2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumPPP: NORTH CAROLINA (TIE)
(Public Policy Polling)
North Carolina:
Obama 48%
Romney 48%
https://twitter.com/ppppolls/status/252586054366932993
http://politicalwire.com/archives/2012/09/30/latest_swing_state_polls.html
oswaldactedalone
(3,491 posts)in today's polls. The "47%" bounce may have maxed out and all the Faux News blabbering about Libya may start to take a toll.
demwing
(16,916 posts)how does a 4 point Obama lead in a state that's a must win for Romney equate to momentum for Mitt?
Mr.Turnip
(645 posts)Obama just dropped by 1 point in both, its the last vestiges of a convention bounce fading.
TroyD
(4,551 posts)As they point out, these 1-point decreases for Obama are within the margin of error, and we need more data before making any conclusions, but it's possible that Obama's poll bump is leveling off.
Mr.Turnip
(645 posts)However Romney hasn't GAINED, Obama doesn't really have momentum anymore but nether does Romney.
Lex
(34,108 posts)is very telling.
SunSeeker
(51,559 posts)Last edited Mon Oct 1, 2012, 12:11 AM - Edit history (1)
BlueStreak
(8,377 posts)OH is slipping away. Romney can't win if OH, MI, and WI are all gone. NC is the least of his concerns.
But it seems the real concern is money. In the past 3 weeks, it appears they have done more fund raiser event than campaign appearances.
Their money is running out. Candidates routinely finish the campaign in the hole, with an unwritten understanding that there will be some follow-on help to get them out of hock. But in this case, Romney will be persona non grata after election day and potential donors will say, "Hey Mitt, you have plenty of money to pay those bills yourself."
Romney cares about money a lot more than he cares about winning the Presidency, so he is doing fund-raisers instead of campaigning.
davidpdx
(22,000 posts)He can't stay competitive in red states that Obama flipped in 2008. North Carolina will be very close again, but just the fact that Romney is having to dump resources into it means he has less in Florida, Ohio, Colorado, Nevada, New Hampshire, and Virginia.
I still hope Obama can get NC again. It was so very exciting to be a blue state on the night he was elected.
Lex
(34,108 posts)and this article explains it a bit:
Obama Using Voter Registration To Stay Close In North Carolina
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/28/obama-nc-voter-registration_n_1922296.html
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)That's what someone on DU said. PPP polls could underrepresent Obama support in certain states.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts).
TroyD
(4,551 posts)I thought Rasmussen was the only pollster that ignored cell phones.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)As to "why not" I assume it's because it's expensive.
I need to see more polls but there does seem to be a small amount of tightening; maybe a point or two. There should be quite a few nat'l and swing state polls released ahead of the debates.
I look at Wednesday's debate as a game four of a seven game playoff series where one team is up 2-1.
demwing
(16,916 posts)and PPP use auto-dialing
TroyD
(4,551 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)* Romney has a 62-35 one with whites
http://edition.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/results/polls/#NCP00p1