What was Hillary doing when Bernie was arrested while demonstrating for desegregated public schools

[awake]

In Chicago in the early 1960s?

Update having googled this question I found that "She was a high-school Young Republican and "Goldwater Girl" in 1964"

[boston bean]

1. Probably in middle school.

[cali]

3. Nope. 17 and working on Goldwater's campaign.

But you knew that.

[boston bean]

5. So she was in high school?

[frazzled]

13. In August 1963 ... Hillary Clinton was 15 years old. ( born in October 1947)

Bernie was 21.

Like your Leader, you seem to like to play free and fancy with facts, making them up because ... facts are so unimportant.

Now, let's hear your screed against 15-year-old girls.

[awake]

18. Ok what was Hillary doing when she was 21?

[frazzled]

42. According to reports ...

While a student at Wellesley, 1965-69, she was:

• campaigning for Eugene McCarthy for president, organizing the school's first teach-ins on the Vietnam War. She wrote her senior thesis on poverty and community development. She graduated in 1969 with a degree in political science.

• appeared as a contestant on the television quiz show College Bowl.

• In 1969, she appeared in Life magazine after giving the first commencement speech by a student at Wellesley. She received a standing ovation after shocking the audience by criticizing the first speaker, Sen. Edward W. Brooke (Republican).

Just after:

• In the summer of 1970, she heard Marian Wright Edelman speak, inspiring her to volunteer to work for Edelman's Washington Research Project, which later became the Children's Defense Fund. While there, she interviewed the families of migrant laborers and reported her findings to Walter Mondale's Senate subcommittee

What about race specifically (aside from the interest in poverty, community development and working to start an Upward Bound program at the school):

On no subject did Rodham evolve as significantly as she did on race. She had come to Wellesley from a white suburb where contact with blacks was all but unheard of, where blacks were still referred to by some as “colored.” Rodham had had at least some minimal exposure to blacks through her youth minister, Rev. Jones, who had brought a group of young people from Rodham’s Park Ridge church into Chicago to meet with black gang members. In 1962, Jones had taken Rodham and others into the city to meet a young preacher, Rev. Martin Luther King Jr.

Perhaps in part as a result of these experiences, Rodham arrived at Wellesley with the clear intent of learning more about blacks.

During one of her first weeks at school, she made a point of inviting a black woman to go with her to Sunday church services. It was, in those times, an act of some daring.
...

Though she cared passionately about larger problems of war, race and poverty, she was a pragmatist who knew that her greatest impact could be felt on campus working to change the college.

She did not shun the committee drudgery through which change was made, but embraced it, working on campus issues large and small. She pushed for a pass- fail grading option. She worked on a better system for returning library books. She supported increasing the number of black students and faculty members. She worked on changing parietal hours, and on reducing the number of required courses. She pushed for a summer Upward Bound program for inner-city kids on the Wellesley campus.

...

Rodham worked at learning about blacks and urban issues and was one of the first Wellesley students to enroll in a new urban sociology class in the fall of 1967. The instructor, Steve London, remembers Rodham as one of a fairly small number of students “who consistently and continuously demonstrated a very real concern with the nature of race relations.” ...Just about a month after King’s assassination, Rodham and other students were involved in a two-day strike on campus. Rather than go to class they organized workshops and attended teach-ins.

More at https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/politics/1993/01/12/hillary-the-wellesley-years/OEapzWGuzSNAFiIHL2zm9K/story.html

[awake]

43. Thank you I have posted a thread about what I found that she did when she was 21

I found her work back then inspiring

[lunamagica]

2. She was in Jr. high?

[Empowerer]

4. What was Bernie doing during the Montgomery Bus Boycott?

Hey, this is fun!

Ok, your turn!

[snot]

10. I don't know. What was Hillary doing?

I'd be genuinely interested in learning more about her accomplishments.

[Empowerer]

14. I'd like to discuss both of their civil rights records, but apparently that's not allowed here

Well, at least questions about Sanders' record aren't allowed here since they get alerted and hidden . . .

Hillary, of course, is fair game.

[beam me up scottie]

16. You alerted on this? Why on earth would you want to hide the op?

[senz]

17. Thanks for admitting that the HRC camp is DESPERATE to lie about this issue.

Because the fact is, Bernie is a lifelong supporter of civil rights for poc and your candidate has never, ever championed them. She has never even taken an interest in them -- except to chortle about her "white" support in 2008.

That is the truth. Now all you have left is this base attempt to cover up for your candidate.

[Empowerer]

22. If you are so proud of his "lifelong" record, why do Bernie supporters rush to shut down any OP

asking for details about that record?

We're constantly being told that Bernie has been "fighting for civil rights for POCs" for decades, but when we ask for examples, the posts are alerted and hidden.

You are so quick to make the claim, why are you afraid to answer the question?

[senz]

25. I don't believe you.

I have seen NO SIGN of anyone forbidding an examination of Bernie's well-known, documented record on Civil Rights.

And you know as well as I do that your candidate has none. None.

[arcane1]

29. B-b-but they're Just Asking Questions!!!111

[Empowerer]

33. Maybe you have seen no sign because the minute they're posted, they get alerted and hidden

But maybe we can have this conversation without getting shut down.

We often hear that Sanders has fought for civil rights for the past 50 years. I'm well aware of and admire his work in the 1960s. But can you help me better understand what he has done to fight for civil rights for POC since 1968?

Thanks.

[notadmblnd]

32. Did you see the vidoe posted here where she said that AA youth had to be brought to heel?

Isn't heeling something one would train a dog to do? Says something about HRC doesn't it?

[Ferd Berfel]

6. Another way to say that would be

Bernie started his career organizing for civil rights and getting arrested in the process while working for the people - Obviously that stayed with him.



Hillary started her career as a Republican, on the board of Walmart working for the 1%. I guess that stayed with her too


I'm with Bernie; the guy who has been on my side all of his adult life.

[AzDar]

7. ^ This.

[senz]

19. +1000

Well said, Ferd.

[KingFlorez]

8. Where was Bernie during the lynchings of the 40s?

Seems like he would have been out there protesting.

[senz]

20. When did Hillary EVER take an interest in Civil Rights?

She had plenty of chances but never did.

[Ferd Berfel]

23. Point senz !

[Hortensis]

46. There is no excuse for ignorance, real or pretended.

This is the information age. The truth is literally seconds away in virtually every direction you might look, Senz and Ferd.

[Ferd Berfel]

47. There is no excuse for ignorance, - yep!

When Bernie was 21 he was arrested while demonstrating for desegregated public schools

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1214136

[frazzled]

44. See my post above

detailing her in-depth studies of race, community development, and poverty in college, where she worked to get an Upward Bound program for inner-city kids, fought for more black students and faculty, organized protests and teach-ins after the assassination of MLK, became a friend and advocate of the black women at her school, and after graduation, went on to investigate the living conditions of migrant families for what would become the Children's Defense fund. Among other things.

What did Bernie Sanders ever ACCOMPLISH for race? There are people who DO things, and gain expertise in things, and there are people who pay a $25 fine and wear it as a badge for 50 years.

[livetohike]

9. She was 13 years old in October 1960. Graduated High School in 1965.

😊

[senz]

21. And did she support Civil Rights in the Sixties? Seventies? Ever?

Nope.

[whatchamacallit]

11. This is why there's an attempt to erase Bernie's reputation with this picture nonsense

If you can make Bernie appear to be a fraud, then AA's will be less troubled about supporting someone with an abysmal civil rights record.

[senz]

24. ^^This^^

We are now entering the realm of the Big Clinton Lie in this campaign.

We must fight it. Thank you for an insightful comment.

[arcane1]

30. Exactly n/t

[senz]

12. Someone actually alerted on this OP.

Blatant censorship. I'm surprised it wasn't 0-7, but there must have been a "censor" on the jury.
__________________________________________________________

On Fri Feb 12, 2016, 01:48 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

What was Hillary doing when Bernie was arrested while demonstrating for desegregated public schools
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511213612

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

Flamebait. OPs asking what Bernie has done for civil rights have been hidden as disruptive flamebait. If that's the standard, this certainly qualifies

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Fri Feb 12, 2016, 01:52 PM, and the Jury voted 1-6 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Not hide-worthy.
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Ridiculous alert.
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: LOL pretty lame for flamebait. I say let them get their ass handed to them.
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Totally weird attempt to hide a nothing post. I usually see at least something that caused an alert. This post is somewhat sarcastic given the news yesterday but contains nothing at all in it that is abusive. From the alert explanation it is them that probably should be censored
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Seriously? It is not "against the rules" to ask about a candidate's experience.
Juror #7 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given

Thank you very much for participating in our Jury system, and we hope you will be able to participate again in the future.

(I was Juror #6).

[NaturalHigh]

15. And posted an OP about alerting on it.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/118739691


Strange times.

[randys1]

26. Wasnt a thread asking what Bernie was doing etc hidden? double standard much?

[senz]

31. Got link?

Because otherwise I don't believe you.

And just for the record, I never believed your claim to be a Bernie supporter either.

[Empowerer]

34. Here you go:

Can you help us better understand what Sanders has done to fight for civil rights since 1968?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511197571

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

This is a repeat of an earlier locked post. Its flamebait

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511196116


JURY RESULTS

A randomly-selected Jury of DU members completed their review of this alert at Wed Feb 10, 2016, 11:59 PM, and voted 4-3 to HIDE IT.

Juror #1 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: Auto hide for this one.
Juror #2 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: The first thread was locked by a hidden post. I think the question isn't being asked entirely in good faith, but that's par for the course. I think it was locked due to a bad jury, so I won't vote to hide this one.
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #5 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: Repeat...I remember it. Hide.
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: This line of discussion is clearly important to a lot of DUers. Maybe it's not posed in the most harmonious way, but it's not over the top. The alerter can just ignore it.
Juror #7 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given

[randys1]

35. Yep

http://www.democraticunderground.com/118739691



And the fact that you refuse to believe someone who is honest and open minded as I have been on who I am supporting could therefore not be a Bernie supporter, says way more about you than you realize.

[BillZBubb]

38. If it's any consolation, I don't believe you either.

[randys1]

40. lol GOOD ONE

The arrogance of some of you,

has to make me laugh...

I have been around this game longer than most of you have been alive, probably.

So funny

[valerief]

27. Some things never change.

[bravenak]

28. High school

Where was Bernie during the bus boycott?

[LexVegas]

36. She was 15. nt

[BillZBubb]

37. The Clintons are using classic negative campaigning.

Take a strength of your opponent and sling as much garbage as you can to cast doubt on it. The most familiar example is the Swiftboating of John Kerry. What the Clinton camp is trying to do to Bernie on civil rights is an exact copy.

Remember the Swift boaters got guys from other boats to disparage Kerry's heroics. Just like that the Clinton's trot out John Lewis and Al Sharpton to go after Sanders' credibility. Pretty sickening really.

[Bluenorthwest]

39. While Hillary was promoting DOMA, Bernie was voting against it. Later when she was defending it

he was speaking against it.

[BillZBubb]

41. But you can't blame Hillary, she was being pragmatic and getting things done.

Bernie was just being a clueless utopian.

[zappaman]

45. Oh, this again?

[SheenaR]

48. I can't be the only one

who pictures her having been like the character of Tracy Flick in the movie "Election" starring Reese Witherspoon and Mathew Broderick. That's what I see when I go into my mind's eye