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JRLeft

(7,010 posts)
Tue Oct 2, 2012, 04:53 PM Oct 2012

Biden Says Middle Class ‘Has Been Buried Last Four Years’

CHARLOTTE, N.C. — Vice President Joe Biden, criticizing Mitt Romney and Rep. Paul Ryan for a plan he said will raise taxes on the middle class, instead stepped on his campaign’s message by saying the middle class has been “buried” over the last four years — the time President Obama has been in office.

“This is deadly earnest. How they can justify, how they can justify raising taxes on the middle class that has been buried the last four years, how in the Lord’s name can they justify raising their taxes. We’ve seen this movie before,” Biden said to a crowd of 1,000 at the Fillmore Charlotte.

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The Republican National Committee and the Romney campaign quickly pounced on a statement. The RNC circulated the clip and the Romney campaign called Biden’s comments a “stunning admission.”

“Vice President Biden made a stunning admission today and we couldn’t agree more: the middle class has been ‘buried’ under the last four years of this President’s policies. Under President Obama, the middle class has suffered from crushing unemployment, rising prices and falling incomes. They can’t afford to be ‘buried’ for four more years. Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan will take our nation in a new direction and are offering exactly what hardworking families need – real reforms for a real recovery,” Romney spokeswoman Amanda Henneberg said in a statement.

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/10/biden-says-middle-class-has-been-buried-last-four-years/

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Biden Says Middle Class ‘Has Been Buried Last Four Years’ (Original Post) JRLeft Oct 2012 OP
Stupid comment that plays right into the Republicans' hands. Drunken Irishman Oct 2012 #1
I agree the dems have to go into damage control. JRLeft Oct 2012 #2
Coverage of the debate will make this a half day story at best Tom Rinaldo Oct 2012 #11
They have been buried for the last four years due to Repuke obstructionism! Laurian Oct 2012 #3
This will have a negative effect on the president. JRLeft Oct 2012 #4
Please. Jennicut Oct 2012 #7
Ugh...you must be kidding, Joe BeyondGeography Oct 2012 #5
We HAVE been buried the last four years. MrSlayer Oct 2012 #6
^^ This. n/t gkhouston Oct 2012 #9
Ludicrous to call this a gaffe fugop Oct 2012 #8
Still digging out from the worst recession... BeyondGeography Oct 2012 #10
The man has been going non-stop for months. Give him a break, will you? Laurian Oct 2012 #15
What can I say? I disagree fugop Oct 2012 #16
They already did. Jennicut Oct 2012 #20
Good. I hope they stand firmly behind Joe on this. fugop Oct 2012 #21
Oh Christ, and you're perfect? He misphrased the line. He'll clarify and it will be done.Let it sink RBInMaine Oct 2012 #19
Nah, this was a gaffe. He was saying it has been tough but don't want to return to failed policies RBInMaine Oct 2012 #17
Agreed n/t ChazII Oct 2012 #23
Guess the election is over now! Proud Liberal Dem Oct 2012 #12
No, but it will have an effect. JRLeft Oct 2012 #13
He will clarify his statement and this will last a day or two at most. This was a gaffe. That's all. RBInMaine Oct 2012 #18
political ad coming .... nt littlewolf Oct 2012 #14
THIS is the best they got??? LTR Oct 2012 #22

Tom Rinaldo

(22,913 posts)
11. Coverage of the debate will make this a half day story at best
Tue Oct 2, 2012, 05:30 PM
Oct 2012

If Obama had said it instead of Biden it would be more valuable for the Republicans to use in ads, but it's just Joe being Joe. He's actually right and he won't have a problem explaining his point in the VP debate

Laurian

(2,593 posts)
3. They have been buried for the last four years due to Repuke obstructionism!
Tue Oct 2, 2012, 05:01 PM
Oct 2012

They are so f***ing desperate that they are pulling ANY string they can find.

Preach it Joe!

Jennicut

(25,415 posts)
7. Please.
Tue Oct 2, 2012, 05:20 PM
Oct 2012

Repubs caused the policies that led to the middle class (and those poorer) having the problems they have had for the last 4 years. Obama did his best for two years but then had a Repub House.
The MSM tries really hard to find anything to pelt at the President and it doesn't seem to be working. Most people still blame Bush for where we are.

 

MrSlayer

(22,143 posts)
6. We HAVE been buried the last four years.
Tue Oct 2, 2012, 05:17 PM
Oct 2012

I'm still out of work. I've been getting killed the past four years but it's the aftershock of the horrific republican policies that are keeping me and mine down.

So he's just telling the truth.

fugop

(1,828 posts)
8. Ludicrous to call this a gaffe
Tue Oct 2, 2012, 05:22 PM
Oct 2012

Dems would be absolutely spineless to let anyone call this a gaffe. The response is: buried for the last four years due to the economic collapse brought on by eight years of Republican policies.

It's a simple response aided by the fact that it's true. I can't believe any on our side would buy into labeling this a gaffe. Shame on us.

BeyondGeography

(39,374 posts)
10. Still digging out from the worst recession...
Tue Oct 2, 2012, 05:29 PM
Oct 2012

How hard would it be to get the wording right the first time? Not a gaffe, but an unforced error that a professional should't make.

Laurian

(2,593 posts)
15. The man has been going non-stop for months. Give him a break, will you?
Tue Oct 2, 2012, 05:36 PM
Oct 2012

I can't believe the way we jump on our own over petty shit.

fugop

(1,828 posts)
16. What can I say? I disagree
Tue Oct 2, 2012, 05:37 PM
Oct 2012

I think the wording was fine, and if they jump on this, I see Obama and the Dems - if they attack back instead of folding - making HUGE hay out of this. Because all they have to do is remind the public WHY we've been buried for the past four years. And poll after poll has shown that the American people absolutely understand - all GOP claims to the contrary - that our troubles over the past four years came about thanks to Bush and the GOP policies that caused the collapse in the first place.

Frankly, I think they should be made to regret trying to make this a gaffe. And I honestly think it will be incredibly easy to turn this right around on them and remind the voters once again why we've been in trouble for four years (hint: it's not because of Obama and the Democrats).

So yea. Go for it. As far as I'm concerned, one good question about this tomorrow night and Obama freakin' NAILS Romney with the reasons why the middle class is digging its way out of a hole they were knocked into by Bush and the GOP. And the reasons why we're starting to dig out and must refuse to go back.

So again. Yea. Bring it on, I say. As long as Obama and the Dems don't turn on Joe here, which is what they so often do. They need to back him up and go all in on the statement, hammering the fact that the middle class IS buried thanks to the same policies Romney wants to revive. They lose.

Jennicut

(25,415 posts)
20. They already did.
Tue Oct 2, 2012, 05:43 PM
Oct 2012

In a statement, Obama spokeswoman Lis Smith also clarified Biden’s earlier comment. “As the Vice President has been saying all year and again in his remarks today, the middle class was punished by the failed Bush policies that crashed our economy — and a vote for Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan is a return to those failed policies,” she said,

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/election-2012/wp/2012/10/02/joe-biden-corrects-himself/?wprss=rss_politics

I think this is a stretch as a "gaffe". It's so incredibly petty. He obviously meant exactly what we have been saying here. It is not Mittens saying "47%". I think some people on DU worry about weirdest stuff sometimes. This is up there with the "2012 is so going to be stolen by Romney and therefore I will be miserable for the rest of the election".

fugop

(1,828 posts)
21. Good. I hope they stand firmly behind Joe on this.
Tue Oct 2, 2012, 05:48 PM
Oct 2012

The Romney campaign is desperate and reaching for anything. Dems need to be confident and stay unified. Joe spoke the truth. Thanks to the GOP policies that led to the economic crash, the middle class has been screwed and is trying to dig itself out of a hole. And we're not going back to those crappy policies. If they stand strong, we win.

 

RBInMaine

(13,570 posts)
17. Nah, this was a gaffe. He was saying it has been tough but don't want to return to failed policies
Tue Oct 2, 2012, 05:38 PM
Oct 2012

that made the mess in the first place and saddle the middle class with taxes when they need a tax cut. He flubbed his line. People know what he meant.

 

RBInMaine

(13,570 posts)
18. He will clarify his statement and this will last a day or two at most. This was a gaffe. That's all.
Tue Oct 2, 2012, 05:39 PM
Oct 2012

LTR

(13,227 posts)
22. THIS is the best they got???
Tue Oct 2, 2012, 09:29 PM
Oct 2012


Please. Biden's right. Republican policies of the last decade buried the middle class. Nice try, losers!
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