2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumBREAKING: Hillary Clinton Put Spies’ Lives at Risk
It's not the 'nothing-burger' Clinton allies have tried to portray -- lives are literally at stake
By John R. Schindler 02/01/16 1:00pm
http://observer.com/2016/02/breaking-hillary-clinton-put-spies-lives-at-risk/
For months youve read about EmailGate in this column. Ive elaborated how Hillary Clinton, the apparent Democratic frontrunner for President this year, put large amounts of classified information at grave risk through slipshod security practices by herself and her staff. Now that scandal has taken a significant turn for the more ominous.
Last Friday afternoon the State Departments latest court-mandated release of Hillary Clintons emails from when she was Secretary of State caused a new political firestorm. While many more emails were released by Foggy Bottom, some with redactions due to classified materials they contained, twenty-two emails totaling thirty-seven pages of text were withheld entirely at the request of the Intelligence Community. Those twenty-two emails, deemed unclassified by Ms. Clinton and her staff, were judged to be Top Secret in reality.
Since Top Secret is the U.S. Governments highest official classification level, this revelation exploded months of denials from the Clinton presidential campaign that Hillary had done no wrong. The Federal government defines Top Secret materials as information, the unauthorized disclosure of which reasonably could be expected to cause exceptionally grave damage to the national security. The disclosure of Top Secret information is a serious criminal matter that normal Americans face prosecution and substantial jail time for perpetrating.
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And what about those 30,000 emails that Ms. Clinton had deleted? Ill spend the rest of my career trying to figure out what classified information was in those, stated an exasperated Pentagon counterintelligence official, everybody is mad as hell right now. The worst part, the counterspy added, is that Moscow and Beijing have that information but the Intelligence Community maybe never will.
(John Schindler is a security expert and former National Security Agency analyst and counterintelligence officer. A specialist in espionage and terrorism, he's also been a Navy officer and a War College professor. )
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Agschmid
(28,749 posts)bigwillq
(72,790 posts)That's cool.
ejbr
(5,856 posts)I just put the brief bio available on the site above or:
John Schindler is a security expert and former National Security Agency analyst and counterintelligence officer. A specialist in espionage and terrorism, he's also been a Navy officer and a War College professor.
randys1
(16,286 posts)riversedge
(70,282 posts)1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)despite those judgments conflicting with National Security experts judgment on the topic; but, that is enough to post to DU, and get plenty of recs.
GusBob
(7,286 posts)VMA131Marine
(4,145 posts)a paper owned and published by the son-in-law of Donald Trump. Really!
This isn't a story either. It's an opinion piece without a single named attribution other than to a Fox News Story. It's a load of bollocks!
ejbr
(5,856 posts)It was linked to Yahoo, and his credentials seem to be adequate
VMA131Marine
(4,145 posts)ejbr
(5,856 posts)emulatorloo
(44,171 posts)Bernie doesn't need right wing hacks to win.
ejbr
(5,856 posts)but the story is out there. The only push back other than the source is that she is not in legal jeopardy, no comments on her continuous poor judgment.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Clinton is putting American lives at risk. What shady shit and something the right throws at democrats every single election season.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)The really messed up part is that this directly echoes right wing smears on the Clintons for decades. There is simply nothing there with the emails so they have to spin it. The rights favorite way to do so is to point at deems and say they are weak or are putting American lives at risk.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)Autumn
(45,120 posts)that seems to be fine and worthy of a rec and no complaint.
salib
(2,116 posts)The e-mails' content WAS NOT CONSIDERED CLASSIFIED at the time they were sent.
Classification changes. That does not make those who touched it before guilty of anything.
ejbr
(5,856 posts)but her unauthorized set-up could do damage whether she was ignorant of the importance of the emails or not. Poor judgment, like Iraq
salib
(2,116 posts)So, if someone designates information that you passed along as not classified. Was it poor judgement on your part to pass it along?
Then, someone in Gov't decides that it is actually top secret. Are you saying that you had bad judgement retroactively?
We are better than this.
msongs
(67,433 posts)salib
(2,116 posts)And am not a right winger.
Rather insulting generalization.
So, we have disingenuous rumor mongering vs. disingenuous generalizations.
Many might call both slander.
ejbr
(5,856 posts)one could say the same of Clinton supporters...just sayin'
ejbr
(5,856 posts)is not the passing of the information, but of the private email use for state department business. We would not be discussing this if her innocently sending and receiving information was a problem.
Maedhros
(10,007 posts)wyldwolf
(43,869 posts)Mike Nelson
(9,964 posts)...with FOX "News"!
riversedge
(70,282 posts)shameful that Sanders supporters and the vile RW share the same mentality.
Autumn
(45,120 posts)zappaman
(20,606 posts)So informative. I'm just totally glad you posted this, really I am....
alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)ejbr
(5,856 posts)you hurt my fee fees...
DanTex
(20,709 posts)emulatorloo
(44,171 posts)By Doktor Zoom - January 30, 2016 - 12:13pm
http://wonkette.com/598345/hillary-clinton-definitely-going-to-email-jail-this-time-for-sure#kkEfU4SQHKhtkjM7.99
Better call the House Select Committee on Benghazi back into session, because with just days to go before the Iowa caucuses, theres finally some huge shocking news about Hillary Clinton and all the Top Secret emails on her private server, which as everyone knows is the one issue that Americans simply cant seem to stop talking about, at least after theyve exhausted talking about the weather, sportsball, television, movies, their children, cat videos they saw on YouTube, and whether this milk is giving their coffee that funny taste. The carton says its not expired yet, but it might be a little off. Here, smell it, what do you think? And then right after that, Hillarys emails.
What happened was that before releasing Januarys monthly stash of emails Friday, the State Department announced that it was withholding 22 of the emails because they contained information that has been reclassified as Top Secret, although State Department spokesman John Kirby pointed out that these documents were not marked classified at the time they were sent. Its also not clear whether the newly reclassified emails were sent by Clinton, or had been sent to her by other State Department staff; the New York Times notes that the bulk of emails released from Clintons server so far were messages written by other State Department officials and forwarded by her closest aides.
Still, they were on her private server, and theyre now marked classified, so the only logical conclusion is that Hillary Clinton is a spy. Be careful, her bowtie is really a camera.
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So anyway, Hillz, it was nice knowing you, bummer about how this HUGE SCANDAL will finally murder your campaign just like you personally strangled Vince Foster while not declaring your tax losses on Whitewater and planning the attack on Benghazi. Maybe if youre lucky, you really will get another 11 hours of grilling from House Republicans, seeing as how that made you look great last time.
<Much more at link>
blm
(113,083 posts).
senz
(11,945 posts)If it's true, it doesn't look good for Clinton.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Autumn
(45,120 posts)Festivito
(13,452 posts)Nor were they classified when she may have sent them.
Carefully word everything to make it sound bad bad bad. (Even though you know it was not bad at all!)
Remind that it is a criminal matter.... even though that would not apply to someone who only handled it before it was classified.
Remind that people's lives could be at risk ... even though the chances of that are nil and even if it was it was SOMEONE ELSE'S MISTAKE.
Then wait and re-post it as though no one ever said a thing about it.
We should give her the benefit of the doubt about the 30,000 deleted emails because... Hillary or something. Got it.