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The attacks never stop, but Hillary is still standing. I'm with her. We won't be erased. (Original Post) ProudToBeLiberal Jan 2016 OP
You can have her.. Health Wagon Jan 2016 #1
.... 840high Jan 2016 #33
Sadly, over the Hill Fumesucker Jan 2016 #2
Good thing Hill's changed all that stuff, just magically erased it all. Autumn Jan 2016 #6
Blind allegiance to a dying party. frylock Jan 2016 #8
That has to be it. From hating her for her IWR to hating her opponent who voted no Autumn Jan 2016 #9
Nice threadjack btw frylock Jan 2016 #11
Yeah sometimes it's gotta be jacked. Autumn Jan 2016 #12
Whoops! Meant to say that to the Fumesucker.. frylock Jan 2016 #14
That happens. Myself I like to thread jack with turtles. Who doesn't love turtles? Autumn Jan 2016 #16
I like turtles. frylock Jan 2016 #17
I wish there were Rent a Turtle stores, I would rent one so I could sit in my garden and watch it Autumn Jan 2016 #19
They'll mow your lawn, like a goat.. frylock Jan 2016 #23
Holy damn the hits just keep coming. frylock Jan 2016 #10
We are literally hours away ... NanceGreggs Jan 2016 #28
But you don't care Fumesucker Jan 2016 #29
I don't care what gets said here? NanceGreggs Jan 2016 #30
What's rather telling is what you said. cali Jan 2016 #35
Of course not, why leave willingly.... daleanime Jan 2016 #3
Nice picture. It favors her Xipe Totec Jan 2016 #4
Classy, and likewise. nt kjones Jan 2016 #25
Don't stop thinking about tomorrow. frylock Jan 2016 #5
Agreed KingFlorez Jan 2016 #7
We won't be erased! Iliyah Jan 2016 #13
There is ABSOLUTELY a place for Hillary Clinton in the history books. cherokeeprogressive Jan 2016 #15
That's a faith-based, not an evidence-based claim. I'd say it's about 50/50 Donald Ian Rankin Jan 2016 #37
I defer to Matt Foley Perogie Jan 2016 #18
Truly great pic. but the attacks that are hurting Hillary are self inflicted awake Jan 2016 #20
The attacks never stop because she keeps giving them more shit to attack her over. jeff47 Jan 2016 #21
No one's trying to erase either one of you. winter is coming Jan 2016 #22
Of course she won't be erased. jonestonesusa Jan 2016 #24
anyone who's been to a city meeting knows this type: whenever anyone else MisterP Jan 2016 #26
K & R SunSeeker Jan 2016 #27
"We won't be erased!" Oh my lord. Scootaloo Jan 2016 #31
I can't find my eraser so everyone is safe. 840high Jan 2016 #32
Proud to stand with Hillary BlueMTexpat Jan 2016 #34
K&R I'm also with her lunamagica Jan 2016 #36

Autumn

(45,096 posts)
6. Good thing Hill's changed all that stuff, just magically erased it all.
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 11:48 PM
Jan 2016
Hillary is emotionally ill
How does someone go from that to supporting her this time

Autumn

(45,096 posts)
16. That happens. Myself I like to thread jack with turtles. Who doesn't love turtles?
Sat Jan 30, 2016, 12:05 AM
Jan 2016

Find someone who doesn't like turtles, who doesn't think turtles are cute. It ain't happening.

Autumn

(45,096 posts)
19. I wish there were Rent a Turtle stores, I would rent one so I could sit in my garden and watch it
Sat Jan 30, 2016, 12:11 AM
Jan 2016

run around the yard all summer.

frylock

(34,825 posts)
10. Holy damn the hits just keep coming.
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 11:53 PM
Jan 2016

It's laughable that these people think they have any credibility outside of their safe havens and hate sites.

NanceGreggs

(27,814 posts)
28. We are literally hours away ...
Sat Jan 30, 2016, 02:39 AM
Jan 2016

... from the Iowa caucuses. And you're spending your time posting that same link to something I said in 2008.

I think that's rather telling - don't you? Do you think that if you bait me into a "hide", Bernie will fare better on Monday?

It's not happenin', bro. You can do your best to try and belittle me - and every other HRC-supporter here. But it ain't gonna get Bernie the nomination.

Sorry things aren't working out for you. I'm sure it seemed like a good idea at the time.

NanceGreggs

(27,814 posts)
30. I don't care what gets said here?
Sat Jan 30, 2016, 03:12 AM
Jan 2016

No, I don't - aside from the amusement factor, which I've already explained.

But as I said, sorry your well-laid plans didn't work out.

Xipe Totec

(43,890 posts)
4. Nice picture. It favors her
Fri Jan 29, 2016, 11:46 PM
Jan 2016

And I respect your choices.

If she wins the nomination, she'll have my support as well.

Until then I favor a different candidate.

 

cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
15. There is ABSOLUTELY a place for Hillary Clinton in the history books.
Sat Jan 30, 2016, 12:02 AM
Jan 2016

A very large place. In her lifetime, she's done worlds of good for lots of people.

I'm sorry.

It won't include her in the Oval Office.

Donald Ian Rankin

(13,598 posts)
37. That's a faith-based, not an evidence-based claim. I'd say it's about 50/50
Sat Jan 30, 2016, 12:01 PM
Jan 2016

To pluck some numbers out of the air:

Democratic nominee:
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[div style="display:table-row; padding:inherit;"]
[div style="display:table-cell; padding:inherit;"]Clinton
[div style="display:table-cell; padding:inherit;"]5/6

[div style="display:table-row; padding:inherit;"]
[div style="display:table-cell; padding:inherit;"]Sanders
[div style="display:table-cell; padding:inherit;"]1/6



Republican nominee:
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[div style="display:table-row; padding:inherit;"]
[div style="display:table-cell; padding:inherit;"] Trump
[div style="display:table-cell; padding:inherit;"]3/6

[div style="display:table-row; padding:inherit;"]
[div style="display:table-cell; padding:inherit;"]Cruz
[div style="display:table-cell; padding:inherit;"]2/6

[div style="display:table-row; padding:inherit;"]
[div style="display:table-cell; padding:inherit;"]Rubio
[div style="display:table-cell; padding:inherit;"]1/6




Odds on Democrat winning matchup
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[div style="display:table-row;padding:inherit;"]
[div style="display:table-cell;padding:inherit;"]
[div style="display:table-cell;padding:inherit;"]Clinton
[div style="display:table-cell;padding:inherit;"]Sanders

[div style="display:table-row;padding:inherit;"]
[div style="display:table-cell;padding:inherit;"]Trump
[div style="display:table-cell;padding:inherit;"]7/10
[div style="display:table-cell;padding:inherit;"]?5/10?

[div style="display:table-row;padding:inherit;"]
[div style="display:table-cell;padding:inherit;"]Cruz
[div style="display:table-cell;padding:inherit;"]5/10
[div style="display:table-cell;padding:inherit;"]2/10

[div style="display:table-row;padding:inherit;"]
[div style="display:table-cell;padding:inherit;"]Rubio
[div style="display:table-cell;padding:inherit;"]3/10
[div style="display:table-cell;padding:inherit;"]1/10



Chance of being the next president:
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[div style="display:table-row;padding:inherit;"]
[div style="display:table-cell;padding:inherit;"]Clinton
[div style="display:table-cell;padding:inherit;"]170/360
[div style="display:table-cell;padding:inherit;"]=1/2ish

[div style="display:table-row;padding:inherit;"]
[div style="display:table-cell;padding:inherit;"]Cruz
[div style="display:table-cell;padding:inherit;"]66/360
[div style="display:table-cell;padding:inherit;"]=1/5ish

[div style="display:table-row;padding:inherit;"]
[div style="display:table-cell;padding:inherit;"]Trump
[div style="display:table-cell;padding:inherit;"]60/360
[div style="display:table-cell;padding:inherit;"]=1/6ish

[div style="display:table-row;padding:inherit;"]
[div style="display:table-cell;padding:inherit;"]Rubio
[div style="display:table-cell;padding:inherit;"]44/360
[div style="display:table-cell;padding:inherit;"]=1/8ish

[div style="display:table-row;padding:inherit;"]
[div style="display:table-cell;padding:inherit;"]Sanders
[div style="display:table-cell;padding:inherit;"]20/360
[div style="display:table-cell;padding:inherit;"]=1/20 ish



Now, obviously, those numbers are very, very sketchy - the only one with any authority behind it is the Clinton/Sanders one, which comes from 538. I'm probably being a bit pessimistic about Clinton/Trump, and a bit optimistic about both Democrats chances against Cruz, and I don't think anyone has any real handle on predicting the Republican primary or the Sanders/Trump matchup (if both parties pick simultaneously candidates who would usually be considered unelectable, who knows what will happen - Bloomberg?).

But the takeaway is that Clinton's odds of becoming the next president are not very dissimilar to 50%.

awake

(3,226 posts)
20. Truly great pic. but the attacks that are hurting Hillary are self inflicted
Sat Jan 30, 2016, 12:17 AM
Jan 2016

I am truly fearful that we might lose the White House because of Hillary's home grown email server. You can tell your self it does not matter that Top Secret info have been found on her home server you may think "no one will care" I am afraid this is wishful thinking in my opinion this issue will not be going away anytime soon. It is not an attack when someone points out the truth.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
21. The attacks never stop because she keeps giving them more shit to attack her over.
Sat Jan 30, 2016, 12:18 AM
Jan 2016

Email server should have never existed. She made it exist.

She should have turned over her work emails when she stepped down. She didn't, so now there's a FOIA lawsuit digging through everything in the server

...which found classified in the server. So now the FBI's investigating.

There'd be a hell of a lot fewer attacks if she'd stop blasting away at her feet.

winter is coming

(11,785 posts)
22. No one's trying to erase either one of you.
Sat Jan 30, 2016, 12:18 AM
Jan 2016

Losing a political contest isn't erasure. I'm sure you'll be very disappointed if Hillary doesn't win, but both of you will still exist.

jonestonesusa

(880 posts)
24. Of course she won't be erased.
Sat Jan 30, 2016, 01:07 AM
Jan 2016

She's been running for president for 30 years. I would certainly expect a public profile by now that lasts more than a news cycle.

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
26. anyone who's been to a city meeting knows this type: whenever anyone else
Sat Jan 30, 2016, 02:34 AM
Jan 2016

dares talk they start bellowing "WE! WILL! NOT! BE! SILENCED!" in unison

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