2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumHmm I wonder who Goldman Sachs and Citigroup are endorsing?
I guess we won't be getting campaign finance reform anytime soon under this candidate.
Hillary Clinton Top Contributors
https://www.opensecrets.org/politicians/contrib.php?cid=N00000019&cycle=Career
Clintons's $200,000 an Hour Pay From Goldman Sachs is Nothing to Laugh At
01/25/2016
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/miles-mogulescu/clintonss-200000-an-hour_b_9069720.html
Goldman Sachs -- the investment bank that was so instrumental in causing the greatest economic collapse since the Great Depression -- pays Hillary Clinton $200,000 an hour or more to speak to their executives and investors. (The median income for an American family is $52,259 a year.)
What do Hillary and the Wall Street bank discuss that's worth over $200,000 an hour? And what does Goldman Sachs, and other Wall Street firms who have paid Hillary $2.5 million in the past two years, expect in return?
...Democratic voters, who are concerned about the undue power of Wall Street over the economy and the government, might think twice about how seriously to take Clinton's campaign promises to reign in Wall Street, particularly in light of her opposition to Elizabeth Warren's bill to reinstate a modern-day Glass Steagall Act, after it was repealed by Bill Clinton.
...(They might also wonder whether Hillary's increasingly belligerent attacks against replacing private insurance with Medicare-For-All -- not just in short-term grounds of political feasibility but on long-term grounds that it's not right for America -- has anything to do with the $5 million in speaking fees she and Bill have received from the medical-industrial complex over the past two years.)
orpupilofnature57
(15,472 posts)those who help the oligarchy by defending the casuistry's that rationalize Misanthropy for Profit, Entitlement from law and taxes .
Cleita
(75,480 posts)Cleita
(75,480 posts)TIME TO PANIC
(1,894 posts)mhatrw
(10,786 posts)Wait. No, I don't.
BillZBubb
(10,650 posts)But they will pour much more money into the republican candidate who will do their bidding. They've gotta hedge their bets.
pandr32
(11,586 posts)Apples and oranges. HC's political contributions actually come from their employees...workers...you know, the ones that count according to many here who slam many of HC's endorsements.
HC's speaking fees are an entirely different matter--much of what she is paid goes to the Clinton Foundation to fund their causes. Aside from the discredited media stories that allege that the Clinton Foundation is shady--it isn't, it does much needed work to help people and communities all over the globe.
https://www.clintonfoundation.org/
islandmkl
(5,275 posts)who are coming up with $200K because they are dying to hear what she has to say...
pandr32
(11,586 posts)I thought I made it clear...the campaign contributions and speaking fees are completely separate. The speaking fees help fund the Clinton Foundation and its causes...not HC's campaign.
Bubzer
(4,211 posts)It shows she's interested in gaming the system... not fixing it.
If those sources are accurate, that presents a new and potentially more threatening chapter for the former first lady. Why? Because generally speaking, an alleged conflict of interest like this more clearly violates federal law (as opposed to the fuzzy rules on public/private emails) and is easier to prove if investigators have the goods.
http://www.mediaite.com/online/if-clinton-foundation-is-now-subject-of-investigation-that-could-be-bad-legal-news-for-hillary/
fwiff
(233 posts)Business as usual.
A lot of us disagree with that style of 'helping'.
And no, it's not "apples and oranges". It's still quid pro quo, as it was when she was SOS.
paleotn
(17,920 posts)...you're certainly entitled.
pandr32
(11,586 posts)The info is there for you if you care to research it.
paleotn
(17,920 posts)...but that's not the point. The point is the Clinton's are in bed with people and organizations that don't give away huge amounts of money with no intention of quid pro quo, period.
And your comment about Goldman Sachs employees being hard workin' almost blue collar? Well, the janitorial, clerical and security staffs possibly. But those are all outsourced, right? Then again, maybe it is hard work peddling CDOs while shorting the mortgage market. Churning client accounts to maximize commissions. Focusing clients on investments, while proprietary funds are going the opposite direction. And there's that whole getting Greece in the EU deal. They make ungodly amounts of money simply moving money from left pocket to right pocket, while the benefit to society is virtual nil. They don't contribute. They invest and purchase. Right now, they have a sizable position in HRC.....oh,sorry...political "contributions." Yea, right. Uh huh.
libodem
(19,288 posts)Completely stumped here?
SoapBox
(18,791 posts)No...More...Clintons.
CharlotteVale
(2,717 posts)EndElectoral
(4,213 posts)paleotn
(17,920 posts)pandr32
(11,586 posts)But what the heck...just as long as you throw in a few punches...right? All is fair in a "political revolution."
paleotn
(17,920 posts)...of course not! What was I thinking?! And the Clinton's certainly don't trade in the only real commodity they own. Of course not. Gargantuan amounts of money change hands with absolutely no strings attached. You go right on believing that, if it makes you feel good.
stonecutter357
(12,697 posts)paleotn
(17,920 posts)Democratic or Republican. That's whats destroying our democracy. It's called buying influence at the expense of what our political leadership is SUPPOSED TO BE FUCKING DOING!!! Jesus H., freaking Christ! I can't believe an actual Democrat is happy about the huge amounts of corporate money in politics, because it's mainly going to buy Democrats.
stonecutter357
(12,697 posts)Is a long way from, happy about the huge amounts of corporate money in politics.
paleotn
(17,920 posts)...as long as they're buying Democratic politicians. That's absolutely, fucking insane. No wonder you support Hill.
SoLeftIAmRight
(4,883 posts)...
amborin
(16,631 posts)John Poet
(2,510 posts).
gyroscope
(1,443 posts)Everyone knows which candidate is and is not.
That is why HRC cannot win in the general, she is not likable and no one believes anything she says.