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cali

(114,904 posts)
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 03:53 PM Feb 2016

Like it or not, Bernie is now the most influential Senator

in the Democratic Caucus. He has millions of supporters and hundreds of thousands of activists. There is no other Senator in the Caucus who can come close- including Warren.

And that won't vanish if he doesn't win.

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Like it or not, Bernie is now the most influential Senator (Original Post) cali Feb 2016 OP
That's got to be chapping some asses Autumn Feb 2016 #1
Undoubtedly. cali Feb 2016 #6
OH yeah. He damn sure is. closeupready Feb 2016 #2
People and politicians in DC can no longer say his bills and ideas are not popular with the public. LonePirate Feb 2016 #3
I don't think he will. The democrats really don't want to go there. Autumn Feb 2016 #5
Love it! bettyellen Feb 2016 #4
Oh? What committe does he head? Hortensis Feb 2016 #7
Are you truly that uninformed? cali Feb 2016 #8
Why did no one know of him until now Hortensis Feb 2016 #10
Lol. He's been effective for a long time. cali Feb 2016 #11
don't give air to the kind of spew she's making. It is just spiteful stuff, Cali. Hugs roguevalley Feb 2016 #14
Thank you and cali Feb 2016 #15
Your next question could very well be, "Why does he wear cotton socks?" pangaia Feb 2016 #31
So vote for somebody else. pangaia Feb 2016 #32
^^^THIS^^^ and regarding Bernie's effectiveness--> valerief Feb 2016 #18
+1. n/t Jefferson23 Feb 2016 #21
Thank you, Valerie cali Feb 2016 #24
"But what has he done for me lately?" you can almost here. arcane1 Feb 2016 #27
Jesus that's a resume that prepares him to be president! lostnfound Feb 2016 #41
Could be true, and this is good news for progressives. We just need to win the GE now, DanTex Feb 2016 #9
He reminds me of Ted Kennedy DemocraticWing Feb 2016 #12
On first reading your comment, I went huh? cali Feb 2016 #13
More in terms of ideological influence than personality. DemocraticWing Feb 2016 #16
Most of those people are useless ideologues who aren't willing to fight the long battle. KittyWampus Feb 2016 #17
Boy are you spectacularly wrong. cali Feb 2016 #28
One feature of Iowa Caususes is to identify party volunteers and office holders cyberswede Feb 2016 #30
Are you serious? angrychair Feb 2016 #33
"And that won't vanish if he doesn't win." jomin41 Feb 2016 #19
Makes sense that he founded the Progressive Caucus. He is an inspiration who is only now JonLeibowitz Feb 2016 #20
Just the facts Ma'am. ErikJ Feb 2016 #22
I agree with your statement, overall. I question the understanding of Clinton Jefferson23 Feb 2016 #23
I doubt it. NurseJackie Feb 2016 #25
Ooh, typical nothing burger from you. cali Feb 2016 #26
That means nothing to the other Senators hack89 Feb 2016 #29
Oh yes it does. Witness Elizabeth Warren cali Feb 2016 #35
I have no idea what you are trying to say hack89 Feb 2016 #37
Is that a threat or a challenge? malokvale77 Feb 2016 #39
Statement of fact hack89 Feb 2016 #40
If only he'd joined the Dems sooner.... Blue_Tires Feb 2016 #34
Why? cali Feb 2016 #36
He would have been better placed Blue_Tires Feb 2016 #38

LonePirate

(13,428 posts)
3. People and politicians in DC can no longer say his bills and ideas are not popular with the public.
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 04:30 PM
Feb 2016

Reid would be wise to start forcing debates on Bernie's bills and amendments.

Autumn

(45,120 posts)
5. I don't think he will. The democrats really don't want to go there.
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 04:48 PM
Feb 2016

It's out of their comfort zone.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
7. Oh? What committe does he head?
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 04:49 PM
Feb 2016

Which colleagues are abandoning the moderate ideology their constituents elected them on in order to "follow" the new leader? And why haven't they endorsed him?

I do agree, though, that Bernie has become an extremely prominent voice for his views, rather than an almost completely unknown one, who had to run with the Democratic pack or sit alone, that he was this time last year.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
8. Are you truly that uninformed?
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 05:03 PM
Feb 2016

No dem is a committee chair. But he is the ranking member of the Budget Committee. And actual liberals and progressives have been familiar with Bernie for years.

<snip>

Sanders rose to national prominence following his 2010 filibuster[12][13] against the proposed extension of the Bush tax cuts. Sanders favors policies similar to those of social democratic parties in Europe, particularly those instituted by the Nordic countries.[17] He is a leading progressive voice on issues such as income inequality,[18] universal healthcare, parental leave, climate change,[19] LGBT rights, and campaign finance reform.[20] Sanders has long been critical of U.S. foreign policy and was an early and outspoken opponent of the Iraq War. He is also outspoken on civil rights and civil liberties, and has been particularly critical of racial discrimination in the criminal justice system[21] and mass surveillance policies such as the USA PATRIOT Act[22] and the NSA surveillance programs.[23]

<snip>

Here are his committee assignments:



Committee on the Budget (Ranking Member)
Committee on Environment and Public Works
Subcommittee on Clean Air and Nuclear Safety
Subcommittee on Green Jobs and the New Economy
Subcommittee on Transportation and Infrastructure
Committee on Energy and Natural Resources
Subcommittee on Energy
Subcommittee on National Parks
Subcommittee on Water and Power
Committee on Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions
Subcommittee on Children and Families
Subcommittee on Primary Health and Aging (Ranking Member)
Committee on Veterans' Affairs

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernie_Sanders#2016_presidential_campaign

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
10. Why did no one know of him until now
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 05:09 PM
Feb 2016

if he was so effective? He was not.

He didn't work well with others, so he was never the leader he obviously wanted to be in the Senate. We've had majorities in the House and Senate in the almost quarter century he was there, but he never became one of the powerful committee chairmen. His contribution was almost always voting for legislation written and proposed by others. And that's the simple truth.

You know, Bernie might become a great man. Who knows? He's made an interesting start. But he was not a great man in the Senate, and almost all his colleagues are very worried about what would happen if he had to run against the GOP nominee.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
11. Lol. He's been effective for a long time.
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 05:16 PM
Feb 2016

Don't project your ignorance of him onto everyone.

By the way, Hillary is so well known because she was first lady. And she carpetbagged her way into the Senate where she did jack..

roguevalley

(40,656 posts)
14. don't give air to the kind of spew she's making. It is just spiteful stuff, Cali. Hugs
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 05:41 PM
Feb 2016

to you, my friend.

valerief

(53,235 posts)
18. ^^^THIS^^^ and regarding Bernie's effectiveness-->
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 06:16 PM
Feb 2016
Here are a few examples of the amendments Sanders passed by building unusual but effective coalitions:

Corporate Crime Accountability (February 1995): A Sanders amendment to the Victims Justice Act of 1995 required “offenders who are convicted of fraud and other white-collar crimes to give notice to victims and other persons in cases where there are multiple victims eligible to receive restitution.”

Saving Money, for Colleges and Taxpayers (April 1998): In an amendment to H.R. 6, the Higher Education Amendments of 1998, Sanders made a change to the law that allowed the Fund for the Improvement of Postsecondary Education to make competitive grants available to colleges and universities that cooperated to reduce costs through joint purchases of goods and services.

Holding IRS Accountable, Protecting Pensions (July 2002): Sanders' amendment to the Treasury and General Government Appropriations Act of 2003 stopped the IRS from being able to use funds that “violate current pension age discrimination laws.” Although he faced stiff GOP opposition, his amendment still succeeded along a 308 to 121 vote.

Expanding Free Health Care (November 2001): You wouldn't think Republicans would agree to an expansion of funds for community health centers, which provide some free services. But Sanders was able to win a $100 million increase in funding with an amendment.

Getting Tough On Child Labor (July 2001): A Sanders amendment to the general appropriations bill prohibited the importation of goods made with child labor.

Increasing Funding for Heating for the Poor (September 2004): Sanders won a $22 million increase for the low-income home energy assistance program and related weatherization assistance program.

Fighting Corporate Welfare and Protecting Against Nuclear Disasters (June 2005): A Sanders amendment brought together a bipartisan coalition that outnumbered a bipartisan coalition on the other side to successfully prohibit the Export-Import Bank from providing loans for nuclear projects in China.

Once Sanders made it to the Senate in 2006, his ability to use amendments to advance a progressive agenda was empowered. Here are some of the amendments he passed in the Senate:

Greening the U.S. Government (June 2007): A Sanders amendment made a change to the law so at least 30 percent of the hot water demand in newer federal buildings is provided through solar water heaters.

Protecting Our Troops (October 2007): Sanders used an amendment to win $10 million for operation and maintenance of the Army National Guard, which had been stretched thin and overextended by the war in Iraq.

Restricting the Bailout to Protect U.S. Workers (Feburary 2009): A Sanders amendment required the banking bailout to utilize stricter H-1B hiring standards to ensure bailout funds weren't used to displace American workers.

Helping Veterans' Kids (July 2009): A Sanders amendment required the Comptroller General to put together comprehensive reporting on financial assistance for child care available to parents in the Armed Forces.

Exposing Corruption in the Military-Industrial Complex (November 2012): A Sanders amendment required “public availability of the database of senior Department officials seeking employment with defense contractors” – an important step toward transparency that revealed the corruption of the revolving door in action.

Support for Treating Autism in Military Health Care: Sanders worked with Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand (D-NY) to pass an amendment by a vote of 66-29 ensuring that the military's TRICARE system would be able to treat autism.

http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/bernie-gets-it-done-sanders-record-pushing-through-major-reforms-will-surprise-you
 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
27. "But what has he done for me lately?" you can almost here.
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 07:05 PM
Feb 2016

That "ineffective" talking point has long out-lived its credibility.

lostnfound

(16,189 posts)
41. Jesus that's a resume that prepares him to be president!
Wed Feb 3, 2016, 11:08 AM
Feb 2016

It's a who's who of what's important.
Before someone squeaks about "foreign policy" I'd point out that I'm interesting in electing a President not a King (or Queen) of the Empire. Domestic policy is what we all live with every day.

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
9. Could be true, and this is good news for progressives. We just need to win the GE now,
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 05:04 PM
Feb 2016

and get more Senators and Representatives elected.

Not sure if he's more influential than the leadership, but definitely close.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
13. On first reading your comment, I went huh?
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 05:40 PM
Feb 2016

But on thinking it over, I kind of see what you mean.

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
17. Most of those people are useless ideologues who aren't willing to fight the long battle.
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 06:01 PM
Feb 2016

Witness: Obama getting thrown under the bus almost immediately.

Politics is a never-ending struggle. And most of those who are listening to Sanders expect unicorns by simply showing up to vote for him.

cyberswede

(26,117 posts)
30. One feature of Iowa Caususes is to identify party volunteers and office holders
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 07:19 PM
Feb 2016

In my precinct, several new Bernie people signed up to be Central Committee members, as well as various convention committees (like Platform Committee, etc). New blood is good for us.

I went to my first caucus as a strong lefty (supporting a liberal candidate) and ended up on the Central Committee, then Secretary, and later delegate to the State convention.

What does your state do to engage new people in the process? (I'm genuinely curious...I don't mean for that to sound snarky).

angrychair

(8,732 posts)
33. Are you serious?
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 07:27 PM
Feb 2016

Not sure how to take this. Are you talking about people that support Sanders?
To start, there are very intelligent and politically astute people on this site that take Sanders very seriously and do not believe in political unicorns.

Second, that you would so thoughtlessly discount hundreds of thousands of people and the millions of dollars they have contributed as "expecting unicorns" shows either your ignorance or lack of honest perspective.

That you would so easily insult the intelligence of fellow Democrats is disappointing.

Says a lot more about you than it does them.

JonLeibowitz

(6,282 posts)
20. Makes sense that he founded the Progressive Caucus. He is an inspiration who is only now
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 06:31 PM
Feb 2016

being appreciated.

And you're right cali, he is a leader of a movement. Hills might have to negotiate with him in the unlikely event she wins against a repub. Wouldn't that be a fun meeting to be at.

 

ErikJ

(6,335 posts)
22. Just the facts Ma'am.
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 06:36 PM
Feb 2016

He sticks to the facts, hammering them over and over again even as they try to deflect to personality issues. He's doggedly stibborn.

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
23. I agree with your statement, overall. I question the understanding of Clinton
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 06:42 PM
Feb 2016

supporters commenting in this thread, there seems to me to be a disconnect
as to the type of candidates and legislation he is looking to support vs Clinton.

That division will be healthy, imo and I am encouraged he will continue
to assist voters reaching their goals to build a viable grassroots movement
despite a Clinton administration.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
26. Ooh, typical nothing burger from you.
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 07:04 PM
Feb 2016

Sorry, hon. If you can't see how much influence he now has, you're just being obtuse.

Like it or lump it, there is no Senator with the following he has.

You'll just have to lump it, nurse.

hack89

(39,171 posts)
29. That means nothing to the other Senators
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 07:13 PM
Feb 2016

incumbents are damn near impossible to vote out of office so they are not concerned about all those supporters and activists. And if Sanders uses his supporters and activists to primary incumbent Dems instead of Repukes, standby for a real war.

hack89

(39,171 posts)
37. I have no idea what you are trying to say
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 08:57 PM
Feb 2016

she is a good Senator but her peers certainly do not feel any obligation to change their beliefs to conform to hers.

hack89

(39,171 posts)
40. Statement of fact
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 09:23 PM
Feb 2016

a carpet bagging Independent who thinks he can throw his weight around with long time Dem senators is going to be cut down to size very quickly.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
38. He would have been better placed
Tue Feb 2, 2016, 09:01 PM
Feb 2016

to take advantage of all that newly found influence, millions of supporters and hundreds of thousands of activists??

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