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WI_DEM

(33,497 posts)
1. Well I have to agree after the last few days on DU it is irritating
Sun Oct 7, 2012, 01:34 PM
Oct 2012

and basically I don't find PPP a Democratic or Republican pollster--I find them to be (usually) pretty accurate and responsible. They constantly have GOP idiots tweeting a bunch of idiocy about their polls and now I get the feeling that democrats can't accept that Obama's lead in WI is 2-points as if WI is some GD Blue state without taking into account that we lost the recall & in 2010 we lost Feingold and the governor's race, and that in 2000 and 2004 Gore and Kerry won by razor thin margins. 2012 will not be a blow out like 2008 was.

patrice

(47,992 posts)
2. Please differentiate between Liberals & what calls itself "the Left" these days & factor in
Sun Oct 7, 2012, 01:40 PM
Oct 2012

internet anonymity for the bullshit factor.

Jennicut

(25,415 posts)
4. The PPP sample in WI was only D+1 per a tweet on PPP.
Sun Oct 7, 2012, 05:03 PM
Oct 2012

And 60% of the voters there were over 45. In 2008 it was D+6 and 50% under 45.
I think PPP did not set out to get this lower D voter ID # and older voters in their sample, it just occurred naturally. If the sample is in between this and the one in 2008, then I think WI will be fine. It will not be like 2008 but it will probably be plus 5.

But PPP is a good pollster, no need to whine. Romney got a small bounce but it is not insurmountable for Obama to get a bounce in the next two debates, VP and Pres.

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