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reformist2

(9,841 posts)
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 07:02 PM Jan 2016

Wow, the Hillary crowd seems to have decided on a last-minute, all-out smear of Bernie! PATHETIC.

It really is disgraceful. I'm sorry, there is no excuse for this - I don't care how badly she and her crowd think she's the "better" candidate. If Hillary approved any of this, she really doesn't deserve the nomination.

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Wow, the Hillary crowd seems to have decided on a last-minute, all-out smear of Bernie! PATHETIC. (Original Post) reformist2 Jan 2016 OP
Yes, it was disgraceful of Sanders purpossing omiting that Hillary also was in Phill to meet with riversedge Jan 2016 #1
The blacks are the establishment KingFlorez Jan 2016 #5
Well, as Colbert pointed out "That top 1% generally doesn't have a lot of chocolate in it." JimDandy Jan 2016 #38
Very disgraceful of the Sanders campaign workinclasszero Jan 2016 #16
No campaign staff or supporters of any candidate ever got carried away and went over the line before Armstead Jan 2016 #21
Selective amnesia. nt. nc4bo Jan 2016 #44
They're not her campaign manager. Fawke Em Jan 2016 #22
So Bernie's obligated to recite Hillary's itinerary now? frylock Jan 2016 #25
let me help....yes, yes bernie of course is supposed to restorefreedom Jan 2016 #56
It's amazing to me that they believe shit like this has any traction. frylock Jan 2016 #58
perhaps we are in the matrix..... restorefreedom Jan 2016 #62
How many civilians were killed there? John Poet Jan 2016 #75
She doesn't deserve the nomination even if she DIDN'T approve it. Smarmie Doofus Jan 2016 #2
No liberal interventionist who supports neoconservative war policies John Poet Jan 2016 #76
How could she not approve....to quote Secretary to the U.N. Samantha Power on Hillary virtualobserver Jan 2016 #3
From one monster to another. JackRiddler Jan 2016 #65
This message was self-deleted by its author VulgarPoet Jan 2016 #4
I'm watching people lose their collective shit. I'll write my thesis paper about this phenomenon. nt TheBlackAdder Jan 2016 #6
Yeap, even insinuated Sanders was in bed with Wall Street by making an issue of him... uponit7771 Jan 2016 #7
Yes, she approved Bernie's impersonation of union members and unauthorized use of DanTex Jan 2016 #8
can you give some examples? nt ProudToBeLiberal Jan 2016 #9
one of her campaign managers even accused Bernie of Rovian tactics; disgusting smears, etc. nt amborin Jan 2016 #10
Projection much? TDale313 Jan 2016 #80
"If", really? NorthCarolina Jan 2016 #11
Poor Bernie! treestar Jan 2016 #12
Well, at least you're comparing the Clinton campaign to republicans. arcane1 Jan 2016 #17
Unauthorized use of AARP logo--AARP Statement in Response to Sanders Mailing riversedge Jan 2016 #13
Do you know how many people care about this? Fawke Em Jan 2016 #23
yes. sweep the deceptive Sanders staff under the rug. NOPE riversedge Jan 2016 #36
Can you cite some examples please? All I'm seeing on DU are the usual attacks on Hillary. Metric System Jan 2016 #14
I'm confused... toshiba783 Jan 2016 #20
Me too. betsuni Jan 2016 #43
That pretty much sums it up. Bobbie Jo Jan 2016 #70
Exactly---400 threads calling Hillary a liar, corrupt, unelectable frazzled Jan 2016 #28
There is documented video evidence of Hillary lying.. frylock Jan 2016 #60
Is it too much to ask that people mention what they're talking about in posts like these? nt betsuni Jan 2016 #15
The talking points are coming like a tsunami today. Wonder how much they cost, Brock of course sabrina 1 Jan 2016 #18
I have decided for quite a while to sadoldgirl Jan 2016 #19
They Keep Rolling Gutter Balls. Warren DeMontague Jan 2016 #24
Mark it zero. frylock Jan 2016 #26
LOL Art_from_Ark Jan 2016 #32
Everyone in that photo is white SDJay Jan 2016 #35
This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Jan 2016 #37
I didn't even know you could go out there in street shoes. n/t winter is coming Jan 2016 #81
They are completely MANIC!! I wouldn't take it seriously. m-lekktor Jan 2016 #27
Nothing will work against the Bern. azmom Jan 2016 #29
Running on raising taxes is genius? Mondale redstateblues Jan 2016 #68
Stay tuned and prepare to be amazed. azmom Jan 2016 #69
Do you have any context or details to provide to know what you're talking about here? LonePirate Jan 2016 #30
This message was self-deleted by its author Nanjeanne Jan 2016 #31
Sanders supporters have been smearing Clinton for MONTHS. Yes, she's got legit stuff to attack KittyWampus Jan 2016 #33
Yeah! artislife Jan 2016 #34
artislife, you are wonderful. I want you in my corner all the time! Ned_Devine Jan 2016 #78
Hee! artislife Jan 2016 #83
Hillary supporters cling to Republican policies. Broward Jan 2016 #42
Except that the "smears" are not from her campaign. Beacool Jan 2016 #48
Printed in newspapers as written by former Clinton staffers. frylock Jan 2016 #64
about the culinary union questionseverything Jan 2016 #66
What are you referring to? Renew Deal Jan 2016 #39
Would you care to favor us with one specific? To accuse you needto site an instance of the "crime" Bill USA Jan 2016 #40
I think they mean articles from the NYT, the WaPo, AARP, the Culinary Union. Beacool Jan 2016 #46
Are you really surprised? beam me up scottie Jan 2016 #41
What smears? People are posting articles from various sources. Beacool Jan 2016 #45
I was going to post they couldn't be from the Clinton campaign because they weren't about issues. cherokeeprogressive Jan 2016 #72
They are bitter and having 2008 flashbacks. morningfog Jan 2016 #47
Sorry, your candidate's campaign is smearing itself. MeNMyVolt Jan 2016 #49
You noticed that, too? Blue_In_AK Jan 2016 #50
Desperation Is As Desperation Does... They Are TRULY Worried !!! WillyT Jan 2016 #51
Like Samantha Power said in 2008 : " she is stooping to anything " virtualobserver Jan 2016 #63
Actually, Bernie is slipping back. It's the Bernarians who are putting on a brave face and bracing for a narrow defeat redstateblues Jan 2016 #82
This thread is comedy gold liberal N proud Jan 2016 #52
The RATS are coming out to do you know what! PatrickforO Jan 2016 #53
hey, OP author, maybe you'd like to use this 'smear' see link Bill USA Jan 2016 #54
It's not going to help them, so I don't care. Kalidurga Jan 2016 #55
What did I do now? hrmjustin Jan 2016 #57
It's cute how they think we're all coordinated and/or affiliated with the Clinton campaign. Metric System Jan 2016 #79
She's going to lose Iowa and NH, so just IGNORE their garbage. in_cog_ni_to Jan 2016 #59
The truth is if Bernie doesn't win Iowa he's done redstateblues Jan 2016 #74
Keep dreaming. The raising taxes lie won't float. We have the internet now WHERE WE FIND THE TRUTH in_cog_ni_to Jan 2016 #84
I believe there is video of Bernie saying redstateblues Jan 2016 #85
It's totally off the charts farleftlib Jan 2016 #61
ha ha. Sanders staff goes deceptive then his supporters blame riversedge Jan 2016 #67
I wonder, what is really happening here today. sadoldgirl Jan 2016 #71
If there was a law that said campaigns had to be about issues and not staff or supporters... cherokeeprogressive Jan 2016 #73
Their internals must really suck... something's up, indeed. Purveyor Jan 2016 #77

riversedge

(70,242 posts)
1. Yes, it was disgraceful of Sanders purpossing omiting that Hillary also was in Phill to meet with
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 07:08 PM
Jan 2016

black ministers --and disgraceful that Sanders staff deceptively got into the union dining rooms . I agree.

KingFlorez

(12,689 posts)
5. The blacks are the establishment
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 07:10 PM
Jan 2016

Blacks are nothing but puppets to the oligarchs and the big banks and Wall Street and the Clintons.

JimDandy

(7,318 posts)
38. Well, as Colbert pointed out "That top 1% generally doesn't have a lot of chocolate in it."
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 08:07 PM
Jan 2016

While funny, it IS spot on.

You can be used, without necessarily being a puppet. Noone wants to be used, especially for political purposes, whether it's by the oligarchs, Clintons or anyone else. And, as it's been often pointed out on Black twitter and elsewhere, noone wants their vote taken for granted by any politician, especially not by Hillary who ran an incredibly ugly campaign against Obama in 2008. We have long memories...

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
16. Very disgraceful of the Sanders campaign
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 07:20 PM
Jan 2016

The OP needs to look at msnbc and cnn. This isn't something Hillary people made up. Also read the outraged letter the union put out about this serious incedent.
I can't believe the Sanders campaign has gone to ground on this scandal. These people should be fired already and an apology issued.

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
21. No campaign staff or supporters of any candidate ever got carried away and went over the line before
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 07:32 PM
Jan 2016

How's about when the Clinton campaign circulated pictures of Obama in full African garb to make him seem "other"

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
22. They're not her campaign manager.
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 07:35 PM
Jan 2016

They are under no obligation to give her schedule. The fact is that she DID meet with a bunch of fat-cats.

frylock

(34,825 posts)
25. So Bernie's obligated to recite Hillary's itinerary now?
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 07:40 PM
Jan 2016

Are you fucking shitting me with this nonsense?

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
56. let me help....yes, yes bernie of course is supposed to
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 09:10 PM
Jan 2016

recite her itinerary and only say things that reflect positively on her while leaving out pertinent info that, while true, might call attention to poor judgement and bad politics in her past.

IT'S A CORONATION, DAMMIT!!!!

who do we think we are, citizens with rights????

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
62. perhaps we are in the matrix.....
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 09:15 PM
Jan 2016

or having a very long very bad dream....

idk, but it is seriously wacked.

 

John Poet

(2,510 posts)
75. How many civilians were killed there?
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 12:32 AM
Jan 2016

Thanks to Hillary's vote enabling George W. Bush to make war on Iraq,
several hundred thousand innocent Iraqi civilians perished.

 

Smarmie Doofus

(14,498 posts)
2. She doesn't deserve the nomination even if she DIDN'T approve it.
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 07:09 PM
Jan 2016

Or, at minimum, she has failed to demonstrate same.

Again.







 

John Poet

(2,510 posts)
76. No liberal interventionist who supports neoconservative war policies
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 12:35 AM
Jan 2016

deserves the nomination of the Democratic party for President.

It is absolutely, totally unacceptable.



If I wanted to double down on neoconservative foreign policy,
I'd just vote for her "brother" JEB! in the Republican primary.

 

virtualobserver

(8,760 posts)
3. How could she not approve....to quote Secretary to the U.N. Samantha Power on Hillary
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 07:10 PM
Jan 2016

“She is a monster, too – that is off the record – she is stooping to anything."

It is the stuff that is off the record that you can believe.

Response to reformist2 (Original post)

uponit7771

(90,347 posts)
7. Yeap, even insinuated Sanders was in bed with Wall Street by making an issue of him...
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 07:11 PM
Jan 2016

... going to meet with an investment bank but leaves out he meet with some AA preachers.

Damn HRC crowd and their smearing of candidates!!!!

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
8. Yes, she approved Bernie's impersonation of union members and unauthorized use of
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 07:13 PM
Jan 2016

the AARP logo. You think Bernie does stuff without asking Hillary first? Pfffft

TDale313

(7,820 posts)
80. Projection much?
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 12:52 AM
Jan 2016

Which is pretty Rovian in itself. Accuse the other side of shit you're doing yourself. Also, make your opponent's greatest strength a weakness (in this case Bernie's refusal to go negative, his trustworthiness, and his basic decency)

treestar

(82,383 posts)
12. Poor Bernie!
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 07:19 PM
Jan 2016

Imagine the Republicans getting a hold of him. All the unfair smears they will descend on him will make this look like a cake walk.

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
17. Well, at least you're comparing the Clinton campaign to republicans.
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 07:20 PM
Jan 2016

It's the first step to recovery.

riversedge

(70,242 posts)
13. Unauthorized use of AARP logo--AARP Statement in Response to Sanders Mailing
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 07:19 PM
Jan 2016

And another Sanders camp screw-up--they are not ready for prime-time.

Unauthorized use of AARP logo--AARP Statement in Response to Sanders Mailing -http://states.aarp.org/tag/unauthorized-use-of-aarp-logo/ … #iacaucus #p2

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
23. Do you know how many people care about this?
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 07:37 PM
Jan 2016

The 40 or so Hillary fans on this board and the five or 10 upper echelon of AARP.

Voters don't care if someone uses a logo (or a song).

His campaign will simply stop sending the mailers with the logo and that will be the end of that.

toshiba783

(74 posts)
20. I'm confused...
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 07:31 PM
Jan 2016

I'm reading a discussion board where the majority of the negativity is directed at Clinton - yet, at the same time the majority of complaints about negativity and attacks are coming from Sanders supporters.

betsuni

(25,537 posts)
43. Me too.
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 08:44 PM
Jan 2016

It's like when my husband's looking for something and blames me for hiding it, gets all worked up until I go and point at the thing right in front of his face. This happens all the damn time on this board, but some people are unable to see things that are right in front of their faces even after it's pointed out.

Bobbie Jo

(14,341 posts)
70. That pretty much sums it up.
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 10:16 PM
Jan 2016

IOW...

They can sure dish it out, but struggle with the concept of being on the receiving end of any criticism.

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
28. Exactly---400 threads calling Hillary a liar, corrupt, unelectable
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 07:47 PM
Jan 2016

and a few threads pointing out Sanders' screwups today (the stage-managed black women, the illicit use of AARP logo--I won't even mention the current NYT article "Bernie Sanders Is Democrats’ Top Beneficiary of Outside Spending, Like it or Not," since I haven't seen anyone post it yet, probably for fear of mass bullying) plus one negative editorial, and they go berserk.

As we used to say as kids, they can dish it out, but they sure can't take it.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
18. The talking points are coming like a tsunami today. Wonder how much they cost, Brock of course
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 07:29 PM
Jan 2016

is very expensive, but the rapid fire assault on our sensibilities with all these stupid talking points, isn't really doing much to help get THEIR candidate elected.

sadoldgirl

(3,431 posts)
19. I have decided for quite a while to
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 07:31 PM
Jan 2016

ignore OPs from certain people. It has made
my life much easier than trying to refute
garbage.

SDJay

(1,089 posts)
35. Everyone in that photo is white
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 08:04 PM
Jan 2016

Problem with the AA community, perhaps?



Obviously that's a joke, but we're close to the first primary. People have been waiting for months if not longer for this election cycle to finally get moving. Everyone is amped up for their candidate.

Response to Warren DeMontague (Reply #24)

redstateblues

(10,565 posts)
68. Running on raising taxes is genius? Mondale
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 10:09 PM
Jan 2016

Was the last Democrat to attempt that. He carried one state. His home state MN

Response to reformist2 (Original post)

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
33. Sanders supporters have been smearing Clinton for MONTHS. Yes, she's got legit stuff to attack
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 07:55 PM
Jan 2016

her one.

But we all know half the crap Sanders supporters post and cling to is Republican bullshit and twisted issues.

 

artislife

(9,497 posts)
34. Yeah!
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 08:01 PM
Jan 2016

Like his vote on the War

Like his money from Monsanto

Like his speaking fees to Wall street

Like his private email server


Like his ....


ooops

Beacool

(30,250 posts)
48. Except that the "smears" are not from her campaign.
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 08:58 PM
Jan 2016

They are articles printed on newspapers and from groups like the Culinary Union and AARP.

Bill USA

(6,436 posts)
40. Would you care to favor us with one specific? To accuse you needto site an instance of the "crime"
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 08:09 PM
Jan 2016


that is: WHAT "SMEAR"??

Beacool

(30,250 posts)
46. I think they mean articles from the NYT, the WaPo, AARP, the Culinary Union.
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 08:55 PM
Jan 2016

You know, all those people who work for Hillary's campaign.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
41. Are you really surprised?
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 08:11 PM
Jan 2016

Hillary supporters have been smearing him since he announced, they just turned it up to 11.

All of the outrage they couldn't summon for the Iraq war is now being spent on mailergate.

Beacool

(30,250 posts)
45. What smears? People are posting articles from various sources.
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 08:53 PM
Jan 2016

None of them are from the Hillary campaign.

 

cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
72. I was going to post they couldn't be from the Clinton campaign because they weren't about issues.
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 10:22 PM
Jan 2016

But that would have been redundant.

redstateblues

(10,565 posts)
82. Actually, Bernie is slipping back. It's the Bernarians who are putting on a brave face and bracing for a narrow defeat
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 01:06 AM
Jan 2016

If Bernie doesn't win both Iowa and NH he's done

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
55. It's not going to help them, so I don't care.
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 09:06 PM
Jan 2016

In a way I find it amusing. I wish that the behavior was confined to RWers then it would be hilarious. But, it's a bit off putting when people who claim to be in the fight for the public good and for the disenfranchised go out of their way to attack someone who has made it their passion in life. Well it doesn't take a genius to see that they really aren't about helping people.

in_cog_ni_to

(41,600 posts)
59. She's going to lose Iowa and NH, so just IGNORE their garbage.
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 09:12 PM
Jan 2016

It's their futile last gasp. Pity them, then ignore them.

PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE

redstateblues

(10,565 posts)
74. The truth is if Bernie doesn't win Iowa he's done
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 11:48 PM
Jan 2016

If he does he will be crushed on Super Tuesday. The last Democrat that ran on raising taxes was Walter Mondale. He won his home state MN. That's all.

in_cog_ni_to

(41,600 posts)
84. Keep dreaming. The raising taxes lie won't float. We have the internet now WHERE WE FIND THE TRUTH
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 10:20 AM
Jan 2016

The lying MSM and Clinton campaign (and supporters) can't CHANGE THE FACTS. People will SAVE THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS PER YEAR.

The question is, why wouldn't you want ALL of your fellow citizens to have healthcare?
GREED IS UGLY.

PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE

redstateblues

(10,565 posts)
85. I believe there is video of Bernie saying
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 11:50 AM
Jan 2016

"Yes, I will raise taxes". If Bernie gets the nomination he will share the same fate as Walter Mondale who ran on raising taxes. He won one state. FYI- I've been a huge supporter of the ACA. Your stupid insult is way off base. You Bernie supporters always resort to the personal attack when someone doesn't agree with your saviour. It's hilarious that you follow your nasty attack with PEACE and LOVE. What a joke.

riversedge

(70,242 posts)
67. ha ha. Sanders staff goes deceptive then his supporters blame
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 09:57 PM
Jan 2016

Hillary and or her supporters!! got it.

sadoldgirl

(3,431 posts)
71. I wonder, what is really happening here today.
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 10:16 PM
Jan 2016

Normally, when there is a storm of attacks by the
HRC supporters, there are some bad news for that
campaign.

So, what are they worried about this time?

They can't be silly enough to think that all voters
in IA and NH are all of a sudden reading DU?!

If they just got a stomach flu, which can be infectious,
I wish them well and hope that they get over it soon.

 

cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
73. If there was a law that said campaigns had to be about issues and not staff or supporters...
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 10:25 PM
Jan 2016

The Clinton campaign would have folded like a cheap lawn chair way back in the summer.

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