So, what has Karl Rove been smoking?

[eridani]

http://readersupportednews.org/opinion2/277-75/13742-is-karl-rove-losing-it

Let's get this straight: Out of the blue, this highly disciplined, message-centric Machiavellian strategist has completely unnecessarily associated himself with murder. Twice. What is Karl Rove smoking?

If the Svengali-like party boss behind Romney has fallen to such depths, it should come as no surprise that the candidate himself has performed so poorly. For starters, Rove hasn't had the close personal relationship with Romney he had with Bush and has had to project his influence via surrogates in Romney's high command, specifically, former RNC Chairman Ed Gillespie, the co-founder with Rove of American Crossroads, who is now a high-level Romney strategist; Beth Myers, a former Rove protégé who served as Romney's chief of staff and oversaw the selection process of the vice-presidential nominee; Carl Forti, the political director of American Crossroads who helped start Romney's PAC, Restore Our Future; and media strategist Stuart Stevens, a Bush/Rove veteran; and others.

After the Republican convention in Tampa, however, Rove's shadow operation fell prey to bitter infighting, with Stevens taking the heat for the Clint Eastwood fiasco and for Romney's failure to mention Afghanistan in his speech.

For Rove, who was brilliant at keeping George W. Bush on message, working via remote control with Romney has been a disaster. The theme of the Republican National Convention - "We Built It" - is already a distant memory, even though untold millions in prime-time ad dollars were poured into it just a month ago. Meanwhile, Romney has unwittingly replaced it with his own self-destructive narrative that dismisses 47 percent of the American people as dependent victims and reinforces the notion that he is a multimillionaire who doesn't give a whit about most Americans.

[Drunken Irishman]

1. Karl Rove is overrated...

He hasn't done shit since 2004. Remember how much play he got in 2006 during the midterms? He had his famous quote back then when he said he was entitled to 'the' math when he got into an argument over polling with that NPR host. He was woefully out of the loop back then in predicting that Republicans would keep the House & Senate and he was woefully out of the loop four years ago.

Bully for Rove for getting Bush reelected...but it's not like he did so in a tough environment or anything. Outside that, what has he done nationally?

[eridani]

2. He could run the Bush puppet directly

After 2004, that option was no longer available.

[TroyD]

3. Rove was only able to get Bush 'elected' through electoral fraud

And even with that, it was only by the slimmest of margins.

[cbrer]

4. 1. Do NOT take this matter independently of other strategies. 2.

Do not underestimate the devious nature of the man.

3. A substantial percentage of the electorate has been shown to have short memories.

4. The right trigger at the right time could prove decisive

5. Rove and the GOP concern themselves with legalities only as speedbumps.

I HOPE the gist of the OP is correct. I don't trust those MFs for a split hair nanosecond.

[madrchsod]

5. axlerod is the man

axlerod took a unknown black guy who moved chicago and made him the president of the united states. he and the illinois democratic party developed obama and guided him through the ins and outs of chicago-illinois politics. they knew after the boston speech that they had the next candidate for the president of the usa. axlerod was always the man behind the scene during these years. after obama`s win axlerod finally came out into the public eye. now he`s back in chicago running obama`s messaging for his and obama`s last campaign.

karl is a loser and always will be.