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99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 06:16 PM Feb 2016

Bobby Mook, Clinton Campaign Mgr. "Bernie has some explaining to do" re: Martha's Vineyard

Bernie "raising 100s of thousands of dollars from establishment lobbyists for his Senate
campaign in Vermont".

Chuck Todd: "well, i guess he will need to answer to that" ..

When is Bernie going to put this one to rest, in the graveyard of bogus & ridiculous attacks
on Bernie by Hillary people, now about those Martha's Vineyards gigs.

My understand it that those were raising money for ALL US Senators the Democrats want
to see RE-ELECTED, that there were many sources of funds (not just corporate lobbyists),
and that by participating, Bernie was actually supporting other Dems, running for US Senate
and not just his own campaigns.

Do I have this ^ wrong? Is there some big 'scandal' here? Seems to me if Bernie had NOT
participated he'd be pilloried for "not being a loyal Democrat".

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Bobby Mook, Clinton Campaign Mgr. "Bernie has some explaining to do" re: Martha's Vineyard (Original Post) 99th_Monkey Feb 2016 OP
It is no scandal Kelvin Mace Feb 2016 #1
So my take on it is correct .. is that what you're saying? 99th_Monkey Feb 2016 #8
Yes, Kelvin Mace Feb 2016 #17
I SO want the Bernie camp to slam this into the trashcan, with a heavy dose of reality 99th_Monkey Feb 2016 #24
The corporate media Kelvin Mace Feb 2016 #36
I have already seen several posts claiming Bernie doesn't raise Dustlawyer Feb 2016 #14
Yeah that was the meme a couple of weeks ago. Both ways? jwirr Feb 2016 #22
Whatever It Takes(tm) arcane1 Feb 2016 #27
Not smart Mook! morningfog Feb 2016 #2
It is another exposé of Bernie Sanders' hypocrisy. n/t cosmicone Feb 2016 #3
Insert foot into mouth. Rocky the Leprechaun Feb 2016 #7
Whine that Bernie doesn't fundraise for dems cali Feb 2016 #9
Why don't you make up your friggin' mind? Just two weeks ago, you and your cohort KingCharlemagne Feb 2016 #11
^^^THIS^^^ beam me up scottie Feb 2016 #32
Bobby definitely acts like a Mook. hobbit709 Feb 2016 #4
The Clinton Campaign lies and distorts. It's what they do. It's who they are. Maedhros Feb 2016 #5
By hook or by crook madokie Feb 2016 #35
This Sanders supporter goes, 'nope' Rocky the Leprechaun Feb 2016 #6
I heard he had BREAKFAST with business owners too! beam me up scottie Feb 2016 #10
And I'll bet Bernie tipped the waitress, trying to "buy" her vote. 99th_Monkey Feb 2016 #21
I bet he ate something other than bread and water too, PROVING he doesn't empathize with the poor! beam me up scottie Feb 2016 #23
I think that was just campaign talk, and Chuck's response seemed blah. Punkingal Feb 2016 #12
Glass houses. nt thereismore Feb 2016 #13
I just saw that and the stupid smirk after. Nanjeanne Feb 2016 #15
Yes, that smirk was telling 99th_Monkey Feb 2016 #29
How did Divine's answer sound to you? Was it effective? nt 99th_Monkey Feb 2016 #31
I've been to the event with Bernie... brooklynite Feb 2016 #16
And if he had refused to attend and help Kelvin Mace Feb 2016 #19
This involvement goes back long before Bernie was running for President... brooklynite Feb 2016 #26
But now that Bernie IS running for POTUS & being attacked as "not a REAL Democrat" 99th_Monkey Feb 2016 #34
Angus King isn't running for president and doing well against HRC Kelvin Mace Feb 2016 #37
We all need only to look in our emails to see the DSCC jwirr Feb 2016 #18
This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Feb 2016 #20
For Mook, and all those WeatherVaners frantically scouring the microfiche for Bernie scandals... AzDar Feb 2016 #25
Billy Preston was great! earthside Feb 2016 #30
The stench of despiration sure lingers in a room, does it not? seaotter Feb 2016 #28
+100 nt 99th_Monkey Feb 2016 #38
Stench? hootinholler Feb 2016 #39
The desperation is getting pretty pathetic, though comical Matariki Feb 2016 #33
 

Kelvin Mace

(17,469 posts)
1. It is no scandal
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 06:17 PM
Feb 2016

He was there to raise money for the Dems, and if he hadn't attended he would have been branded disloyal.

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
8. So my take on it is correct .. is that what you're saying?
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 06:19 PM
Feb 2016
Bernie was raising money for ALL US Senators that the Democrats
want to see RE-ELECTED, that there were many sources of funds (not just corporate lobbyists),
and that by participating, Bernie was actually supporting other Dems, running for US Senate
and not just his own campaigns.
 

Kelvin Mace

(17,469 posts)
17. Yes,
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 06:27 PM
Feb 2016

this was trotted out last month and failed. It will fail again. The strategy is classic Karl Rove, which says a lot about the HRC campaign.

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
24. I SO want the Bernie camp to slam this into the trashcan, with a heavy dose of reality
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 06:36 PM
Feb 2016

and facts to support their debunking of this, because the M$M shills are giving it a "pass" as
something that does not deserve to be challenged whatsoever... it's maddening to watch.

Dustlawyer

(10,497 posts)
14. I have already seen several posts claiming Bernie doesn't raise
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 06:25 PM
Feb 2016

money for the down ballot races and Hillary does.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
9. Whine that Bernie doesn't fundraise for dems
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 06:19 PM
Feb 2016

Turn on a dime and scream hypocrisy when he does.

 

KingCharlemagne

(7,908 posts)
11. Why don't you make up your friggin' mind? Just two weeks ago, you and your cohort
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 06:20 PM
Feb 2016

were criticizing Sanders for NOT raising money for Dems. And now you are crticizing him FOR raising money for Dems?

WTF??????

 

Maedhros

(10,007 posts)
5. The Clinton Campaign lies and distorts. It's what they do. It's who they are.
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 06:18 PM
Feb 2016

Her supporters are OK with that.

 
6. This Sanders supporter goes, 'nope'
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 06:18 PM
Feb 2016

Gotta explain all the Wall Street money first, and the continued existence of SuperPACs on Clinton's campaign.

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
21. And I'll bet Bernie tipped the waitress, trying to "buy" her vote.
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 06:32 PM
Feb 2016

The Clinton camp is more in-your-face oily and dishonest, yet it seems to be back-firing on them,
yet they keep ratcheting it up. Do they really think it's going to start paying off at some point?

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
23. I bet he ate something other than bread and water too, PROVING he doesn't empathize with the poor!
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 06:35 PM
Feb 2016

The truthiness just gets truthier all the time.

Nanjeanne

(4,975 posts)
15. I just saw that and the stupid smirk after.
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 06:25 PM
Feb 2016

Chuck didn't challenge it at all. Of course. But Devine was on after and Chuck asked him about it so he was able to respond.

They have nothing so they are trying to say Bernie is talking out of both sides of his mouth. The thing is, it could work with someone who hasn't built their political career on integrity. With Bernie it's a lot harder. People just don't buy it.

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
29. Yes, that smirk was telling
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 06:39 PM
Feb 2016

telling me he knew he was lying through his teeth and was rather enjoying it. Asshole

brooklynite

(94,721 posts)
16. I've been to the event with Bernie...
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 06:26 PM
Feb 2016

...and the event is a thank-you to anyone who contributes the max to the DSCC (approx $35,000/year). All of these contributions are from personal accounts; some of the contributors certainly have a Wall Street or corporate background; some (like me do not).

I don't think the issue is whether Bernie is or is not taking Corporate money. It's the ethos of spending time and attention with the 1%ers who can afford to provide this level of support to the Party, while playing up the merits and purity of small contribution donors. You could also argue that it goes against his "I'm against the establishment" mantra to hang out with "the Party Bosses" and their financial supporters.

 

Kelvin Mace

(17,469 posts)
19. And if he had refused to attend and help
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 06:31 PM
Feb 2016

he would have been tarred for refusing to help the party. So, lose/lose.

HRC did that fundraiser, AND took money from Wall Street which benefited her personally.

brooklynite

(94,721 posts)
26. This involvement goes back long before Bernie was running for President...
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 06:38 PM
Feb 2016

...and when he wasn't a Democrat; so nobody would have cared if he didn't. Angus King doesn't show up and nobody criticizes him for it.

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
34. But now that Bernie IS running for POTUS & being attacked as "not a REAL Democrat"
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 06:50 PM
Feb 2016

you can bet your bippy it would definitely come up and used as one more
sorry-ass microscopic shred of "evidence" to support that half-baked assertion.

 

Kelvin Mace

(17,469 posts)
37. Angus King isn't running for president and doing well against HRC
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 07:05 PM
Feb 2016

if he were, it would be an issue.

Again, this is straight out of Rove's playbook. Take the person's strength and lie like mad to make it a liability.

You would think that someone certain they will be the nominee wouldn't use such a scorched earth campaign tactic. This reminds me of 2008 when Obama came on strong.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
18. We all need only to look in our emails to see the DSCC
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 06:30 PM
Feb 2016

fund raising that he was working for. And every Democratic candidate running for Senate got some of that money. Seems to me that Mook and Chuck need to learn how this works.

Every Senator including Hillary when she was a Senatorial candidate helped to raise money.

Ignore this whole shit pile - it is just Hillary and her politics as usual.

Response to 99th_Monkey (Original post)

earthside

(6,960 posts)
30. Billy Preston was great!
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 06:44 PM
Feb 2016

I'll bet he would have support Bernie as a "soldier in the war on poverty ...!

Matariki

(18,775 posts)
33. The desperation is getting pretty pathetic, though comical
Tue Feb 9, 2016, 06:48 PM
Feb 2016

That they don't think this is going to backlash on them, and hard, is sort of amazing in itself.

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