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Thenewire

(130 posts)
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 12:57 AM Feb 2016

Sanders is a trojan horse

Whose unrealistic points of view will usher in a new era of right wingers in power. All over delusional ideas that could never be accomplished in the first place Sanders supporters will end up destroying every bit of progressive accomplishment over the last decade. Is self glorification more important to the Sanders supporter than actually winning? I'm certain that a good majority of them know that he has absolutely no chance of winning. I certainly hope I am wrong but if I'm not you should be beyond ashamed of yourselves for aiding to the election of Trump/Cruz/Rubio who will without a doubt destroy the environment, end the ACA, and pack the supreme court with even more conservatives.

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Sanders is a trojan horse (Original Post) Thenewire Feb 2016 OP
Go back to sleep, Larry. You're drunk. Flying Phoenix Feb 2016 #1
Flying Phoenix, sit next to me, darling. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA! roguevalley Feb 2016 #33
This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Feb 2016 #35
Welcome to my Forever Ignored club. nt valerief Feb 2016 #2
Welcome back n/t arcane1 Feb 2016 #3
What a heaping pile of taurine metabolic byproducts. hobbit709 Feb 2016 #4
With a generous portion of porcine metabolic byproducts Art_from_Ark Feb 2016 #34
OK. n/t TCJ70 Feb 2016 #5
I'm sorry you're having a bad night. The first step to feeling better is to stop being afraid. n/t Avalux Feb 2016 #6
lol BlindTiresias Feb 2016 #7
Is that you Rahm? yourout Feb 2016 #8
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2016 #9
The national polls prove that HRC isn't the only Dem who can win. Ken Burch Feb 2016 #10
Are you finished? nt Earth_First Feb 2016 #11
Oh. Fuck that noise. cali Feb 2016 #12
Put the bong down and step away from it slowly. The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2016 #13
Be cool man Glamrock Feb 2016 #32
Did you forget the sarcasm thingie? nt SusanCalvin Feb 2016 #14
Hello Comrade! neverforget Feb 2016 #15
I take it you're voting Republican, then? (eom) HassleCat Feb 2016 #16
Hillary's campaign mgr is posting on DU? Roland99 Feb 2016 #17
We're all DOOOOOMED! beam me up scottie Feb 2016 #18
This Hillary supporter says your OP is hogwash! BigGLiberal Feb 2016 #19
Don't alert his post! JRLeft Feb 2016 #20
Too late. nt ChisolmTrailDem Feb 2016 #25
. NRaleighLiberal Feb 2016 #21
Derp derp derp Ron Green Feb 2016 #22
Are you kidding? did you forget your :sarcasm: smilie? 99th_Monkey Feb 2016 #23
Reading member profiles is interesting. 115 posts since 2012, 108 in the last 90 days. ladyVet Feb 2016 #50
Well bless your heart. It's good you feel so positive about things. Autumn Feb 2016 #24
Thank you for your concern. Odin2005 Feb 2016 #26
Hercules can re-route rivers to clean saltpoint Feb 2016 #27
you seem tense. Warren DeMontague Feb 2016 #28
Is that a cut/paste from the Onion? Indepatriot Feb 2016 #29
I could say the same stuff to you dana_b Feb 2016 #30
LOL cyberswede Feb 2016 #31
The poutrage is strong in this one. Fearless Feb 2016 #36
We've tried the triangulation and centrist republiclite game... JPnoodleman Feb 2016 #37
So you will bet it all on an old man? Thenewire Feb 2016 #40
you're sickening - and an ageist dana_b Feb 2016 #42
Eh, I died on my feat.... JPnoodleman Feb 2016 #43
It will be a good bet. Bernie's superior judgement will trump all other qualities. immoderate Feb 2016 #45
Wait, "old man"? Don't you mean "old, agnostic, socialist man"? Jim Lane Feb 2016 #49
More of that Team Hillary humility. frylock Feb 2016 #38
you are wrong. watch and see. listen and learn. Hiraeth Feb 2016 #39
This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Feb 2016 #41
"I am certain that a good majority of them know that he has absolutely no chance sadoldgirl Feb 2016 #44
I don't think he is any kind of trojan horse but do agree doc03 Feb 2016 #46
Is this a joke? roody Feb 2016 #47
Account status: Flagged for review PowerToThePeople Feb 2016 #48
Good luck with that, and hope you brought your flame suit. Hekate Feb 2016 #51
This message was self-deleted by its author CobaltBlue Feb 2016 #52
Have you ever watched a cat have to dump on a tile floor? Fumesucker Feb 2016 #53
We CANNNNNNNNNNNNNN'T artislife Feb 2016 #54
Your specious reasoning reminds me of that quote: truedelphi Feb 2016 #55
The new ire. With 115 posts. PatrickforO Feb 2016 #56
LOL! merrily Feb 2016 #57
Comedy Post..right? bvar22 Feb 2016 #58

Response to Flying Phoenix (Reply #1)

Response to Thenewire (Original post)

BigGLiberal

(102 posts)
19. This Hillary supporter says your OP is hogwash!
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 01:00 AM
Feb 2016

Bernie and Hillary have a virtual tie in Iowa with Hillary having a slim lead. They can both declare victory and both are fine candidates.

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
23. Are you kidding? did you forget your :sarcasm: smilie?
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 01:01 AM
Feb 2016

Bernie "has absolutely no chance of winning", on the night when he ties Hillarry in Iowa, coming
out of nowhere, funded ONLY by We the People?

Spare me the scare tactics about "electing Trump/Cruz/Rubio" <-- a very outworn canard .. give it up.

ladyVet

(1,587 posts)
50. Reading member profiles is interesting. 115 posts since 2012, 108 in the last 90 days.
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 05:22 AM
Feb 2016

Favorite group is the Hillary Group.

So, yeah, Bernie bad. Bad.

I snorted water out of my nose. Ouch.

saltpoint

(50,986 posts)
27. Hercules can re-route rivers to clean
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 01:01 AM
Feb 2016

the stables, but now and again, there's so much shit piled up not even a river can rinse it away.

But wait, you say. Is that supposed to be an assessment of your post?

Why yes. It is.

dana_b

(11,546 posts)
30. I could say the same stuff to you
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 01:03 AM
Feb 2016

Stop backing a conservative, Wall Street backer, corporatist. Bernie has been shown in many polls to beat the repubs while Hillary has less of a chance to do so. If you would make a moral choice instead of a pragmatic one, Bernie would be elected easily.

"I'm certain that a good majority of them know that she is a corporatist and Wall Street backer. I certainly hope I am wrong but if I'm not you should be beyond ashamed of yourselves for aiding to the election of Trump/Cruz/Rubio who will without a doubt destroy the environment, end the ACA, and pack the supreme court with even more conservatives."

JPnoodleman

(454 posts)
37. We've tried the triangulation and centrist republiclite game...
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 01:07 AM
Feb 2016

Look, the country is hurting, a nation my ancestors have fought and died for since the start is in dire straights and beholden to plutocratic parasites. I am of the opinion that I would rather tell my kids we tried something versus what is obviously not working.

But I'm of the opinion that I'd rather chase a dream and try, than accept the same policies I would have gotten anyway but with a D. checked next to the white house and wonder "Jee I wonder if I could have done better under Bernie."

More over why bother voting at all in that case?

Thenewire

(130 posts)
40. So you will bet it all on an old man?
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 01:10 AM
Feb 2016

This is sickening. You are throwing it all away to make an impossible point. Sanders doesn't have the presence to beat any of the republicans. They will slaughter us if Sanders is nominated.

dana_b

(11,546 posts)
42. you're sickening - and an ageist
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 01:13 AM
Feb 2016

some think that Clinton is an "old woman". Stop with the insults.

JPnoodleman

(454 posts)
43. Eh, I died on my feat....
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 01:19 AM
Feb 2016

They will slaughter us if its Hillary.

And why if faced with a Democrat and a Republican, both of whom support TTP TTIP ect.... both of whom will assuredly ruin the country so many for-bearers of mine worked hard to build. Maybe I just think I am obligated by the weight of history to at least try something.

 

immoderate

(20,885 posts)
45. It will be a good bet. Bernie's superior judgement will trump all other qualities.
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 01:27 AM
Feb 2016

[font size=+2]Superior judgement![/font]

The only qualification for president.

--imm

(Pun not intended.)

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
49. Wait, "old man"? Don't you mean "old, agnostic, socialist man"?
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 02:06 AM
Feb 2016

As per this other example of your fine contribution to our political discourse.

Response to Thenewire (Original post)

sadoldgirl

(3,431 posts)
44. "I am certain that a good majority of them know that he has absolutely no chance
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 01:20 AM
Feb 2016

of winning.I certainly hope I am wrong."

!) You don't hope for that at all judging by your previous
statements on this board.

2) It is becoming now clear that a good percentage of
the dems are not willing to go with the status quo,
which HRC represents.

3) If the party continues this way of not listening to
the people, it will lose a good percentage of dems.

4)That won't bother you, because you don't want them
to be heard, but rather be happy to accuse them, when
HRC wil lose the GE.

doc03

(35,361 posts)
46. I don't think he is any kind of trojan horse but do agree
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 01:28 AM
Feb 2016

he has no chance of winning a general election.

Response to Thenewire (Original post)

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
53. Have you ever watched a cat have to dump on a tile floor?
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 05:30 AM
Feb 2016

They go crazy trying to cover it up.

Scratch scratch..

 

artislife

(9,497 posts)
54. We CANNNNNNNNNNNNNN'T
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 05:31 AM
Feb 2016

Cuz it's too haaaaaaaaarrrrrrrddddddddd.

What do you think American is anyway? Exceptional? Wow, are you ditzy to think we could do anything that amazing.

truedelphi

(32,324 posts)
55. Your specious reasoning reminds me of that quote:
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 05:43 AM
Feb 2016

The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.

Edmund Burke

I mean, c'mon, why can't we hope to install a President who is something other than a puppet for the Big Banking, Big Military and Big Pharma interests?


PatrickforO

(14,586 posts)
56. The new ire. With 115 posts.
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 05:43 AM
Feb 2016

"America is great because America is good, and if America ever ceases to be good, America will cease to be great."

Around 1980, with the so-called Reagan revolution, America began to cease to be good. It went on ceasing to be good through Reagan, H.W. Bush, Bill Clinton and George W. Bush. By the time Obama inherited to reins of government, this country was no longer good at anything but killing lots of people really fast, fouling the earth upon which we live and depend, and enriching a few billionaires.

In fact, America has become a giant engine for enriching the few at the expense of the many.

Bernie's viewpoints are not unrealistic, because when millions adopt such viewpoints, we get back on the path to being 'good.'

I'm even going to give you the benefit of the doubt and treat you as a fellow progressive. The American people are fed up and profoundly tired of being told we cannot use OUR tax dollars that WE pay in for programs that actually help US. Instead we are told we need to fund a forever war meant to enrich the MIC more than anything else, and just suck it up and watch our jobs be offshored and get nickel and dimed to death by predatory capitalists.

Unrealistic? I think not.

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