2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumBiden Says Middle Class ‘Has Been Buried Last Four Years’
CHARLOTTE, N.C. Vice President Joe Biden, criticizing Mitt Romney and Rep. Paul Ryan for a plan he said will raise taxes on the middle class, instead stepped on his campaigns message by saying the middle class has been buried over the last four years the time President Obama has been in office.
This is deadly earnest. How they can justify, how they can justify raising taxes on the middle class that has been buried the last four years, how in the Lords name can they justify raising their taxes. Weve seen this movie before, Biden said to a crowd of 1,000 at the Fillmore Charlotte.
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The Republican National Committee and the Romney campaign quickly pounced on a statement. The RNC circulated the clip and the Romney campaign called Bidens comments a stunning admission.
Vice President Biden made a stunning admission today and we couldnt agree more: the middle class has been buried under the last four years of this Presidents policies. Under President Obama, the middle class has suffered from crushing unemployment, rising prices and falling incomes. They cant afford to be buried for four more years. Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan will take our nation in a new direction and are offering exactly what hardworking families need real reforms for a real recovery, Romney spokeswoman Amanda Henneberg said in a statement.
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/10/biden-says-middle-class-has-been-buried-last-four-years/
Drunken Irishman
(34,857 posts)JRLeft
(7,010 posts)Tom Rinaldo
(22,913 posts)If Obama had said it instead of Biden it would be more valuable for the Republicans to use in ads, but it's just Joe being Joe. He's actually right and he won't have a problem explaining his point in the VP debate
Laurian
(2,593 posts)They are so f***ing desperate that they are pulling ANY string they can find.
Preach it Joe!
JRLeft
(7,010 posts)Repubs caused the policies that led to the middle class (and those poorer) having the problems they have had for the last 4 years. Obama did his best for two years but then had a Repub House.
The MSM tries really hard to find anything to pelt at the President and it doesn't seem to be working. Most people still blame Bush for where we are.
BeyondGeography
(39,374 posts)Inept.
MrSlayer
(22,143 posts)I'm still out of work. I've been getting killed the past four years but it's the aftershock of the horrific republican policies that are keeping me and mine down.
So he's just telling the truth.
gkhouston
(21,642 posts)fugop
(1,828 posts)Dems would be absolutely spineless to let anyone call this a gaffe. The response is: buried for the last four years due to the economic collapse brought on by eight years of Republican policies.
It's a simple response aided by the fact that it's true. I can't believe any on our side would buy into labeling this a gaffe. Shame on us.
BeyondGeography
(39,374 posts)How hard would it be to get the wording right the first time? Not a gaffe, but an unforced error that a professional should't make.
Laurian
(2,593 posts)I can't believe the way we jump on our own over petty shit.
fugop
(1,828 posts)I think the wording was fine, and if they jump on this, I see Obama and the Dems - if they attack back instead of folding - making HUGE hay out of this. Because all they have to do is remind the public WHY we've been buried for the past four years. And poll after poll has shown that the American people absolutely understand - all GOP claims to the contrary - that our troubles over the past four years came about thanks to Bush and the GOP policies that caused the collapse in the first place.
Frankly, I think they should be made to regret trying to make this a gaffe. And I honestly think it will be incredibly easy to turn this right around on them and remind the voters once again why we've been in trouble for four years (hint: it's not because of Obama and the Democrats).
So yea. Go for it. As far as I'm concerned, one good question about this tomorrow night and Obama freakin' NAILS Romney with the reasons why the middle class is digging its way out of a hole they were knocked into by Bush and the GOP. And the reasons why we're starting to dig out and must refuse to go back.
So again. Yea. Bring it on, I say. As long as Obama and the Dems don't turn on Joe here, which is what they so often do. They need to back him up and go all in on the statement, hammering the fact that the middle class IS buried thanks to the same policies Romney wants to revive. They lose.
Jennicut
(25,415 posts)In a statement, Obama spokeswoman Lis Smith also clarified Bidens earlier comment. As the Vice President has been saying all year and again in his remarks today, the middle class was punished by the failed Bush policies that crashed our economy and a vote for Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan is a return to those failed policies, she said,
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/election-2012/wp/2012/10/02/joe-biden-corrects-himself/?wprss=rss_politics
I think this is a stretch as a "gaffe". It's so incredibly petty. He obviously meant exactly what we have been saying here. It is not Mittens saying "47%". I think some people on DU worry about weirdest stuff sometimes. This is up there with the "2012 is so going to be stolen by Romney and therefore I will be miserable for the rest of the election".
fugop
(1,828 posts)The Romney campaign is desperate and reaching for anything. Dems need to be confident and stay unified. Joe spoke the truth. Thanks to the GOP policies that led to the economic crash, the middle class has been screwed and is trying to dig itself out of a hole. And we're not going back to those crappy policies. If they stand strong, we win.
RBInMaine
(13,570 posts)RBInMaine
(13,570 posts)that made the mess in the first place and saddle the middle class with taxes when they need a tax cut. He flubbed his line. People know what he meant.
ChazII
(6,205 posts)Proud Liberal Dem
(24,414 posts)JRLeft
(7,010 posts)RBInMaine
(13,570 posts)littlewolf
(3,813 posts)LTR
(13,227 posts)Please. Biden's right. Republican policies of the last decade buried the middle class. Nice try, losers!