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woolldog

(8,791 posts)
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 02:52 AM Oct 2012

Something strange in the polls?

I just noticed that in just about every poll I can remember, Obama is losing independents. Isn't that odd? Does anyone find it odd that he's losing independents in every poll but still winning?

Didn't Obama win independents in 2008? And why isn't he winning them now?

Not sure what to make of it.

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still_one

(92,409 posts)
1. I am not sure what they mean by independents. One group he is winning is women. I would assume
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 02:54 AM
Oct 2012

independents should be independent of gender


TroyD

(4,551 posts)
2. Yes, I asked about it on a thread earlier today, too
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 02:56 AM
Oct 2012

And someone said that many of these 'Independents' are Republicans who are apparently too embarrassed to identify as such.

Nevertheless, I find it disturbing that Romney doesn't seem to have lost much support with them in some polls and still has a narrow lead considering all the vile things he has done and said about the American people this year.

 

woolldog

(8,791 posts)
5. hmmm ok
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 03:01 AM
Oct 2012

that would be a pretty decent explanation.

Didn't see you asking about that earlier. Im bothered by it too.

TroyD

(4,551 posts)
6. I mentioned it at #2 on the Quinnipiac thread earlier today
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 03:04 AM
Oct 2012

But it's certainly fine to bring it up again. It needs more discussion to determine what is going on.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251114771

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
4. A lot of people, especially men, register as independents, but can be depended upon to vote
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 03:01 AM
Oct 2012

Republican. They just don't want to declare themselves.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
7. Perhaps there are fewer and fewer declared independents each time?
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 03:15 AM
Oct 2012

Say there are 1,000 "independents." Let's say they are evenly split, 50/50 for Obama and Romney.

When a second poll comes around, 250 of those Independents have decided, "fuck it, I'm going Democrat when they ask me again."

The polls now show 75% of declared independents favor Romney, a 25% gain; but Obama's numbers haven't slipped, nor have Romney's grown.

Another 250 make a similar decision i nthe third poll, "fuck it, I'm going Republican!"

Now, Independents are once again vying 50/50 between the two candidates... what a dramatic horse race this is!

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quaker bill

(8,224 posts)
10. Remember the "poll skewing" thing?
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 07:30 AM
Oct 2012

Apparently with each sample, more and more folks are calling themselves "democrats". As the pool of independents shrinks, it is apparently also becoming more republican. This would make statistical sense.

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