Sanders WON 6 of 7 coin flips - Iowa Democratic Party

[dbackjon]

http://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/elections/presidential/caucus/2016/02/02/iowa-caucus-coin-flip-count-unknown/79708740/

In an unknown number of Iowa Democratic caucus precincts Monday, a county delegate was awarded after the flip of a coin.

Why is the number unknown? Because officials who reported county delegate totals without using the party's smartphone app weren't required to signify if the win was the result of a coin toss, said Sam Lau, a spokesman for the Iowa Democratic Party.

Lau said seven coin flips were reported statewide, and Bernie Sanders won six of them.

[Autumn]

1. So there were 13 coin tosses?

[dbackjon]

2. Unknown number - since they are not required to report that.

But people should stop flipping out over some fake conspiracy.

[liberal_at_heart]

3. What we're flipping out over is this backwards way of deciding delegates. This is embarrassing.

Who the hell decides the fate of the country on a coin flip? If I weren't embarrassed about being an American already which I am I certainly would be now.

[dbackjon]

8. No, that is not what people were flipping out about

"It's a conspiracy"

[liberal_at_heart]

10. okay then. So what do Hillary supporters think about flipping a coin? Should we do that in the

GE? Heads. Hillary or Bernie. Tails. Trump or Cruz. No big deal.

[dbackjon]

19. The General Election is not a caucus

[Fearless]

11. You're making things up.

[dbackjon]

12. Have you read the coin toss threads here and in Late Breaking News?

Not making a single thing up.

[Fearless]

14. Yes you are and yes I have.

[dbackjon]

20. Then you haven't read them. Because they are full of Sanders' supporters

Conspiracy theories.

[Fearless]

22. That's false. And I have read them.

[dbackjon]

24. You must have missed

This Thread

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141334438


or this OP

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511123015


To name a few

[Fearless]

25. Nope sorry. You're still making things up. This is getting embarrassing, just stop.

[dbackjon]

26. For you, maybe. Declaring victory even though you lost...

[stopbush]

4. Cointossgate!!!!

So, it now looks like BERNIE is the one who benefited from the coin tosses...and he still lost.

Dear Bernie supporters: what do you make of that? Are you going to continue to be vehement about these coin tosses if Bernie was the actual beneficiary, not Hillary?

[BlueCaliDem]

6. No. If they follow their usual m.o., they'll excuse it as a WIN for Bernie and a pure one at that!

So don't hold your breath, stopbush.

[Nanjeanne]

5. Said Norm Sterzenbach who would have caucused for Hillary Clinton

... Highly unlikely the coin flips had an impact on the caucuses final outcome, said Norm Sterzenbach, a former executive director of the party who said he would have caucused for Hillary Clinton had he not been occupied with other political responsibilities.

[DanTex]

7. Well this is going to be a problem for the conspiracy theorists.

[NurseJackie]

9. Heads: Hillary wins! Tails: Bernie loses! :-P

[TwilightGardener]

13. I don't actually trust the IDP at this point.

For various reasons, but not least for the fact that they appear to be fairly incompetent.

[liberal_at_heart]

16. They are either corrupt or incompetent. Neither one is acceptable.

[TwilightGardener]

21. Their stories keep changing. They stopped the vote count, told the campaigns

that precinct results were "missing", supposedly some precincts had no one in charge, some had no results reported and they all just went home, some recounting of heads weren't conducted when they were supposed to be and participants left in the middle, now they refuse to do any sort of recount...coin flips which they INSIST had no bearing on anything, oh and by the way Bernie won coin flips too!...the whole thing is fucked up and there appears to be no way to audit the results to ensure fairness. Why were the Repubs competent in IA and the Dems had their heads up their asses? As you say, incompetent or corrupt?

[CajunBlazer]

15. Skinner just debunked "coingate"

[NurseJackie]

23. "Why would he bother debunking it if it weren't TRUE??!!!" :-P

This coingate thing will continue as long as the "believers" think they can get mileage and attention out of it. (Or for as long as they that it's something that can be used to annoy Hillary supporters.)

I think it's pretty hysterical myself. It does no good to argue ... just laugh, click "trash" or click "ignore" and move on.

Super Tuesday is closer than you think, and before long this will all be a memory. (Remember when you thought that Iowa caucus day would never arrive? Well now it's come an gone... whoosh... just like that! Super Tuesday will be here just as quickly!)

Hang in there!

[ALBliberal]

17. There "rules" framed it confusingly. The "winner" of the toss lost the delegate...

Pretty sure I read that somewhere. Very strange indeed.

[CajunBlazer]

27. But not a delegate that figured into the final count that determined the winner

it determined which person in a caucus represented the caucus at the district caucus

[Ino]

28. "a coin shall be tossed to determine who LOSES the delegate"

Sure sounds like "if you win the toss, you lose the delegate"

[SidDithers]

18. LOL...

And all that perfectly good conspiracy posting was for naught.

Thanks for posting.

Sid