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Tactical Error by Bernie Campaign (Original Post) itsrobert Feb 2016 OP
Bernie isn't going to give a speech until the results are final. The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2016 #1
Results are not final itsrobert Feb 2016 #11
Oops Stuckinthebush Feb 2016 #34
Doesn't matter. Bernie has the momentum coming out of this. n/t Avalux Feb 2016 #2
Indeed. Dawson Leery Feb 2016 #3
Hillary fucked up and bad by declaring victory before an independent verification berni_mccoy Feb 2016 #4
Independent verification? Cali_Democrat Feb 2016 #9
You know... Numbers and votes. berni_mccoy Feb 2016 #12
The Iowa Democratic Party is currently tallying the numbers. Cali_Democrat Feb 2016 #14
She didn't declare victory. Someone on her campaign did, which was probably a mistake Empowerer Feb 2016 #27
Bernie has made a number of possibly fatal redstateblues Feb 2016 #5
He had better scramble to get a foreign policy adviser before oasis Feb 2016 #23
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2016 #35
American political types will check final numbers in the morning NightWatcher Feb 2016 #6
Actually, I was thinking tactically smart of Clinton to get her speech in at 11:30. brooklynite Feb 2016 #7
Won't matter a whit by 12 noon tomorrow jomin41 Feb 2016 #8
Only diehards are watching any of these speeches live DefenseLawyer Feb 2016 #10
There's this wonderful thing called "video". winter is coming Feb 2016 #13
I know DVRacer Feb 2016 #18
Yeah. Thats what I was thinking. Clips will play for days. Bernard was on fire. dinkytron Feb 2016 #24
only the east coast. Motown_Johnny Feb 2016 #15
To night is a carnival for people into elections. HereSince1628 Feb 2016 #16
I disagree. It ain't over yet. She was in bad form NowSam Feb 2016 #17
people are never going to watch the news again ? JI7 Feb 2016 #19
Sure, people are too stupid to recognize a virtual tie when they see it. Live and Learn Feb 2016 #20
Would you like a straw to grasp at?? Fearless Feb 2016 #21
It's not even 9pm out west. cyberswede Feb 2016 #22
Actually, I'm a "diehard nothing," and I was able to watch both speeches. ScreamingMeemie Feb 2016 #25
If you're on DU DefenseLawyer Feb 2016 #30
My dad's GF watched them both, and she's a karaoke singing nurse who's always voted GOP. ScreamingMeemie Feb 2016 #33
thats it folks, this post sealed it for HRC's campaign. lets close up shop. Iggy Knorr Feb 2016 #26
It was a great speech, too bad you missed it -- NBC still not calling it Samantha Feb 2016 #28
If Sanders ends up winning the big headline will be about Hillary prematurely declaring victory. Quixote1818 Feb 2016 #29
Fantastic speech by Bernie Sanders! bigwillq Feb 2016 #31
Well, Left Coast America is not going to bed KamaAina Feb 2016 #32
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2016 #36
This was a loss for HRH, whether she wants to declare herself queen or not. Bernie's up +31 in NH! in_cog_ni_to Feb 2016 #37

Empowerer

(3,900 posts)
27. She didn't declare victory. Someone on her campaign did, which was probably a mistake
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 01:07 AM
Feb 2016

But she didn't mention winning in her speech, which was not a victory speech.

Response to redstateblues (Reply #5)

winter is coming

(11,785 posts)
13. There's this wonderful thing called "video".
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 12:48 AM
Feb 2016

Not only will people be able to see Sanders give a victory speech if he wins, they'll be able to see Clinton claim a victory long before the race was decided. Over and over and over again. She truly is her own worst enemy.

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
16. To night is a carnival for people into elections.
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 12:49 AM
Feb 2016

Maybe east-coasters are in bed but the rest of the country is enthralled with how tight this is.

NowSam

(1,252 posts)
17. I disagree. It ain't over yet. She was in bad form
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 12:50 AM
Feb 2016

To declare victory before it was over and then make a speech? Maybe in the morning she will rethink that strategy. Bad form.

 

DefenseLawyer

(11,101 posts)
30. If you're on DU
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 01:09 AM
Feb 2016

You are by definition more in tune to politics than the vast majority of your fellow citizens, who I assure you are not watching these speeches.

ScreamingMeemie

(68,918 posts)
33. My dad's GF watched them both, and she's a karaoke singing nurse who's always voted GOP.
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 01:11 AM
Feb 2016

I'm calling out the "tactical error" as a bit silly.

Samantha

(9,314 posts)
28. It was a great speech, too bad you missed it -- NBC still not calling it
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 01:08 AM
Feb 2016

Very unlikely they will announce a victor tonight.

Sam

Quixote1818

(28,955 posts)
29. If Sanders ends up winning the big headline will be about Hillary prematurely declaring victory.
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 01:08 AM
Feb 2016

It could be similar to Bush declaring victory in Iraq prematurely.

Response to itsrobert (Original post)

in_cog_ni_to

(41,600 posts)
37. This was a loss for HRH, whether she wants to declare herself queen or not. Bernie's up +31 in NH!
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 01:29 AM
Feb 2016

It's his. A tie in Iowa and a huge win in NH, is nothing but bad news for HRH.

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