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Pisces

(5,599 posts)
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 12:10 AM Feb 2016

Hillary is going to win. I was not for her in 2008, in fact I was radically against her. I know that

she is the right person for the job. She will pick up where Obama left off and keep the ball rolling in the right direction. Bernie
has a beautiful vision, and calling for a revolution is interesting. He has no explantation on how he will get these people to vote for his plans. Its not good enough to say he will get the people to demand it. We have been demanding it. We are not voting all of
these people out of Congress and voting in all of his supporters.

This is my prediction, and I will preface it that I predicted Obama would win in August of 2007.

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Hillary is going to win. I was not for her in 2008, in fact I was radically against her. I know that (Original Post) Pisces Feb 2016 OP
Of course she will win. She is facing a weak candidate, unlike '08. nt LexVegas Feb 2016 #1
She will win because nichomachus Feb 2016 #5
For the 80,000,000th time... TCJ70 Feb 2016 #2
Where is the list of these candidates for Congress that we are suppose to get behind that Pisces Feb 2016 #17
Sometimes answers are straightforward Armstead Feb 2016 #31
What progressive policies can Clinton get congress to vote for, that Sanders can't? arcane1 Feb 2016 #3
none, since she is a conservative Doctor_J Feb 2016 #6
Exactly. That's why I can ask this question a dozen times and NEVER get a reply. arcane1 Feb 2016 #7
Beyond that are questions of the compromises that will be made in the grand bargain. dogman Feb 2016 #19
"Compromise" is just a euphemism for "Giving republicans what they want" arcane1 Feb 2016 #22
Like Obama she will will get things done with compromise. That dirty word that no one wants to say Pisces Feb 2016 #13
You avoided my question: What progressive policies will she get passed that Sanders can't? arcane1 Feb 2016 #16
Improving Obamacare is not progressive policy??? Pisces Feb 2016 #18
What are these improvements, and how will she convince republicans to vote "yes"? arcane1 Feb 2016 #20
The GOP will compromise with HRC mikehiggins Feb 2016 #33
None, Clinton has proffered unilateral measures... Sanders will soon follow her lead uponit7771 Feb 2016 #21
And she'll be criminally referred by the FBI hoosierlib Feb 2016 #4
Only in the fevered dreams of the GOP. nt SunSeeker Feb 2016 #8
Care to make a wager? hoosierlib Feb 2016 #15
Sounds to me like you concede Hillary will be our nominee. SunSeeker Feb 2016 #32
I disagree. It's not going away. 840high Feb 2016 #28
I am sure it will live on in GOP deranged minds. SunSeeker Feb 2016 #30
Ha! Repuke talking points on this site don't go to far. A bridge is missing it's troll. Pisces Feb 2016 #11
Willing to eat crow when it happens? hoosierlib Feb 2016 #14
It was not marked classified when it was sent to her. SunSeeker Feb 2016 #29
Do you have the government's permission to out yourself on a discussion board? oasis Feb 2016 #36
Seems like she's the favorite in the primary, but if she's our nominee, I fear we're in for 4 years Vote2016 Feb 2016 #9
K & R SunSeeker Feb 2016 #10
She may win the primary but will be toast in the GE gyroscope Feb 2016 #12
Sanders will depress the PoC vote, he lost them by 25 point in IA.. A state he spent 3 months in uponit7771 Feb 2016 #23
She's got a better chance than Bernie redstateblues Feb 2016 #24
The GE polls say otherwise n/t gyroscope Feb 2016 #26
I really do think she cannot win in the GE. artislife Feb 2016 #35
yep themonster Feb 2016 #25
Of course she will. I've never doubted it. n/t Lil Missy Feb 2016 #27
Hillary has no record of getting anyone to vote for her "plans." Bernie does. merrily Feb 2016 #34
Bernie will win: H lost Iowa RobertEarl Feb 2016 #37
Ok... WillyT Feb 2016 #38
Clinton can't win.. Bernie can. basselope Feb 2016 #39
I was the same. DCBob Feb 2016 #40
ZERO chance she'll be President if she's the nominee. Dawgs Feb 2016 #41
What an absurd post. DCBob Feb 2016 #42
Hasn't she already publicly criticized a number of Obama's positions? polly7 Feb 2016 #43

TCJ70

(4,387 posts)
2. For the 80,000,000th time...
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 12:14 AM
Feb 2016

...the revolution is the answer. It's about more than getting people to demand it. It involves keeping people involved and changing the makeup of congress in order to enact future policies. Hillary won't go anywhere fast without the revolution either, but she doesn't say much about that does she?

Pisces

(5,599 posts)
17. Where is the list of these candidates for Congress that we are suppose to get behind that
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 12:33 AM
Feb 2016

are part of this revolution? You have to have a plan of action for a dream to be realized. He has yet to explain this
plan on how the revolution will work and how long it will take. We would already have to be behind this candidates and
giving them money.

This revolution is just talk until there is a plan.

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
31. Sometimes answers are straightforward
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 01:32 AM
Feb 2016

He is saying that if peopke get more involved in public life and the issues they care about, then the way us paved for specific positive changes.

It is a message to break up the learned helplessness we have fallen into.

That is a lot more constructive than "We really can't change anything siginicant, so settle for the crumbs."

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
3. What progressive policies can Clinton get congress to vote for, that Sanders can't?
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 12:17 AM
Feb 2016

"He has no explantation on how he will get these people to vote for his plans" applies just as much to Clinton.

What is HER "explantation on how she will get these people to vote for her plans"?

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
7. Exactly. That's why I can ask this question a dozen times and NEVER get a reply.
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 12:20 AM
Feb 2016

I expect the OP to ignore it. They always do.

dogman

(6,073 posts)
19. Beyond that are questions of the compromises that will be made in the grand bargain.
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 12:35 AM
Feb 2016

Who will stand against The Peter G. Peterson Foundation and its partners who feel entitlements cuts are necessary.

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
22. "Compromise" is just a euphemism for "Giving republicans what they want"
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 12:37 AM
Feb 2016

We are expected to believe that is the Only Way To Go.

Pisces

(5,599 posts)
13. Like Obama she will will get things done with compromise. That dirty word that no one wants to say
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 12:30 AM
Feb 2016

but is the only way things get done between people who disagree. Maybe you missed how much Obama has accomplished.
This is what I will expect of President Clinton. Scrapping Obamacare and dreaming that we will get Medicare for all with no votes
is just nonsense. Improving on Obamacare is the something that can get done. Changing Marijuana from schedule 1 to 2,
is something she can get done.

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
16. You avoided my question: What progressive policies will she get passed that Sanders can't?
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 12:32 AM
Feb 2016

She claims to be a "progressive who gets things done", right? Which PROGRESSIVE things can she, and only she, get done?

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
20. What are these improvements, and how will she convince republicans to vote "yes"?
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 12:36 AM
Feb 2016

Repeating slogans is just another way of dodging the question.

Again.

mikehiggins

(5,614 posts)
33. The GOP will compromise with HRC
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 01:45 AM
Feb 2016

Let me know how that works out, okay?

One thing true she said at the forum. When Anderson asked if she still believed in the "vast, right wing, conspiracy," she shot back "Don't you?" Everyone laughed but it is nothing less than the truth. The GOPukes HATE HRC almost as much as they do President Obama, and for far longer.

It'll certainly be nice to have a woman in the White House but that's as far as it goes. If HRC is elected we will be at war within the year. That is the only policy change Congress will approve.

 

hoosierlib

(710 posts)
4. And she'll be criminally referred by the FBI
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 12:17 AM
Feb 2016

and will.lose the general election to Cruz, Trump or Rubio...

SunSeeker

(51,571 posts)
30. I am sure it will live on in GOP deranged minds.
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 01:15 AM
Feb 2016

It will join their CT hall of fame next to Whitewater, Vince Foster and Benghazi.

 

hoosierlib

(710 posts)
14. Willing to eat crow when it happens?
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 12:32 AM
Feb 2016

I work in the intelligence community...trust me when I say there is substance to the investigation...one just does not keep classified infornation on an unsecured network...ask Patreaus.

SunSeeker

(51,571 posts)
29. It was not marked classified when it was sent to her.
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 01:13 AM
Feb 2016

This is nothing like the Patreaus case.


But thanks for the laughs on the "trust me" line.


 

Vote2016

(1,198 posts)
9. Seems like she's the favorite in the primary, but if she's our nominee, I fear we're in for 4 years
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 12:23 AM
Feb 2016

of Republican darkness (but then maybe Warren 2020!).

 

gyroscope

(1,443 posts)
12. She may win the primary but will be toast in the GE
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 12:27 AM
Feb 2016

depresses the youth vote, while drawing out the Republican crowd in record numbers as no one else can.

sounds like a recipe for disaster to me.

uponit7771

(90,347 posts)
23. Sanders will depress the PoC vote, he lost them by 25 point in IA.. A state he spent 3 months in
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 12:37 AM
Feb 2016

... both candidates have their fail

 

artislife

(9,497 posts)
35. I really do think she cannot win in the GE.
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 01:50 AM
Feb 2016

But since I going to caucus for Bernie, I really don't care about her chances at this point in time.

themonster

(137 posts)
25. yep
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 12:41 AM
Feb 2016

Correct. She will win the nomination and then Sanders will endorse her. She can beat Trump, Cruz or Rubio. The Republican party is in chaos. I'm going to enjoy seeing Bill Clinton back in the White House.

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
37. Bernie will win: H lost Iowa
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 02:37 AM
Feb 2016

Sanders says: “Nine months ago, we came to this beautiful state. We had no political organization, we had no money, we had no name recognition, and we were taking on the most powerful political organization in the United States of America. And tonight, while the results are still not known, it looks like we are in a virtual tie.”

That history explains why Sanders emerged as the big winner of the night on the Democratic side.

Coming out of Iowa’s near-tie last night, his campaign looks stronger than ever. An uncompromising democratic socialist climbed up from single-digit Iowa poll numbers a year ago against one of the most powerful politicians in America to a draw. Even as strong a member of the media establishment as CNN’s Wolf Blitzer couldn’t call it any other way as the returns rolled in last night: “Even if he comes in slightly, slightly second, this is a huge win for Bernie Sanders.”

Just look at these actual headlines:

Des Moines Register: "Bernie Sanders finds victory in 'virtual tie' with Clinton"

Mashable: "Hillary Clinton barely won, but Bernie Sanders is the true champion"

New York Times: "In Iowa caucuses, victory extends beyond first place"

The Week: "Bernie Sanders declares 'virtual tie,' moral victory in Iowa caucuses"

The Guardian: "Iowa proved Bernie Sanders can win — and that Hillary Clinton is beatable"

Washington Post: "Marco Rubio and Bernie Sanders were the real winners in Iowa"

 

basselope

(2,565 posts)
39. Clinton can't win.. Bernie can.
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 02:45 AM
Feb 2016

There is a HUGE enthusiasm gap.. unless somehow the GOP picks Cruz, Clinton will have an impossible time in the general election b/c turnout will be so low.

The key to Bernie Sanders is getting people who don't normally vote to turn out and vote, because we would FINALLY have someone who is genuine.

Obama COULD have done this if he had stayed strong between 2008-2010, but he dropped the ball hard, gave in on the public option and left the base out in the cold... so they didn't turn out in 2010 and he lost the congress.

Bernie will not make the same mistakes and will continue to have the support because he will be fighting for the people.

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
40. I was the same.
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 06:41 AM
Feb 2016

Early supporter of Obama before he even announced to run... and couldn't stand Hillary.. now I'm convinced she's our candidate. Yes she will win and she will make a great President.

polly7

(20,582 posts)
43. Hasn't she already publicly criticized a number of Obama's positions?
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 09:37 AM
Feb 2016

How, to anyone knowing that, is: "she will pick up where Obama left off and keep the ball rolling in the right direction" correct?

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