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MysticLynx

(51 posts)
Mon Oct 1, 2012, 08:00 PM Oct 2012

Brown -Warren Debate

I acknowledge I have a personal bias- so what I think I see in the debates may be due to my personal perceptions.
But there are a few things I have noticed and hope someone here has Tivo or something and will be able to review the debate and verify if what I think I see is really there.

1) The moderator seems to allow Brown much more time for responses than he does Warren
2) He seems to be cutting Warren off much more often
3) He seems to rather condescending to Warren and ask stupid questions like 'the do you believe him calling your Professor' clap trap but not allowing her the time to 'correct' the misrepresentations that Brown has made about her record and always allowing him extra time to 'defend' his voting record.

If someone has tivo can you please do an accounting of the time each is allowed to speak, and the number of times he 'cuts off' Brown versus the number of times he cuts of Warren. How many 'follow up' responses does he allow Brown versus how many 'follow up' responses he allows Warren. I think I see a pattern here but again it may just be a product of my personal bias be nice to have some 'data' to see if my perception of the debate matches the reality of it.

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Lisa D

(1,532 posts)
1. It seemed like he gave Brown opportunities
Mon Oct 1, 2012, 08:02 PM
Oct 2012

to respond to Warren, then told her it was time to move on when she wanted to respond to Brown. But despite that, I think Warren definitely held her own and won the debate.

TroyD

(4,551 posts)
7. Speaking of ROVE!
Mon Oct 1, 2012, 08:13 PM
Oct 2012

Since Brown loves to keep saying he is an INDEPENDENT, the next time they debate, Warren needs to remind the audience that Karl Rove's SuperPAC is funding Brown.

How many 'Independents' does Rove give money to?

Frances

(8,545 posts)
3. I did not see the whole debate
Mon Oct 1, 2012, 08:04 PM
Oct 2012

only the last 15 minutes. It seemed to me that he had a good ol' boy attitude toward Brown and that he had an old fashioned school teacher tone with Warren.

However, Warren's summary was SO much better than Brown's.

Hopefully, that is what voters will remember.

Oh, and Warren's line about how she's trying to change the fact that Mass has never elected a female governor or Senator!

doublethink

(6,823 posts)
5. I think you are pretty spot on.
Mon Oct 1, 2012, 08:08 PM
Oct 2012

I would be interested to see the time allowed to respond by both candidates, as well as answers to your other questions.

k&r.

 

RBInMaine

(13,570 posts)
6. What will get more play? Warren saying she'd give Valentine one more year or Brown touting Scalia???
Mon Oct 1, 2012, 08:13 PM
Oct 2012

Bobby Valentine is the manager of the struggling Red Sox. And we all know who Scalia is, and that man was Brown's FIRST answer when he was asked who he saw as a model Supreme Court Justice. I know many people from Mass. are disappointed in Valentine, but are they more disappointed in Scalia? Brown really stepped on it with one. (Then the smarmy flipflopper tried to recover when he went through a list and then threw in Sotomayor. What a PUKE !)

Lisa D

(1,532 posts)
8. Brown showed his true colors with the Scalia answer.
Mon Oct 1, 2012, 08:18 PM
Oct 2012

First he chooses a Republican, then when booed, tries the swing vote, Kennedy, then when the booing continues, he blurts out Sotomayor. And when Gregory presses him to name his favorite of the three, he refuses. Brown also refused to answer the Red Sox questions. Wow, what a brave candidate.

I doubt Brown won over many voters with his wishy-washy performance tonight.

TroyD

(4,551 posts)
9. Brown needs to be finished off
Mon Oct 1, 2012, 08:45 PM
Oct 2012

1) People need to know he is being funded by Karl Rove's SuperPAC (how many 'Independents' get funded by Rove?)

2) Brown's fundraisers and advertisements in the past boasted that he was the one who stopped Obama & the Democrats from having a Super Majority in 2010 (despite his attempt to portray himself as an Obama lover)

3) He has opposed the Affordable Care Act, yet admits that his children benefit from it

OctOct1

(395 posts)
10. Most unfair debate ever
Mon Oct 1, 2012, 09:07 PM
Oct 2012

Brown was let to ramble on and on to many times and Warren was cut off and cut short.
David Gregory should never be allowed to run a debate again. What a joke.

TroyD

(4,551 posts)
11. Have you had a chance to see the thread about David Gregory maligning Obama?
Mon Oct 1, 2012, 09:12 PM
Oct 2012

I posted it early this morning.

It's an article and a clip by Think Progress where it shows how David Gregory falsely claimed that Obama said Al Qaeda has been defeated.

Hundreds of people are signing a petition for his removal as Meet The Press moderator.

OctOct1

(395 posts)
12. Just finished signing the pledge
Mon Oct 1, 2012, 09:22 PM
Oct 2012

They have approx 2500 of the 3000 signatures they need.
I did read something earlier today about the false claim David Gregory made.
Thank you for keeping us all to date with what is going on.
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