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Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 02:40 PM Feb 2016

BREAKING: HILLARY CLINTON DECLARED THE WINNER IN IOWA!

Congrats, Hillary!











Hillary Clinton Has Won Iowa Caucuses, A.P. Says

DES MOINES — Hillary Clinton was declared the winner of the Iowa caucuses on Tuesday after final vote counts showed her narrowly beating Senator Bernie Sanders of Vermont, according to The Associated Press and other news organizations.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/03/us/politics/hillary-clinton-declared-winner-of-iowa-caucuses.html?_r=0

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BREAKING: HILLARY CLINTON DECLARED THE WINNER IN IOWA! (Original Post) Cali_Democrat Feb 2016 OP
WOOHOO! Congrats Hillary for a well deserved WIN!! MoonRiver Feb 2016 #1
She isn't smiling like that in private...but I am. virtualobserver Feb 2016 #2
She has shown a masterful ability to win coin tosses Bjorn Against Feb 2016 #3
As has been explained here repeatedly, those coin tosses didn't amount to beans. PeaceNikki Feb 2016 #8
Last I saw if the coin tosses had gone the other way Bernie would have had more delegates Bjorn Against Feb 2016 #16
They were county delegates which are worth a fraction of a state delegate. PeaceNikki Feb 2016 #30
My understanding is that there is still one state delegate left to be awarded though Bjorn Against Feb 2016 #32
Here: PeaceNikki Feb 2016 #37
Whoever said that was wrong.... George II Feb 2016 #67
You may want to read this........... George II Feb 2016 #66
Congratulations, Hillary! grossproffit Feb 2016 #4
That pic sums her up. Nt Logical Feb 2016 #5
Lol. cali Feb 2016 #6
Yes, I don't get the celebrations mvd Feb 2016 #13
It's about redefining "winning" Ned_Devine Feb 2016 #29
Lol. George II Feb 2016 #68
this helps her more than if it was announced yesterday JI7 Feb 2016 #7
I knew she would win KingFlorez Feb 2016 #9
Way to go Hillary. Onward to the nomination. Alfresco Feb 2016 #10
From 30 points down, Sanders came within .02 points of winning. panader0 Feb 2016 #11
A huge victory for Hillary that you need John Poet Feb 2016 #18
K&R livetohike Feb 2016 #12
Yep, right after noontime EST AZ Progressive Feb 2016 #14
but,its breaking tho Go Vols Feb 2016 #26
Knew she would be. Starry Messenger Feb 2016 #15
You called those coin flips eh? panader0 Feb 2016 #22
Sour grapes taste great! Starry Messenger Feb 2016 #23
No sour grapes here. I'm thrilled by Bernie's performance. panader0 Feb 2016 #25
Well, he'll probably get New Hampshire, so you've got that to look forward to too. Starry Messenger Feb 2016 #27
He started out 30 points back--is that polling pretty close? panader0 Feb 2016 #31
For the past several months, he's been polling pretty close. Starry Messenger Feb 2016 #34
Sad to say jkbRN Feb 2016 #17
Congrats on your 1 delegate win SheenaR Feb 2016 #19
She looks angry and loud. randome Feb 2016 #20
Considering all the shit that was dumped on her just a few days before the primary, I'm happy. SunSeeker Feb 2016 #21
Gafaaw!!! pangaia Feb 2016 #38
Congratulations, Hillary!!!! Beacool Feb 2016 #24
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2016 #28
Congrats! onehandle Feb 2016 #33
lol 10 years of prep and she 'wins' by less then 1% bowens43 Feb 2016 #35
You must have really been worried to be *so* excited over 2/10 of a percent Matariki Feb 2016 #36
Woo-hoo! workinclasszero Feb 2016 #39
K&R! stonecutter357 Feb 2016 #40
. Cali_Democrat Feb 2016 #41
Don't feel too comfortable liberalnarb Feb 2016 #42
At least half of those who participated in the LibDemAlways Feb 2016 #43
Congratulations on not totally choking away a 30-point cushion! frylock Feb 2016 #44
Hillary just became the first woman to win the Iowa Caucus! DesertRat Feb 2016 #45
My interest level in Iowa was about 9%. My interest in NH is even lower. But a win is a win Number23 Feb 2016 #46
Congratulations HRC for eking out the win... modestybl Feb 2016 #47
From the article you cite: ljm2002 Feb 2016 #48
She won by 0.2% and by six coin flips! She is so lucky!!!!!! Betty Karlson Feb 2016 #49
Congratulations Madame Secretary mcar Feb 2016 #50
Congrats on winning 6 coin flips Perogie Feb 2016 #51
you really don't understand the purpose of those coin-flips, do you DrDan Feb 2016 #55
WRONG Bobbie Jo Feb 2016 #59
well-deserved - the first of many DrDan Feb 2016 #52
I found their speeches last night telling Nanjeanne Feb 2016 #53
For the 1st TIME in US History a woman- wins Iowa Caucus! The Force was with Hillary--->V-I-C-T-O-R- riversedge Feb 2016 #54
13 mill spent for a .05% win. From a 30 point lead. Katashi_itto Feb 2016 #56
And after New Hampshire next week...she will be behind! SoapBox Feb 2016 #57
Ok, I going to use this smilie for the first time I can remember ismnotwasm Feb 2016 #58
Hillary for coin flipper in Chief ORjohn Feb 2016 #60
Madame President! pandr32 Feb 2016 #61
Do you hear that? Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2016 #62
She looks so happy in that picture. Hortensis Feb 2016 #63
LMAO basselope Feb 2016 #64
Wonderful! According to the Des Moines Register she gets 23 delegates to Sanders' 21... George II Feb 2016 #65

Bjorn Against

(12,041 posts)
16. Last I saw if the coin tosses had gone the other way Bernie would have had more delegates
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 02:49 PM
Feb 2016

Such a close result in a state she was leading by 30 points a couple months ago is not much of a victory for her.

PeaceNikki

(27,985 posts)
30. They were county delegates which are worth a fraction of a state delegate.
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 03:02 PM
Feb 2016

They didn't amount to much. Even in this tight of a race.

Bjorn Against

(12,041 posts)
32. My understanding is that there is still one state delegate left to be awarded though
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 03:05 PM
Feb 2016

I am not super familiar with the caucus rules, but would those county delegates not have a role in choosing that final state delegate?

PeaceNikki

(27,985 posts)
37. Here:
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 03:09 PM
Feb 2016
http://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/elections/presidential/caucus/2016/02/02/sometimes-iowa-democrats-award-caucus-delegates-coin-flip/79680342/

Similar situations played out at various precincts across the state, but had an extremely small effect on the overall outcome, in which Clinton won 49.9 percent of statewide delegate equivalents, while Sanders won 49.5 percent. The delegates that were decided by coin flips were delegates to the party's county conventions, of which there are thousands selected across the state from 1,681 separate precincts. They were not the statewide delegate equivalents that are reported in the final results.

The statewide delegate equivalents that determine the outcome on caucus night are derived from the county-level delegates, but are aggregated across the state and weighted in a manner that makes individual county delegate selections at a handful of precincts count for a tiny fraction of the ultimate result.

mvd

(65,179 posts)
13. Yes, I don't get the celebrations
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 02:48 PM
Feb 2016

0.3% in a caucus with coin flips? Congrats to both on a good job though.

 

Ned_Devine

(3,146 posts)
29. It's about redefining "winning"
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 03:01 PM
Feb 2016

Very emblematic of the current democratic party situation. We must "win" in November, only to be eventually stonewalled by our own "scared of their own shadow" members of the House and Senate when it comes to bold legislation. Just ask Obama.

panader0

(25,816 posts)
11. From 30 points down, Sanders came within .02 points of winning.
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 02:47 PM
Feb 2016

Yeah Bernie!. And that's not counting the shenanigans documented here on DU by the Hill campaign.
This is a big deal for Bernie. And a big blow for the Hillarians.

panader0

(25,816 posts)
25. No sour grapes here. I'm thrilled by Bernie's performance.
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 02:56 PM
Feb 2016

From down 30 points to .02 points. Fan-fucking-tastic!
Game on Hillarians.

Starry Messenger

(32,342 posts)
27. Well, he'll probably get New Hampshire, so you've got that to look forward to too.
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 03:00 PM
Feb 2016

After that, probably Vermont. But he was polling pretty close in Iowa, so it could have gone either way, but didn't! I'm glad we both have something to celebrate!

panader0

(25,816 posts)
31. He started out 30 points back--is that polling pretty close?
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 03:03 PM
Feb 2016

And when he wins in New Hampshire, it won't be by .02 points or a coin flip.

Starry Messenger

(32,342 posts)
34. For the past several months, he's been polling pretty close.
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 03:05 PM
Feb 2016

When he was down 30 points, he'd barely started running. Obviously he was never going to stay that low, that's silly.

jkbRN

(850 posts)
17. Sad to say
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 02:49 PM
Feb 2016

Hillarys camp doesn't feel like it was a win, because basically, it wasn't.

But there are three reasons why this apparent victory for Clinton feels more like a loss. One, there's already controversy, with the Sanders camp alleging that due to Iowa Democratic Party mismanagement, reports were late coming in from about 90 precincts, per NBC's Danny Freeman. And in an interview with NBC's Kasie Hunt, Sanders didn't rule out challenging the results. Two, winning essentially by one vote (err, five state delegate equivalents) instead of 1 percentage point, denied Clinton the opportunity to use ANY win as momentum heading into New Hampshire, where Sanders enjoys a sizable lead.

And three, if you don't want to take our word for it, here's the attitude inside Clinton Land. "Clinton advisers … said they did not know if a significant staff shakeup was at hand, but they said that the Clintons were disappointed with Monday night's result and wanted to ensure that her organization, political messaging and communications strategy were in better shape for the contests to come," the New York Times writes.



http://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/first-read-why-clinton-s-apparent-iowa-win-feels-more-n509606
 

randome

(34,845 posts)
20. She looks angry and loud.
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 02:52 PM
Feb 2016

[hr][font color="blue"][center]There is nothing you can't do if you put your mind to it.
Nothing.
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SunSeeker

(51,645 posts)
21. Considering all the shit that was dumped on her just a few days before the primary, I'm happy.
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 02:52 PM
Feb 2016

She was down in Iowa just a few weeks ago and managed to climb back and pull out a win. She's a fighter, and so are her supporters!


Beacool

(30,250 posts)
24. Congratulations, Hillary!!!!
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 02:55 PM
Feb 2016

First woman to win the IA caucus.



Also congratulations to Sen. Sanders. It was a well fought and extremely close race.



Response to Cali_Democrat (Original post)

Matariki

(18,775 posts)
36. You must have really been worried to be *so* excited over 2/10 of a percent
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 03:07 PM
Feb 2016

I think South Carolina is going to be a much more significant test.

LibDemAlways

(15,139 posts)
43. At least half of those who participated in the
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 04:08 PM
Feb 2016

caucuses as Democrats (and perhaps more because we don't know the raw vote totals) chose the other guys (including O'Malley supporters, too). This despite Hillary's enormous advantages in terms of money, organization, and endorsements. I would hardly be jumping up and down, and your all caps headline, as though Hillary took it by a landslide, is just obnoxious. For all intents and purposes Iowa was a draw. Now it's on to New Hampshire and let's see what happens there.

 

modestybl

(458 posts)
47. Congratulations HRC for eking out the win...
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 04:37 PM
Feb 2016

... just before the trendlines caught up with you...


http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/2016-iowa-presidential-democratic-caucus


last pollster trend: HRC 47.7
BS 44.6


last night: HRC 49.8
BS 49.6

You guys didn't it coming ...

ljm2002

(10,751 posts)
48. From the article you cite:
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 04:44 PM
Feb 2016
The Iowa results — the closest in the history of the Iowa Democratic caucuses — were far tighter than Mrs. Clinton and her advisers had expected. But her team embraced the result as a significant win given her previous troubles in the state — she came in third place in the 2008 caucuses — and Mr. Sanders’s popularity with many liberals here. (In a poll last month, 43 percent of likely Iowa Democratic caucusgoers described themselves as socialists.) Still, the close margin privately frustrated Mrs. Clinton and former President Bill Clinton, according to advisers, because they had hoped that a strong win would give her much-needed political momentum in New Hampshire, where Mr. Sanders has a solid lead in opinion polls.

Mrs. Clinton quickly sought to capitalize on the skin-of-her-teeth victory, presenting herself as a winner during a rally in New Hampshire on Tuesday morning as she and Mr. Sanders intensified their competition to win the primary there.


Don't know if I'd break out the fireworks just yet. A sparkler or two, certainly. Congrats.
 

Betty Karlson

(7,231 posts)
49. She won by 0.2% and by six coin flips! She is so lucky!!!!!!
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 04:46 PM
Feb 2016

(Lucky, or supported by the establishment. Because she certainly doesn't inspire enthousiasm or votes. She lost the youth votes by 70 percent. Going with her would be a GE disaster that would put 2014 in the shadow.)

Perogie

(687 posts)
51. Congrats on winning 6 coin flips
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 04:54 PM
Feb 2016

That's what it came down to. Not that more people wanted HRC. She just had better luck on the coin flips.


Great job Hillary.
With all your powerful backers and endorsements. All the big money contributors.
The name recognition from running for President since 2006.
Bringing in the big dawg Bill into Iowa.

You won it by a coin toss. I sincerely congratulate HRC on her luck.



Nanjeanne

(4,974 posts)
53. I found their speeches last night telling
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 04:56 PM
Feb 2016

Hillary gave a speech very much like one would expect from someone who is the "winner". And because she touts her experience as the primary reason to vote for her - her speech was all about what "I will do".

Bernie, on the other hand, gave a gracious speech about both his competitors, while pointing out the truth, that the results were a virtual tie - and his speech was all about what "We can do".

riversedge

(70,272 posts)
54. For the 1st TIME in US History a woman- wins Iowa Caucus! The Force was with Hillary--->V-I-C-T-O-R-
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 04:58 PM
Feb 2016

For the 1st TIME in US History a woman- wins Iowa Caucus! The Force was with Hillary--->V-I-C-T-O-R-Y
 

Katashi_itto

(10,175 posts)
56. 13 mill spent for a .05% win. From a 30 point lead.
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 05:05 PM
Feb 2016

And you get 1 delegate. Like Napoleon declaring the Russian campaign a successful victory since they still had troops left.

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
57. And after New Hampshire next week...she will be behind!
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 05:07 PM
Feb 2016

The Annointed One did NOT sweep Iowa!

She didn't even get 50%!

ismnotwasm

(41,998 posts)
58. Ok, I going to use this smilie for the first time I can remember
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 05:08 PM
Feb 2016


Eh, didn't do anything for me.

Congratulations to Hillary Clintion! Let's take her to the White House!

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
63. She looks so happy in that picture.
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 05:33 PM
Feb 2016

I'm glad. It may be a marginal win, but it's a win, and she worked so hard for it.

(I think just one of Hillary's typical days would kill me. Thrown in cold anyway.)

George II

(67,782 posts)
65. Wonderful! According to the Des Moines Register she gets 23 delegates to Sanders' 21...
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 06:15 PM
Feb 2016

...plus at least six Super Delegates.







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