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Hell Hillary, all of us democrats have been critical of Obama at times...... (Original Post) Logical Feb 2016 OP
It's all she's got. n/t TDale313 Feb 2016 #1
No - she has a friend SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2016 #8
Well, that's what Hillary does, panders, bobs & weaves, wrapping herself 99th_Monkey Feb 2016 #2
+100000 azmom Feb 2016 #3
Yes but... moondust Feb 2016 #4
You can't say that RobertEarl Feb 2016 #5
And she has been one of the most critical of all in the past! nt m-lekktor Feb 2016 #6
+1 AtomicKitten Feb 2016 #14
Her if you criticize me you criticize our great black President routine is so lame jfern Feb 2016 #7
The more she goes this route... TTUBatfan2008 Feb 2016 #11
I wonder if Hillary would be so anti-obama criticism if he were not so loved by African Americans. Ed Suspicious Feb 2016 #9
I don't. TDale313 Feb 2016 #10
Yes. There are a lot of things I have criticized Obama for, the biggest being taking the public Feeling the Bern Feb 2016 #12
Obviously you are unfamiliar with the bog dwellers. Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2016 #13
 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
2. Well, that's what Hillary does, panders, bobs & weaves, wrapping herself
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 01:43 AM
Feb 2016

in the "Obama Legacy" going into SC, thinking that will garner her more AA voters.

moondust

(20,014 posts)
4. Yes but...
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 01:49 AM
Feb 2016

we're not trying to exploit our cozy relationship with the first black President who got about 95% of the black vote in 2008 and 2012.

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
5. You can't say that
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 01:49 AM
Feb 2016

You will hurt Obama's feelings!
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What fresh hell we endure.

I'm even having to read a DUer trying to tell us we are crazy for talking about Kissinger!

jfern

(5,204 posts)
7. Her if you criticize me you criticize our great black President routine is so lame
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 01:50 AM
Feb 2016

Don't people remember what the 2008 primary was like?

TTUBatfan2008

(3,623 posts)
11. The more she goes this route...
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 02:00 AM
Feb 2016

The more people will start looking back at the 2008 campaign and realize that she has been about as harsh on Obama as anyone.

Ed Suspicious

(8,879 posts)
9. I wonder if Hillary would be so anti-obama criticism if he were not so loved by African Americans.
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 01:51 AM
Feb 2016

The whole line serves two purposes to my mind, one legit, the other cold, calculating, and panderific.

1) She's selling slow and steady change. To criticize Obama is to criticize slow the perception of incremental change. It ties in with her don't scrap ACA bit. This sounds fair to me. This is about the issues.

2) AA's on average love and take pride in the Obama presidency. She can exploit her chosen position to curry favor with that community. She needs the AA community to perceive her to be on their side. It's cheap, calculated and exploitative. After all, she was the original Obama critic.

TDale313

(7,820 posts)
10. I don't.
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 01:57 AM
Feb 2016

We all know that's why she's doing this. Paint Bernie as disrespecting the President they very much respect and stand behind.

 

Feeling the Bern

(3,839 posts)
12. Yes. There are a lot of things I have criticized Obama for, the biggest being taking the public
Fri Feb 12, 2016, 04:42 AM
Feb 2016

option out of the ACA from the beginning in order to attempt to secure the vote of either Olympia Snowe or Susan Collins.

Both voted against the ACA anyway.

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