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Related: About this forumWhy these anti-Bernie arguments fail
As nearest as I can tell, the main argument against Bernie Sanders is as follows.
The policies Sanders proposes do not have a realistic chance of becoming law, even if Sanders were elected POTUS.
This is why almost all prominent progressive wonks, advocacy organizations and congressional Democrats have endorsed, or at least lean toward, Sec. Hillary Clinton.
Additionally, when Sanders is challenged on this point, his campaign and his supporters have responded with a frothing, unbecoming anger that reinforces the perception that they are politically naive and unwilling to do the coalition building and make the compromises required to actually get things done.
The policies Sanders proposes do not have a realistic chance of becoming law, even if Sanders were elected POTUS.
This is why almost all prominent progressive wonks, advocacy organizations and congressional Democrats have endorsed, or at least lean toward, Sec. Hillary Clinton.
Additionally, when Sanders is challenged on this point, his campaign and his supporters have responded with a frothing, unbecoming anger that reinforces the perception that they are politically naive and unwilling to do the coalition building and make the compromises required to actually get things done.
Now, it was not always the same people predicting that Sanders and his supporters had no chance who are now saying his policies have no chance and his supporters are full of anger and naivete. But it was a lot of the same people, and considered as a whole it was the same type of elite consensus. That consensus was wrong before--why would it be correct now?
Sec. Clinton could still win Iowa on Monday. Doing so would, I believe, make her an extremely heavy favorite to win the nomination. So maybe this argument will prove effective after all--or at least prove to have been good enough, even if it wasn't great.
However, if Sen. Sanders wins, we might well be in for a long nomination campaign, especially since he is likely win New Hampshire as well. If that happens, as a neutral observer, I would recommend to those who favor Sec. Clinton to come up with something different than arguing that Sanders, and the policies he supports, are unrealistic and impossible. After all, by definition, something that is unrealistic and impossible shouldn't be actually happening.
Sec. Clinton could still win Iowa on Monday. Doing so would, I believe, make her an extremely heavy favorite to win the nomination. So maybe this argument will prove effective after all--or at least prove to have been good enough, even if it wasn't great.
However, if Sen. Sanders wins, we might well be in for a long nomination campaign, especially since he is likely win New Hampshire as well. If that happens, as a neutral observer, I would recommend to those who favor Sec. Clinton to come up with something different than arguing that Sanders, and the policies he supports, are unrealistic and impossible. After all, by definition, something that is unrealistic and impossible shouldn't be actually happening.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/01/29/1476879/-Here-is-the-reason-why-the-main-argument-against-Bernie-Sanders-isn-t-working?detail=facebook
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Why these anti-Bernie arguments fail (Original Post)
Bubzer
Jan 2016
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libdem4life
(13,877 posts)1. While not forgetting these used to be standard Democratic Party values.
Some of us still remember.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)2. I for one remember.
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)3. We were the Give Away Party...now we're the Give Me Party.
TDale313
(7,820 posts)4. The fierce audacity of "Nope"
Not a winning or inspiring message IMO. But I suppose it is bold, particularly from a Democrat.