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Bernie winning the primaries might just be a matter of dragging it out and letting Hillary defeat... (Original Post) AZ Progressive Feb 2016 OP
His pov on her seems accurate only up to a point Voice for Peace Feb 2016 #1
I think he made some of his points but I do not think he has this all Jarqui Feb 2016 #2
No EdwardBernays Feb 2016 #3
If the Party and The Establishment can get her the nomination though that would truly be... stillwaiting Feb 2016 #4
Yep EdwardBernays Feb 2016 #5
 

Voice for Peace

(13,141 posts)
1. His pov on her seems accurate only up to a point
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 07:16 AM
Feb 2016

and it's rude of him to play WH spokesman.
He's not. I doubt his source is more than a whispering wh staffer who wants hilary.

Meanwhile it continues to astonish me that support of bernie is so absent. I wrote to one of senators and said "please step up snd support bernie. Your donation base will triple overnite."
Hmm

Jarqui

(10,130 posts)
2. I think he made some of his points but I do not think he has this all
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 08:00 AM
Feb 2016

figured out.

The error of Hillary accepting money from banks for speeches happened in 2014 or before.
The emails when she was Secretary of State happened before she left there in Feb 2013.

It's not like these were sudden campaign errors.

The Obama administration knew about those speeches ages ago - Politico wrote them up in 2013. They knew she was going to have a legit email problem long before July when the CIA proved it.

And they have to be concerned that the Clinton Foundation conflict of interest is going to get some serious scrutiny.

Not much here that should be a big shock to them.

EdwardBernays

(3,343 posts)
3. No
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 08:47 AM
Feb 2016

The speechs were still occurring in 2015.

"Clinton made $2,935,000 from 2013 to 2015"

https://theintercept.com/2016/01/08/hillary-clinton-earned-more-from-12-speeches-to-big-banks-than-most-americans-earn-in-their-lifetime/?comments=1#comments

" According to the disclosure, Hillary Clinton delivered 51 speeches in 2014 and the first three months of 2015, earning more than $11 million. "

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/clintons-earn-more-than-25-million-in-speaking-fees-since-january-2014/2015/05/15/52605fbe-fb4d-11e4-9ef4-1bb7ce3b3fb7_story.html

Also I think what a shocking to them as much as anything is her incompetent campaign. It's sooooo out of touch and so self-defeating as to be parody. Like if you were gonna parody how bad her 2008 campaign was you'd make the 2016 campaign.

stillwaiting

(3,795 posts)
4. If the Party and The Establishment can get her the nomination though that would truly be...
Sun Feb 7, 2016, 09:26 AM
Feb 2016

... Mission Accomplished for TPTB.

Can you even imagine how many Americans that actually pay attention and care what happens in this country will become disillusioned and disenchanted if Hillary gets the nomination? I certainly hope that most of us won't tune out, but I fear many will.

And, that is EXACTLY what the bastards want.

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