2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumShe's Teddy Roosevelt tonight -- take on all the vested interests and bust them up
Bust the trusts. Go after those corporate tax avoiders. They make her so mad.
"Sanders target is too small." Now she's more progressive than Bernie. I guess she hasn't been listening to him for 30 years.
Where the hell were you when we needed you Hillary?
Avalux
(35,015 posts)AtomicKitten
(46,585 posts)reformist2
(9,841 posts)The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,732 posts)Put a couple of magnets on it and you could generate enough electricity to light up a small town.
speaktruthtopower
(800 posts)..it's that it's so obvious.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)xocet
(3,871 posts)hedda_foil
(16,375 posts)When last we met Hilly, she had just gotten home from Goldman Sachs, who paid her $200,000 every few months as walking around money.
Bernie enters the room....
NowSam
(1,252 posts)If anyone is buying what she is selling I might have to start selling bridges in Brooklyn.
hobbit709
(41,694 posts)SMC22307
(8,090 posts)"the first woman president" that they ignore most of what comes out of her mouth.
NowSam
(1,252 posts)She has at least a dozen positions in every issue and she on video after video contradicting her own positions. No one else gets away with this blatant contempt for the electorate...not since Dick Cheney.
SMC22307
(8,090 posts)with a massive dose of don't-trust-her.
HerbChestnut
(3,649 posts)It's sad to watch and even sadder to know that someone not as familiar with both of their positions as we are might believe her.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)senz
(11,945 posts)Like a carnival barker. Seriously cynical.
2pooped2pop
(5,420 posts)SusanCalvin
(6,592 posts)"Bernie's gonna tear up Obamacare, just shred it and we'll have nothing" again. Gimme a break. He's talking about an ultimate goal, and she knows it.
I further feel she's lifted the majority of her current pitch from Bernie. And that Bernie listens a lot better than she does.
JeffHead
(1,186 posts)As always camp windsock will follow.
Broward
(1,976 posts)Vattel
(9,289 posts)amborin
(16,631 posts)SusanCalvin
(6,592 posts)I do think she has a conscience of a sort. But I think power is a big motivation, and that, as I see it, she rationalizes more than I would ideally prefer.
saltpoint
(50,986 posts)primary campaigns involving Hillary Clinton, I find myself thinking about Tammy Wynette and the remark Hillary made on 60 Minutes about not being a 'Stand By Your Man' woman. And the flack she deservedly took for it, clumsy and class-toxic as it was.
http://www.npr.org/2000/10/28/1113153/tammy-wynettes-stand-by-your-man
Then came the presidential election of 1992. During an interview on "60 Minutes" about her husband's alleged affair with Gennifer Flowers, Hillary Clinton proclaimed she wasn't `some little woman standing by her man like Tammy Wynette.' Watching it from her bedroom in Nashville, Wynette exploded.
"I came up out of the bed. I said, `It didn't make me so mad about the song right then, it made me made 'cause she said "some little old woman."'"
Sorry to veer off topic. But it just came to mind.
Nyan
(1,192 posts)SusanCalvin
(6,592 posts)Except that, given her objection to simple quotes about whether she's moderate or progressive, I don't buy it.
Beartracks
(12,816 posts)That's why she's a pragmatic moderate.
So she can't be a "progressive who gets things done," because according to her such a thing doesn't exist. I think she's just found a way to squeeze the word "progressive" into her definition of "moderate," and is hoping people will associate the term with her.
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SusanCalvin
(6,592 posts)nc4bo
(17,651 posts)Karmadillo
(9,253 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)Armstead
(47,803 posts)Stay tuned tomorrow for Version 78.8
merrily
(45,251 posts)Vote2016
(1,198 posts)Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)Hell Hath No Fury
(16,327 posts)while I was listening to her bull about going after financial malfeasance. I felt like I had entered some weird opposite/simultaneous universe.
Armstead
(47,803 posts)"You're all in my crosshairs, but give me money"
JPnoodleman
(454 posts)INdemo
(6,994 posts)SoapBox
(18,791 posts)She's full of fucking shit.
Bernblu
(441 posts)jalan48
(13,870 posts)I think she just propelled herself into the air.
lastone
(588 posts)Anything but a centrist republican power hungry megalomaniac is beyond me!
democrank
(11,096 posts)Anything
Odin2005
(53,521 posts)retrowire
(10,345 posts)from the night.
tricky tricky
senz
(11,945 posts)I don't think so.
AzDar
(14,023 posts)billhicks76
(5,082 posts)LibDemAlways
(15,139 posts)has only recently started to pay close attention to politics, said this about Hillary: "I watched her speech after the Iowa caucuses. Has she always been hugely fake because that's how she comes across." Perceptive kid.
grasswire
(50,130 posts).......to use this tactic? To go after Bernie on his strengths?
Motown_Johnny
(22,308 posts)Or was that when she was on the Board at Walmart? I can never keep track.
2pooped2pop
(5,420 posts)Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)LOL!!!
Nuthin' like ripping off his "not enough".
fierywoman
(7,684 posts)Someone please tell me what she has actually accomplished? As First Lady? As Senator? As Secretary of State? Please? Someone? Thanks!
Gene Debs
(582 posts)Lorien
(31,935 posts)jfern
(5,204 posts)She was right there cheering him on. She will say anything to win this primary.
Lorien
(31,935 posts)her benefactors? They've given her far more cash than that: http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2015/10/14/hillary-takes-millions-in-campaign-cash-from-enemies