2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumThis is why Bill and Hillary are stressing how deeply religious Hillary is
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Bill Clinton: To understand Hillary, look to her faith
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Bill Clinton: To understand Hillary, look to her faith
By Dan Merica, CNN
Updated 8:19 AM ET, Thu January 28, 2016
Ignoring Trump, Bill Clinton campaigns for Hillary
Ignoring Trump, Bill Clinton campaigns for Hillary 02:25
Mason City, Iowa (CNN)Bill Clinton told an audience in Mason City on Wednesday night that if you really want to understand Hillary Clinton, his wife and Democratic presidential candidate, then you should look first at her Methodist faith.
The comment comes as Clinton has started to talk about her faith more openly on the campaign trail, something she does not do much of.
"In the Methodist church, the founder John Wesley, said we live under a simple obligation to do all the good we can, in whatever ways we can, to all the people we can, for as long as we can," said the former president while stumping for his wife. "She lived by that."
Bill Clinton went on to describe how faith shaped Hillary Clinton's life, especially the experiences facilitated by Done Jones, her young minister in Park Ridge, Illinois. Jones took Clinton to meet Martin Luther King, Jr. in 1962, something Bill Clinton called a "seminal" moment in his wife's life.
King's "favorite hymn was a classic old spiritual called 'If I Can Help Somebody' and I won't bore you will all the voices but the last line is If I can help someone as I travel on, then my living would not be in vain," Bill Clinton said. "That is what she has lived by."
He added, "It took my breath away when I realized 45 years ago that is really what motivates her."
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"It is very important to me. I am a person of faith. I am Christian. I am a Methodist," Clinton said, adding later that she believes "there are many different ways of exercising your faith, but I do believe that in many areas judgment should be left to God."
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http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/28/politics/bill-clinton-hillary-clinton-faith/index.html
lsewpershad
(2,620 posts)is this because her judgement is being questioned? Did she wait on god to decide to support invading Iraq? may god told her that was the right "judgement" [decision].
hobbit709
(41,694 posts)winter is coming
(11,785 posts)And I really don't care what religious beliefs a candidate has, as long as they're clear on the church/state dividing line.
Punkingal
(9,522 posts)840high
(17,196 posts)and adultery - yep - they are very religious. Not.
daybranch
(1,309 posts)throwing the money changers out of the temple and that you can only work for one master. We know she works for the money changers.
As a Christian, I think the biggest problem with Christians is not being Christian. Go Bernie!
cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)Why yes. I believe she is!
winter is coming
(11,785 posts)artislife
(9,497 posts)Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)weapon against the civil rights of LGBT people for years and years and years. Plenty of harm done by the judging they did not leave to God. Plenty.
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,330 posts)m-lekktor
(3,675 posts)frylock
(34,825 posts)CoffeeCat
(24,411 posts)Now that "faith" has been poll tested, the Clintons are out with their religion on their sleeve.
This looks disingenuous.
CharlotteVale
(2,717 posts)peacebird
(14,195 posts)Broward
(1,976 posts)Bernie's Jewish background.
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)TheBlackAdder
(28,208 posts).
It must be his accent that throws me off!
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thereismore
(13,326 posts)God I remember how much I liked him in 1991.
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)gyroscope
(1,443 posts)the quintessential used car salesman.
Hard to imagine this guy could actually be back in the White House. Dear god.
malthaussen
(17,204 posts)Her god (or goddess, as may be) is what is in question.
-- Mal
Hiraeth
(4,805 posts)Goblinmonger
(22,340 posts)Right? Right? They wouldn't do that would they?
floriduck
(2,262 posts)I can't believe people are so gullible to believe there is any sincerity to Billy boy having his breath taken away by anything not in a blue dress.
Bill's face after he was caught.
farleftlib
(2,125 posts)Why did the term Pharisees just pop into my head?
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)The the rich man not making it through the Eye of the Needle...He wasn't enthralled by wealth and power. The original Hippie!!
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)She is a believing Methodist.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,733 posts)DemocraticWing
(1,290 posts)Is this really what you guys want her to run on?
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)frylock
(34,825 posts)Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)That was the first question that sprung to mind when we found the chief executive of Goldman smiling at us from the top of a very long profile of the firm that begins with the headline "I'm doing 'God's Work.' Meet Mr. Goldman Sachs.
Were very important, Blankfein is quoted as saying in The Times of London. We help companies to grow by helping them to raise capital. Companies that grow create wealth. This, in turn, allows people to have jobs that create more growth and more wealth. Its a virtuous cycle.
He goes on to admit to being the focus of public outrage--"I know I could slit my wrists and people would cheer"--but then blows the attempt to reconciliation by saying he is "doing God's work."
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MisterP
(23,730 posts)she'll talk about "life" to one audience and pretend to be in FEMEN for the next
Cassiopeia
(2,603 posts)To help the rich by exploiting the poor. How have we gotten so far away from that message?
thereismore
(13,326 posts)bunnies
(15,859 posts)hmmm.
elana i am
(814 posts)about sanders not mentioning that clinton met with AA leaders right before sucking up to the wall street crooks and thinking that was odious (what clinton did, not sanders!), then i read this thread.
yeah. i don't believe a word either of them say about anything anymore.
Mike__M
(1,052 posts)Ammon Bundy is a man of faith.
So what?
Hardly something to brag about.
Buzz cook
(2,472 posts)Hillary is really a secret rightwing religious conservative controlled by "The Family".