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bluestateguy

(44,173 posts)
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 04:26 AM Feb 2016

It was very, very close, but it appears that Hillary has won

99.9% of precincts reporting
700 state delegates for Hillary, 695 for Sanders
28 national delegates for Hillary, 21 for Sanders

I commend Bernie Sanders for his hard-fought campaign.

He will likely win New Hampshire.

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It was very, very close, but it appears that Hillary has won (Original Post) bluestateguy Feb 2016 OP
This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Feb 2016 #1
It is the delegate count which counts. Thinkingabout Feb 2016 #2
Those 5 state delegates are a difference of the 6 coin tosses that Hillary won. w4rma Feb 2016 #3
I concur. joshcryer Feb 2016 #9
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2016 #4
+10,000 They know it but won't admit it. nt Live and Learn Feb 2016 #7
K AND R! JaneyVee Feb 2016 #5
How can there be a precinct delegate difference of John Poet Feb 2016 #6
+10,000 nt Live and Learn Feb 2016 #8
There are 8 super delegates. 4 had endorsed Hillary, so their numbers are included pnwmom Feb 2016 #11
Spin! Spin, spin, spin! longship Feb 2016 #10

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w4rma

(31,700 posts)
3. Those 5 state delegates are a difference of the 6 coin tosses that Hillary won.
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 04:41 AM
Feb 2016

The delegates will be 22 to 22, in the end.

Response to bluestateguy (Original post)

 

John Poet

(2,510 posts)
6. How can there be a precinct delegate difference of
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 04:51 AM
Feb 2016

only 5 out of nearly 1,400-- 700 to 695-- a difference of a tiny fraction of one percent,

but with a national delegate distribution of 28 to 21?!

That doesn't seem quite fair, does it?

Is it because of geographic distribution?

I am not willing to concede a "victory" from voters to Hillary on the basis
of a statistical aberration, which is all the difference in precinct delegates amounts to...

The Hillary campaign is free to claim they've "won more delegates",
but I wouldn't call it "won fair and square". This is more like a gerrymandered result.

The precinct delegate count is a mere statistical aberration. There's no "margin of victory" there whatsoever. If we had the raw vote totals, it might well show a Sanders victory,
hidden because of that same geographical distribution.

At any rate, this result won't be certified by the state party for a while,
and until that time, it is just so much hot air.

Bernie won a moral victory here by campaigning to a virtual draw
with Hillary, the 800-pound establishment gorilla,
who took her campaign straight into the SEWER,
and still couldn't manage a statistically significant victory.

pnwmom

(108,990 posts)
11. There are 8 super delegates. 4 had endorsed Hillary, so their numbers are included
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 06:11 AM
Feb 2016

in her 28.

The other 4 were uncommitted.

longship

(40,416 posts)
10. Spin! Spin, spin, spin!
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 06:08 AM
Feb 2016

Only a Warner Bros. Tazmanian Devil could spin faster.

Here, witness yourself, and see the destruction that ensues:



That what spin does.

The Iowa caucuses were a tie. Any other way to paint it is either abject delusion, or Tazmanian Devil worthy spin. In other words, utter rubbish.

Keep playing, however. It won't work, though.

Best regards merely on the basis of the hubris of your attempt.

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