Op-Ed from Ralph Nader attacking Hillary and the Democratic Party

[Cali_Democrat]

and posted right before the Iowa Caucuses?

Intersting.

Now....I'm not exactly calling Ralph Nader a rat fucker, but the timing is interesting nonetheless!

[Duckhunter935]

1. link?

She thinks anything said not praising and endorsing is an attack.

[Cali_Democrat]

4. Sure

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511094383

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511094760

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1280104415

[awake]

2. Care to post a link?

[Cali_Democrat]

5. Posted upthread. nt

[cali]

3. Who cares? Not Iowans, I'm sure. Not very many people anywhere.

He's irrelevant now.

[Jarqui]

6. Who the f**k does he think he is doing using the first amendment

in the wake of editorials at the New York Times and Washington Post bought for us by the ever generous receiver of BIG corporate handouts, the Clintons!!

The Dynastic Hillary Bandwagon – Bad for America
November 8, 2013
https://www.facebook.com/ralphnader/posts/655557721141830

The Hillary Clinton for President in 2016 bandwagon has started very early and with a purpose. The idea is to get large numbers of endorsers, so that no Democratic Primary competitors dare make a move. These supporters include Senator Chuck Schumer (D-NY), financier George Soros and Ready for Hillary, a super PAC mobilizing with great specificity (already in Iowa).
....
A Clinton Coronation two years or more before the 2016 elections will stifle any broader choice of competitive primary candidates and more important a more progressive agenda supported by a majority of the American people.
Full Medicare for all, cracking down on corporate abuses, a fairer tax system, a broad public works program, a living wage, access to justice and citizen empowerment, clean election practices, and pulling back on the expensive, boomeranging Empire to come home to America’s necessities and legitimate hopes are some examples of what the people want.
....
Apparently, ..., she’s being seen as part of the old Washington crowd that voters are souring on.
..., not voting for her is the prudent decision.

Ralph has been on to Hillary for quite some time - the above was 2 years ago.

Hillary’s Corporate Democrats Taking Down Bernie Sanders
https://www.facebook.com/ralphnader/posts/1091967140834217

Sorry Bernie, because anybody who challenges the positions of the corporatist, militaristic, Wall Street-funded Democrats, led by Hillary Clinton, in the House and Senate—is by their twisted definition, a “spoiler.” It doesn’t matter how many of Bernie’s positions are representative of what a majority of the American people want for their country.

What comes around goes around. Despite running a clean campaign, funded by small donors averaging $27, with no scandals in his past and with consistency throughout his decades of standing up for the working and unemployed people of this country, Sanders is about to be Hillaried. Her Capitol Hill cronies have dispatched Congressional teams to Iowa.
...
Because Sanders is not prone to self-congratulation, few people know that he receives the highest Senatorial approval rating and the lowest disapproval rating from his Vermonters than any Senator receives from his or her constituents. This peak support for a self-avowed “democratic socialist,” comes from a state once known for its rock-ribbed conservative Republican traditions.
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Pelosi doesn’t expect the Democrats to make gains in the House of Representatives in 2016. But she has managed to hold on to her post long enough to help elect Hillary Clinton—no matter what Clinton’s record as a committed corporatist toady and a disastrous militarist (e.g., Iraq and the War on Libya) has been over the years.
For Pelosi it’s bring on the ‘old girls club,’ it’s our turn. The plutocracy and the oligarchy running this country into the ground have no worries. The genders of the actors are different, but the monied interests maintain their corporate state and hand out their campaign cash—business as usual.

Bernie Sanders, however, does present a moral risk for the corrupt Democratic Party and the Democratic National Committee, which are already turning on one of their own leading candidates. His years in politics so cleanly contrasts with the sordid, scandalized, cashing-in behavior of the Clintons.

Pick up a copy of Peter Schweizer’s "Clinton Cash", previewed early in 2015 by the New York Times. Again and again Schweizer documents the conflicted interest maneuvering of donors to the Clinton Foundation, shady deals involving global corporations and dictators, and huge speaking fees, with the Clinton Foundation and the State department as inventories to benefit the Clintons. The Clintons embody what is sleazy and harmful about corporate political intrigues.

If and when Bernie Sanders is brought down by the very party he is championing, the millions of Bernie supporters, especially young voters, will have to consider breaking off into a new political party that will make American history. That means dissolving the dictatorial two-party duopoly and its ruinous, unpatriotic, democracy-destroying corporate paymasters.

I can't find much I take deep exception to.

[Lil Missy]

7. Fuck Nader

[bigdarryl]

8. Who cares what this old ass hack thinks

[SusanCalvin]

9. I really have no interest in what he has to say about politics. nt

[Persondem]

10. So is it ok if I call him a rat fu**er? Nader used to do useful things like point out

consumer goods that were dangerous. For the last 16 years (2016 - 16=2000, hhmmm....) he has been less than useless.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

11. I agree with his Op-Ed and applaud him for writing it.

[JI7]

14. why doesn't he support sanders ?

[joshcryer]

16. I find his article setting Sanders up for failure.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

18. How so?

[joshcryer]

20. "Sanders is about to be Hillaried"

If and when Bernie Sanders is brought down by the very party he is championing, the millions of Bernie supporters, especially young voters, will have to consider breaking off into a new political party that will make American history. That means dissolving the dictatorial two-party duopoly and its ruinous, unpatriotic, democracy-destroying corporate paymasters.

A competing party to the democrats has been Nader's goal since he helped Bush steal the White House. He speaks to a lot of the faux Sanders supporters who vow not to vote for the nominee if it's Clinton. Putting

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

21. I'm not a faux Sanders supporter and I won't vote for Hillary.

And, I'd love to see another 3rd Party.

[joshcryer]

22. Well, Sanders isn't running third party.

And if he loses he'll stump and support the nominee, and discourage Nader style bullshit.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

23. Fortunately, my ballot comes with more than two choices.

[Bleacher Creature]

12. That guy must really love Republican Presidents.

I hope he just crawls back under his rock and stays there.

[wyldwolf]

13. Prediction: Iowa's status as first in the nation will be ending soon...

[Jim Lane]

24. Why do you think so? What chain of events do you see that changes Iowa's status?

This should perhaps be a separate thread because it's not related to Nader's latest attempt to put his name before the public.

[JI7]

15. This hurts Sanders more than Hillary

Since most of the party didn't like him .

[joshcryer]

17. I agree.

He's also using pretzel logic with regards to people, uh, you know, stumping.

[workinclasszero]

19. Ralph must still be working for the

Republican party.

That pos gave us 8 years of republican hell with Bush boy.