? m-lekktor Jan 2016 #52
I agree on who cares what the lawyer thinks uponit7771 Jan 2016 #53
Of course you do. Only minorities who support dear anointed hill cali Jan 2016 #58
Cali, you just made some shit up didn't you? hunh? Why don't you link and quote me doing what you uponit7771 Jan 2016 #60
There's no such thing as a "Random Black Person." senz Jan 2016 #75
If you look upthread Lazy Daisy Jan 2016 #68
^^^THIS^^^ beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #80
And this is important jehop61 Jan 2016 #4
More important than the thread SheenaR Jan 2016 #11
This is important because AAs need to know the truth about Bernie. senz Jan 2016 #15
What About Our Supreme Court Justices? Ho Old Are They?? ChiciB1 Jan 2016 #38
They're desperate and will say anything. senz Jan 2016 #45
After 6 months and we don't already then its Sanders fault and not ours, We know about him uponit7771 Jan 2016 #54
Because of her reasons for supporting him. cali Jan 2016 #59
Thank you so much for posting this here artislife Jan 2016 #5
Great news for Bernie! Thanks for the OP. n/t 99th_Monkey Jan 2016 #6
Absolute TRUTH: Bernie is the ONLY CANDIDATE who will make it safe for POC. senz Jan 2016 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author uponit7771 Jan 2016 #57
Wow! That's some serious word salad. Sarah, is that you? Ned_Devine Jan 2016 #64
I almost wrote the exact same thing to one of their posts upthread Fumesucker Jan 2016 #126
In politics, "relationships" mean NOTHING. They're utilitarian, period. senz Jan 2016 #72
Why are you so angry about this endorsement? beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #84
What an awesome endorsement! farleftlib Jan 2016 #14
Clinton supporters obviously FEAR this OP. Why? senz Jan 2016 #16
They're finding it harder and harder to come up with memes. CharlotteVale Jan 2016 #21
I dunno azurnoir Jan 2016 #24
I'll tell you why. senz Jan 2016 #47
This is silly on its face uponit7771 Jan 2016 #55
Because it doesn't fit their narrative cali Jan 2016 #61
Their narrative doesn't fit with the facts. senz Jan 2016 #90
K&R CharlotteVale Jan 2016 #17
I must be an exceptional judge of character. Fawke Em Jan 2016 #25
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Jan 2016 #26
the fact that Hillary supporters retrowire Jan 2016 #34
Their support for the AA community is a mile wide and an inch deep n/t whatchamacallit Jan 2016 #40
+1000 - It's pure politics for them. senz Jan 2016 #43
This message was self-deleted by its author uponit7771 Jan 2016 #56
You sound anxious. She isn't a random black person. cali Jan 2016 #63
Its amzing that HRC suppoters is making this into some type of game Truprogressive85 Jan 2016 #110
Not anxious just frustrated, we'll see.. I'd like to see Sanders numbers rise among POC but it uponit7771 Jan 2016 #127
Random Black Person? frylock Jan 2016 #69
... senz Jan 2016 #93
I thought that I'd go with the current theme of abject defeatism. frylock Jan 2016 #108
LOL! senz Jan 2016 #112
I just got out the penalty box.. frylock Jan 2016 #125
So that's where you've been. senz Jan 2016 #131
I'll try! frylock Jan 2016 #132
Wow senz Jan 2016 #134
Yeap, basically anyone from anywhere ... that's who Bigga is uponit7771 Jan 2016 #128
i havent a clue what would inspire you to respond in that way... retrowire Jan 2016 #70
Bigga uponit7771 Jan 2016 #129
Wow. Talk about tone deaf... beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #82
What an absolutely horrible thing to say. Natalie Jackson is not some "random black myrna minx Jan 2016 #92
Relative to the mother? Yeah... yeah she is uponit7771 Jan 2016 #130
How about her own choices and decisions? Are you pro choice? Are all Women of Color myrna minx Jan 2016 #135
I stand with the #nataliejackson's on her endrosement of Sen.Sanders Truprogressive85 Jan 2016 #49
Good for Sanders. one_voice Jan 2016 #66
Oh my! I thought Hispanics and African Americans didn't support Bernie. I am Hispanic, Bernie 16! Yupy Jan 2016 #76
I think it's more important that Trayvon Martin's MOTHER has endorsed Hillary Clinton. I think.... George II Jan 2016 #78
Do you realize how you sound? Ugh cali Jan 2016 #81
No more "ugh" than the OP. As for me "politicizing" it (to someone else) I didn't start this thread George II Jan 2016 #87
You just invoked Martin's mother and you're accusing the op of politicizing the tragedy? beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #83
Treyvon Martin's family attorney, a savvy AA woman, endorses Bernie Sanders. senz Jan 2016 #86
His mother Endorsed Hillary hrmjustin Jan 2016 #91
Is this a competition to you??? beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #94
I was making the point his mother endorsed Hillary. hrmjustin Jan 2016 #96
You're using the tragedy to play the gotcha game with minority endorsements. beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #97
His mother was very vocal in her support for Hillary. hrmjustin Jan 2016 #99
So you're diminishing this woman and her accomplishments because you think she's not important. beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #100
"This woman" has a name, Natalie Jackson. hrmjustin Jan 2016 #101
I'm supposed to think you care after you tried to "trump" her endorsement by bringing up another AA? beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #102
That "another AA" name is Sybrina Fulton, mother of Travyon Martin. hrmjustin Jan 2016 #103
The decent thing to do is say that's a good endorsement or nothing at all. beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #104
You should look at your own behavior before you judge others. hrmjustin Jan 2016 #105
Show me where I did the same thing and played your game. beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #107
You're playing rock paper scissors with the Martin family! senz Jan 2016 #95
If making the point his mother endorsed Hillary is a game to you hrmjustin Jan 2016 #98
This thread is about Natalie Jackson's endorsement of Sanders. senz Jan 2016 #106
He did the same thing in Segami's thread until they finally had to delete it. beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #109
I didn't know that. What a shame. senz Jan 2016 #113
This particular endorsement really has them upset for some reason. beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #114
I believe it has to do with primary electabilty. senz Jan 2016 #120
Or something else entirely. beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #124
Hmm, could be. senz Jan 2016 #133
Impressive background, I didn't know she was an officer in the Navy: beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #111
Extremely impressive. Evidently that rankles people. farleftlib Jan 2016 #121
Just like they did when Killer Mike endorsed Bernie. beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #123

SheenaR

(2,052 posts)
9. I'm sorry
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 03:24 PM
Jan 2016

I must have missed the part in the OP where anything was discussed about Trayvon's mother. Her endorsement was already posted and discussed. But kudos to you for letting us go back in time a few weeks.

 

JTFrog

(14,274 posts)
18. And
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 03:38 PM
Jan 2016

I must have missed the part where it is forbidden to talk about past events in this forum. In fact I just saw an article posted about a town hall held in 2007. Talk about going back a few years in time.

Anyway, it's hardly off topic to discuss Trayvon's mother in a thread about Trayvon's lawyer and endorsements. But kudos for apologizing up front.



SheenaR

(2,052 posts)
41. It's not forbidden
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 04:31 PM
Jan 2016

Maybe I'm just used to DK. When someone posts a discussion or diary, the first comment typically isn't about a completely different endorsement. Usually an OP gets, you know, "discussed".

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
44. That's how it should be here too.
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 04:36 PM
Jan 2016

But now it's all about playing gotcha, to the extent of using Martin's mother as a prop to diminish this endorsement.

Belated welcome to DU, Sheena!


beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
51. Keep up the good work and don't let others silence you.
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 04:46 PM
Jan 2016

They've been trying to discourage us since Bernie announced but we're stronger than ever.


 

JTFrog

(14,274 posts)
115. That poster was the one trying to do the silencing.
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 08:11 PM
Jan 2016

"Her endorsement was already posted and discussed." So end of, right? Don't bring it up again, right? Not to mention that snide kudos remark made it quite clear who is trying to silence others around here.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
116. Trying to one-up Natalie by bringing up Sybrina was uncalled for and completely irrelevant.
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 08:14 PM
Jan 2016

But HC supporters just had to play gotcha, so don't try to blame the new poster, her take on what happened was spot on.

 

JTFrog

(14,274 posts)
117. Yea, again, so crazy to bring up Trayvon's mother in a thread about Trayvon's attorney.
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 08:15 PM
Jan 2016

Soooooo freaking off topic.

Not.

It just doesn't sit well with some folks so they gotta whine about it. FFS.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
118. No, apparently an AA endorsement for Bernie didn't sit well with some folks at all.
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 08:16 PM
Jan 2016

They just had to try to hijack the thread.

Keep it classy.

 

JTFrog

(14,274 posts)
119. Yeah, you keep spinning that yarn.
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 08:18 PM
Jan 2016

The more you repeat maybe someone will take it seriously I guess.



beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
122. The very first post in this thread proves it's not a yarn.
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 08:24 PM
Jan 2016

And all the subsequent ones just drive the point home.

Every time a PoC endorses Bernie Hillary's supporters dismiss, demean and deflect, just look at the Killer Mike threads.

It doesn't fit the narrative.

PatrynXX

(5,668 posts)
62. I thought she'd gone Hillary although never too late to change her mind
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 05:13 PM
Jan 2016

Everyone is getting odd endorsements this year. Slipknot goes Bernie would take the cake. Pretty much took out the Youth vote to Bernie doing that. So's the Rapper. Someone who's more worried about US than himself has to be sincere.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
65. This endorsement is from the attorney for Trayvon Martin's mother.
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 05:34 PM
Jan 2016

I think this is a very important endorsement. Who is a better judge of how strongly the candidates will pursue the reform of our justice system that is needed to decrease the number of prisoners in our country? A distraught mother who has had one experience with the problem of getting justice for her son or a lawyer who deals with the systemic failings in our justice system over and over?

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
89. Why are you pitting Trayvon's mother against her attorney???
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 06:59 PM
Jan 2016

And for God's sake, what does this have to do with "sway?"

Pretty cynical there, Dawson.

lunamagica

(9,967 posts)
13. Her endorsement carries so much more weight. Along with the endorsements of Gwen Carr,
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 03:29 PM
Jan 2016

And Lucia McBath

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
20. The Trayvon Martin family attorney sounds VERY knowledgable.
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 03:39 PM
Jan 2016

I would give her much more weight for that reason.

 

farleftlib

(2,125 posts)
31. No doubt about that whatsoever.
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 03:58 PM
Jan 2016

But an endorsement from a civil rights lawyer is a pretty big deal.

lunamagica

(9,967 posts)
74. It is a ig deal, but I believe her carries more weight, esp with parents who worry
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 06:11 PM
Jan 2016

their children my end up murdered the same way.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
67. But her knowledge of what needs to be changed and how difficult it will be to change it is
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 05:37 PM
Jan 2016

relatively small.

The lawyer deals with the injustice repeatedly and knows more about what needs to be changed and how it can be changed. The lawyer also knows just how tough it is going to be to get any changes.

This endorsement for Hillary is very important. It attests to the fact that Bernie Sanders is a tough fighter. Hillary will have a hard time getting the cooperation of Congress.

lunamagica

(9,967 posts)
73. He could very well be politically motivated, looking at what he can get out of it
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 06:09 PM
Jan 2016

But from her, it is totally honest.

As for her knowdlege, you are being very judgmental here. You have no idea what she does or does not know.

I've known lots of people with little formal education who have more wisdom and knowdlege than people with college degrees.

I never judge people based on that

As for congress, how can you even say that? compare all the congressional endorsement Hillary has, to those of Sanders.

He is the one getting very little support

 

farleftlib

(2,125 posts)
77. You didn't even read the OP. The lawyer is a SHE, not a HE
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 06:16 PM
Jan 2016

And I'll take the endorsement of a civil right lawyer any day of the week.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
79. The person we're talking about is a "she."
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 06:19 PM
Jan 2016

Treyvon Martin's mother's attorney is a black woman.

Hillary has congressional endorsements because she and her former-POTUS husband are very politically powerful.

Bernie has PLENTY of support from the people. That's why over 20,000 people turned out in the freezing cold to attend his MN rally yesterday. Hillary NEVER gets that kind of turnout. But her clout, her high-placed connections, her money and reputation for vindictiveness get her quite a few gilded endorsements.

I'm a real person who cares about all the hardworking, struggling Americans who have been screwed by Hillary's rich, rightwing friends.

That's why I support Bernie Sanders.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
85. She gets endorsements from Democrats who are hitching their wagon to the star they think
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 06:26 PM
Jan 2016

will win. I'm out there on the street. I think Bernie will win.

Hillary has a lot of payola money. Bernie does not. Hillary's money also wins her endorsements.

Bernie is the one who can get along with both Republicans and Democrats. Hillary is not at all accepted by Republicans. In fact, Republicans get points just for ridiculing and rejecting her.

I stick by my opinion that Bernie will deal with a Republican Congress much better than Hillary.

And I think we have a better chance of changing the balance in Congress with Bernie as our candidate. Bernie is the candidate of the future, oddly enough. He is the one who is appealing to young people.

Jarqui

(10,130 posts)
2. But didn't Jonathan Chait say the only thing Bernie could do was income inquality?
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 02:43 PM
Jan 2016

(over looking all that Bernie has done for civil rights ...)

Good for Trayvon's family. Still sickens me they didn't get the justice I think they deserved.

politicaljunkie41910

(3,335 posts)
3. Who gives a flying fig who Travon Martin's attorney is endorsing?
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 03:01 PM
Jan 2016

I saw this guy being interviewed yesterday by Chris Matthews of MSNBC's Hardball. This guy had no idea of anything that was in Bernie's platform. As a black woman, I was embarassed for him. Chris seemed amazed that the guy acknowledged that he didn't know any of the platitudes Bernie was running on and Matthews has not been carrrying water for Clinton. Not even close. He has been very critical of her. I was shocked that this guy was even a lawyer, with his lack of preparation and knowledge of the major issues between the candidates. He also had only weeks previously endorsed Hillary Clinton. It just goes to show that his vote is up to the highest bidder. Not surprised that he is an attorney. As far as Nina Turner goes, she needs a job. She also has a position working for John Kasich. Go Figure.

ChiciB1

(15,435 posts)
36. Well, So Is Tiffany... My Neighbor's Name Is Tiffany And
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 04:11 PM
Jan 2016

his wife is named Vicki. What's does that have to do with anything??

ChiciB1

(15,435 posts)
39. Yeah, Reading Further I Got It... I Don't Watch MSNBC So Didn't
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 04:20 PM
Jan 2016

see the show. But. my neighbor's name IS Tiffany. After while you don't think anything of it.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
19. You give a flying fig, that's who. Your comment shows disinformation.
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 03:39 PM
Jan 2016

You saw a "guy." The person we're talking about is a female.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
32. For a political junkie, you sure did post a massive fail.
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 04:01 PM
Jan 2016

You couldn't have made it clearer that you have no idea what you're talking about. I will say though, that many du Hillary supporters are creative. With the truth.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
35. Your comment sounds entirely made up.
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 04:10 PM
Jan 2016

But maybe it's just a mistake.

I'm a little embarrassed for you.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
58. Of course you do. Only minorities who support dear anointed hill
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 05:06 PM
Jan 2016

should be listened too. And you piously blather on about Bernie supporters throwing minority endorsers of Hillary under the bus.


uponit7771

(90,359 posts)
60. Cali, you just made some shit up didn't you? hunh? Why don't you link and quote me doing what you
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 05:08 PM
Jan 2016

... claim I did

I'll wait

Also, Random Black Person endorsements don't bode well for anyone.

 

Lazy Daisy

(928 posts)
68. If you look upthread
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 05:40 PM
Jan 2016

You'll notice Nina Turner got tossed under the bus, 'cause you know, her opinion doesn't count seeing as she needs a job and all.
She's like a turbo of energy. When she speaks you feel her words.

And BTW debating who's endorsement holds more weight between Trayvon's mother and attorney..... not good. They are individuals each with their own thoughts and feelings. As a mother of a child lost to the violence against black males that is accepted in this country, her endorsement is powerful. But as a civil rights attorney who fights within this same system for justice, Natalie Jackson's endorsement is just as powerful. Neither negates the other, neither is more important.

SheenaR

(2,052 posts)
11. More important than the thread
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 03:26 PM
Jan 2016

entitled "Bernie Sanders needs to release his medical records" that you rec'd

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
15. This is important because AAs need to know the truth about Bernie.
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 03:32 PM
Jan 2016

It is this: Bernie CARES about human beings and will change the system to reflect the value of ALL people.

Your candidate cares about money and power, period.

That's pretty important, don't you think?

ChiciB1

(15,435 posts)
38. What About Our Supreme Court Justices? Ho Old Are They??
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 04:16 PM
Jan 2016

Where are their health records. Ruth Bader Ginsberg seems quite lively! Not sure about FATSO Scalia! Stupidity! FDR was paralyzed, JFK had terrible back problems and offered from another disease I can't remember.

Then, we had G. W. Bush... what was wrong with him???

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
45. They're desperate and will say anything.
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 04:37 PM
Jan 2016

The "medical" attack is a sign that they can't win on the issues.

uponit7771

(90,359 posts)
54. After 6 months and we don't already then its Sanders fault and not ours, We know about him
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 04:58 PM
Jan 2016

... and don't like it... not worth it and he's chosen different vices than Hillary so I'm not getting a risk reward factor in this

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
12. Absolute TRUTH: Bernie is the ONLY CANDIDATE who will make it safe for POC.
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 03:28 PM
Jan 2016

Thank you so much for posting this, cali. I hope everyone reads it.

Response to senz (Reply #12)

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
72. In politics, "relationships" mean NOTHING. They're utilitarian, period.
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 05:56 PM
Jan 2016

So don't try to use that. Relationships are a means to an end in Hillary's world. Hillary has "relationships" with the CEOs of big banks, with Donald Trump, with the Bushes, with Henry Kissinger.

Why don't you trumpet those "relationships?"

Bernie's location and lifestyle may not bring him into casual contact with numerous AAs, but his entire history of political action demonstrates his complete, irrefutable loyalty to equality and fairness for people of color.

Values, convictions, intentions are what count; they are FAR more motivating in politics than schmoozing.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
47. I'll tell you why.
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 04:40 PM
Jan 2016

Clinton cannot win without the AA vote. It's her most reliable demographic. And her DU supporters know this quite well.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
90. Their narrative doesn't fit with the facts.
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 07:05 PM
Jan 2016

Their narrative is what used to be called a tall tale.

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
25. I must be an exceptional judge of character.
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 03:47 PM
Jan 2016

I'm not kidding when I say that his will make about the 20th "celebrity" that I have followed on Twitter long before this election that has since endorsed Bernie.

And, in this case, both she and Crump follow me, which makes me feel kind of special.

Well, it makes it easy when I want to thank them for their support: it auto-populates!

retrowire

(10,345 posts)
34. the fact that Hillary supporters
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 04:06 PM
Jan 2016

are UPSET that a civil rights lawyer for AA's endorsed Bernie is very telling.

this is a good thing no matter how you see it.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
43. +1000 - It's pure politics for them.
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 04:34 PM
Jan 2016

Let's face it: Bernie fought for AAs from an early age, put his body on the line and always governed/voted to protect them from racist abuse, while Hillary NEVER showed an interest in what racism does to people. Just not something she has ever cared about.

Response to retrowire (Reply #34)

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
63. You sound anxious. She isn't a random black person.
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 05:17 PM
Jan 2016

Much as you may dislike that.


Madame "then I'll only talk to white people" is hardly the advocate she pretends to be.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/hillary-clinton-black-lives-matter_us_55d2ad41e4b055a6dab1453f

Truprogressive85

(900 posts)
110. Its amzing that HRC suppoters is making this into some type of game
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 07:52 PM
Jan 2016

and dismissing her as "just a random black person"

She a lawyer who help defend a family in a high profile case !

uponit7771

(90,359 posts)
127. Not anxious just frustrated, we'll see.. I'd like to see Sanders numbers rise among POC but it
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 09:51 PM
Jan 2016

... aint happening right now and it's not because people don't know who he is

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
93. ...
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 07:11 PM
Jan 2016
You changed your avatar! I like Eeyore just fine, but the other one looked more like you. I kinda miss him.

Oh well.
 

senz

(11,945 posts)
112. LOL!
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 07:58 PM
Jan 2016

As long as you keep posting. Everything's so damn heavy around here, we really need the wit.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
131. So that's where you've been.
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 09:57 PM
Jan 2016

Well, I've turned into the unofficial nag on this subject, possibly irritating some fellow bernistas, but I really wish good commenters would double-check their language before posting -- although some alterters and jurors will go after harmless comments from supporters of competing candidates. But here goes:

I like you. That fact that you're funny is a huge bonus. So please be careful. We need you.

(Insert begging smilie.)

myrna minx

(22,772 posts)
92. What an absolutely horrible thing to say. Natalie Jackson is not some "random black
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 07:10 PM
Jan 2016

person". What a horrible way to demean someone. Disgusting.

myrna minx

(22,772 posts)
135. How about her own choices and decisions? Are you pro choice? Are all Women of Color
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 11:03 PM
Jan 2016

"random black people" if they disagree with you? I find your attitude rather paternalistic. Natalie Jackson is a person in her own right, not some "random black person". Ish.

George II

(67,782 posts)
78. I think it's more important that Trayvon Martin's MOTHER has endorsed Hillary Clinton. I think....
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 06:17 PM
Jan 2016

....she's a little closer to that incident than an unrelated lawyer.

But all of that aside, why are you trying to politicize a tragic failure of the justice system?

George II

(67,782 posts)
87. No more "ugh" than the OP. As for me "politicizing" it (to someone else) I didn't start this thread
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 06:34 PM
Jan 2016
 

senz

(11,945 posts)
86. Treyvon Martin's family attorney, a savvy AA woman, endorses Bernie Sanders.
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 06:32 PM
Jan 2016

Her clientele are fellow AAs, she has seen a lot, and she knows what's happening in the world. So she made her choice.

And that's the way it is.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
94. Is this a competition to you???
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 07:14 PM
Jan 2016

You're actually trying to diminish this woman and the importance of her endorsement to score points on an internet forum?

And you're using the dead child's mother to do it?

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
100. So you're diminishing this woman and her accomplishments because you think she's not important.
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 07:18 PM
Jan 2016

This minority endorsement doesn't count because she didn't endorse the right person.

Thanks for clearing that up.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
102. I'm supposed to think you care after you tried to "trump" her endorsement by bringing up another AA?
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 07:23 PM
Jan 2016

Why is her endorsement less important?

Why did you feel the need to bring up the dead child's mother in this thread?

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
104. The decent thing to do is say that's a good endorsement or nothing at all.
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 07:28 PM
Jan 2016

You don't try to rank endorsements.

Minorities are not footballs, justin and this isn't a game.

Shameful.

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
105. You should look at your own behavior before you judge others.
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 07:30 PM
Jan 2016

Keep going if you feel the need to get the last word again.

But you showed me all I need to know about you.

Good bye!

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
107. Show me where I did the same thing and played your game.
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 07:34 PM
Jan 2016

You're the one who showed his true colours, you couldn't be gracious enough to at least stay away.

Keep it classy.

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
98. If making the point his mother endorsed Hillary is a game to you
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 07:17 PM
Jan 2016

YOU have the problem, not me.

Cheers!

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
106. This thread is about Natalie Jackson's endorsement of Sanders.
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 07:31 PM
Jan 2016

You attempted one-upsmanship. You didn't even bother to discuss the OP, just tried to score a point. That's gamy.

Don't try to wiggle out of it.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
109. He did the same thing in Segami's thread until they finally had to delete it.
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 07:41 PM
Jan 2016

Both Natalie Jackson and Sybrina Fulton are important endorsements.

There's no reason to try to hijack a positive thread about either one.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
113. I didn't know that. What a shame.
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 08:05 PM
Jan 2016

Some people don't want any good news about Bernie at all. And don't seem to care what they have to do to deflect it.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
120. I believe it has to do with primary electabilty.
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 08:18 PM
Jan 2016

That's why they don't want AAs to know much about Bernie. She can't win without them; her campaign thinks of AAs as its "southern firewall."

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
124. Or something else entirely.
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 08:27 PM
Jan 2016

Dismissing and demeaning every PoC who endorses Bernie looks like something else to me.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
111. Impressive background, I didn't know she was an officer in the Navy:
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 07:58 PM
Jan 2016
TJS: How do you respond to people who say that Bernie is just some old, white guy from Vermont who only appeals to white hippies?

NJ: Bernie Sanders has survived being a politician in Washington for over 25 years. He is not a wide-eyed newcomer. While I think it’s true that he appeals to “white hippies,” I also think he should appeal to black folks and the fast evaporating middle class, too. I’m a former naval intelligence officer from a military family who are proud Americans. The humanity that Bernie Sanders represents is true to the American Dream.

 

farleftlib

(2,125 posts)
121. Extremely impressive. Evidently that rankles people.
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 08:19 PM
Jan 2016

But they can't take away her bona fides so they deflect with other endorsements for their candidate.

Epic fail.

Latest Discussions»Retired Forums»2016 Postmortem»Why Trayvon Martin’s fami...