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bigdarryl

(13,190 posts)
Sun Oct 7, 2012, 04:03 PM Oct 2012

Chucky Todd: The democrats have a big problem and its the republicans are ahead in enthusiasm

Old chuck cheese is at it again no way I believe the rethugs are ahead in enthusiasm not from what I read hear on DU with people posting there in the fields like crazy helping to get out the vote.This Wall Street poll is full of shit Mike Papantanio predicted before the weekend that the media types would make this a horse race favoring Romney. If you look at the Gallup polling and a few others the polling hasn't shifted in a dramatic way as the Wall Street poll suggest http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/07/chuck-todd-republican-voters_n_1946586.html

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Chucky Todd: The democrats have a big problem and its the republicans are ahead in enthusiasm (Original Post) bigdarryl Oct 2012 OP
LOL...now there's a whole lotta projection. chelsea0011 Oct 2012 #1
So that's why we see Rmoney signs in every yard C_U_L8R Oct 2012 #2
Actually, in my Northern VA neighborhood, they ARE all over the place... Sad, but true... liberallibral Oct 2012 #53
Nonsense. A handful of batshit crazies running around with teabags is not enthusiasm. geckosfeet Oct 2012 #3
Cheer leading is their forte , Trickie Dick to orpupilofnature57 Oct 2012 #4
Inside-the-Beltway myopia NHDEMFORLIFE Oct 2012 #5
Oh please.... RichGirl Oct 2012 #6
LOL! They make Cha Oct 2012 #15
I totally agree with you. BlueCaliDem Oct 2012 #27
guess thats the reason i have seen a grand total of one Romney bumper sticker(s)... oldhippydude Oct 2012 #7
Chuck Todd can't show a reasonable poll with Romney winning, and the GOP Senate hopes alcibiades_mystery Oct 2012 #8
And saying only 50 some percent Hispanics are excited about voting this year I don't believe that bigdarryl Oct 2012 #10
I live in Gwinnett county wilt the stilt Oct 2012 #9
Gwinnett here as well DerelictDeminGA Oct 2012 #42
there are never Obama signs in Gwinnett county wilt the stilt Oct 2012 #50
From what I see he right. But I do live in redneck country. In this part of Ohio there aren't that doc03 Oct 2012 #11
Watching early votes for Ohio and imo it doesn't look good for Rmoney. LiberalFighter Oct 2012 #17
I voted Tuesday myself n/t doc03 Oct 2012 #21
Lucky dawg! BlueCaliDem Oct 2012 #29
So that's why Romney's crowds are so much bigger than Prez O's BeyondGeography Oct 2012 #12
When I went out to run an errand yesterday I noticed two new Romney/Ryan yard signs Grammy23 Oct 2012 #13
Until Nate Silver comes out with a under 50% prediction rate for Obama I'm not buying bigdarryl Oct 2012 #16
Same with me in VA 2theleft Oct 2012 #45
Fuck Chuck. He's tapping dancing as fast as he can Cha Oct 2012 #14
Chuck Toad is a spook for the GOP LiberalFighter Oct 2012 #18
Show us some rally crowd pics, Mr. Toady! SoapBox Oct 2012 #19
An enthusiastic vote Mz Pip Oct 2012 #20
It's hard to gauge reality when your head is stuck up your own ass lunatica Oct 2012 #22
Would be intersting to see the 2000 enthusiasm vs 2004 when Bush ran for reelection bigdarryl Oct 2012 #23
Hear is what the enthusiasm was just 18 days ago bigdarryl Oct 2012 #24
Republicans have MORE enthusiasm? cheriemedium59 Oct 2012 #25
This is a myth that they are attempting to make reality notadmblnd Oct 2012 #26
Closet conservative tarheelsunc Oct 2012 #28
Where did he pull that out of? brush Oct 2012 #30
Good one !!!! orpupilofnature57 Oct 2012 #31
What about Obama's fundraising records: $150 million and recordbreaking number of small donors? Justice Oct 2012 #32
He's citing NBC polls NCLefty Oct 2012 #33
Because like republican, democrats hate polls that they do not like. JRLeft Oct 2012 #34
because if this was a football game it would be the equivilent Cosmocat Oct 2012 #37
Dicey analogy NCLefty Oct 2012 #38
WTF are you talking about Cosmocat Oct 2012 #47
Is he or isn't he? NCLefty Oct 2012 #35
Enthusiasm for Obama/Biden is huge in Washington State :)) northernsky61 Oct 2012 #36
I would love to see a meltdown, Curmudgeoness Oct 2012 #39
Hey, northernsky61! Control-Z Oct 2012 #46
Old Fuck Todd is shilling for repukes again, I see. Zoeisright Oct 2012 #40
Nice try Chuckles... Blue Idaho Oct 2012 #41
Hardcore projectionism if there ever was such a thing........ AverageJoe90 Oct 2012 #43
Todd is very annoying. GallopingGhost Oct 2012 #44
Surprise, surprise, Chuck Todd's lying again. Arkana Oct 2012 #48
billions buy lots of republican enthu$ia$m. To bad those political charitie$ are tax free. Sunlei Oct 2012 #49
What a moran. Mixing up hatred with enthusiam. madinmaryland Oct 2012 #51
Chuck Todd needs a soul. hrmjustin Oct 2012 #52
Chuck Toad...really yawn. Historic NY Oct 2012 #54
 

liberallibral

(272 posts)
53. Actually, in my Northern VA neighborhood, they ARE all over the place... Sad, but true...
Mon Oct 8, 2012, 12:40 PM
Oct 2012

Two Obama signs (myself and one other neighbor down the block), and about 20 Romney signs around the mine and nearby blocks... I kid you not...

geckosfeet

(9,644 posts)
3. Nonsense. A handful of batshit crazies running around with teabags is not enthusiasm.
Sun Oct 7, 2012, 04:05 PM
Oct 2012

It's a handful of batshit crazies running around with teabags.

 

orpupilofnature57

(15,472 posts)
4. Cheer leading is their forte , Trickie Dick to
Sun Oct 7, 2012, 04:09 PM
Oct 2012

Shrub, usurping victories & tragedies that belong to our country .

NHDEMFORLIFE

(489 posts)
5. Inside-the-Beltway myopia
Sun Oct 7, 2012, 04:09 PM
Oct 2012

They only talk to one another, digest all polls that can be used to back up their theories, and proceed to bellow their insight to the rest of us regular people who are too stupid to challenge them

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
27. I totally agree with you.
Sun Oct 7, 2012, 06:10 PM
Oct 2012

Just to name a few things . . . we've seen his first term and the progress we've made. We see UE numbers drop. We see voter suppressors attacked and neutered. We see the economy rise (people are spending like nuts again). We see jobs added 31 consecutive months, and we all have seen an effective CoC of our Military.

I dare say now, President Obama will go down in history as one of the best presidents this country has ever had the honor of electing.

I'm with you, RichGirl.

oldhippydude

(2,514 posts)
7. guess thats the reason i have seen a grand total of one Romney bumper sticker(s)...
Sun Oct 7, 2012, 04:10 PM
Oct 2012

and no yard signs....they must be using psychic powers beyond the abilities of us mere mortal Democrats..

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
8. Chuck Todd can't show a reasonable poll with Romney winning, and the GOP Senate hopes
Sun Oct 7, 2012, 04:11 PM
Oct 2012

are in shambles, so he hangs his hat on some cross-tab enthusiasm.

A pathetic display.

 

bigdarryl

(13,190 posts)
10. And saying only 50 some percent Hispanics are excited about voting this year I don't believe that
Sun Oct 7, 2012, 04:15 PM
Oct 2012

If your Hispanic or know Hispanics please post if there planning on voting

 

wilt the stilt

(4,528 posts)
9. I live in Gwinnett county
Sun Oct 7, 2012, 04:15 PM
Oct 2012

ground zero for republicans. I have been watching for signs and I saw a total of 10 signs in a place that would normally have hundreds.

DerelictDeminGA

(44 posts)
42. Gwinnett here as well
Sun Oct 7, 2012, 11:00 PM
Oct 2012

Our neighborhood has roughly 200 homes. For kicks, I drove through the entire neighborhood, counting Romney yard signs. A total of 12. 4 years ago, there were at least 50 McCain signs. I'm frustrated I can't find any Obama signs.

doc03

(35,345 posts)
11. From what I see he right. But I do live in redneck country. In this part of Ohio there aren't that
Sun Oct 7, 2012, 04:29 PM
Oct 2012

many Romoney signs but there are 20 times as many anti Obama signs than Obama signs. I have also traveled through much of rural PA, MD, VA,
WV and the Stop the War on Coal Fire Obama signs are everywhere.

LiberalFighter

(50,943 posts)
17. Watching early votes for Ohio and imo it doesn't look good for Rmoney.
Sun Oct 7, 2012, 04:43 PM
Oct 2012

More early votes than in 2008. And breakdown overwhelmingly Democrats voting.

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
29. Lucky dawg!
Sun Oct 7, 2012, 06:13 PM
Oct 2012

California hasn't started yet although I did get the General Election mag from the city. That means our ballots will come in this week! :cheering:

BeyondGeography

(39,374 posts)
12. So that's why Romney's crowds are so much bigger than Prez O's
Sun Oct 7, 2012, 04:30 PM
Oct 2012

Or not. Todd doesn't realize it, but his poll only measures relative hate.

Grammy23

(5,810 posts)
13. When I went out to run an errand yesterday I noticed two new Romney/Ryan yard signs
Sun Oct 7, 2012, 04:35 PM
Oct 2012

That were not there before. I saw another one or two more on the route I was driving. None of this surprised me, just that it took so long to see any signs. In 2008, these same neighbors had signs much earlier in the campaign season. In fact, I have seen so few yard signs and bumper stickers this year that I was even wondering if they had gone out of style and were not being used by the campaigns. One thing I did notice when I looked on the websites of the candidates was the cost for the signs. I think I remember them being something $20 bucks which is more than I remember paying for my Obama sign in 2008. (My yard sign kept being moved and that spooked me quite a bit. I have read about violence and threats of violence here and other places and have chosen not to get a sign this year.)

In any case, if there is a bump in enthusiasm for Mitt/Paulie, that might get blunted after the debate with Biden and Ryan. I am counting on Biden taking that little punk down a notch or two. Oh, and exposing him for the heartless bastard that he is. Choir-boy face not withstanding......

2theleft

(1,136 posts)
45. Same with me in VA
Mon Oct 8, 2012, 12:12 AM
Oct 2012

Last week in my neighborhood, one Obama sign (besides mine) and zero R/R/Allen. Today - 2 Obama and 10 R/R/Allen.. big sigh. Good news is it is a huge red area and there are a TON less than in '08. I'm taking that as a positive.

Another positive...in the city, in the more affluent neighborhoods, ...TONS more O's than R's. And THAT is a sight to see.

Cha

(297,289 posts)
14. Fuck Chuck. He's tapping dancing as fast as he can
Sun Oct 7, 2012, 04:38 PM
Oct 2012

for the corporatemediawhoredom.

Push him back on Twitter.. he loves that!

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
19. Show us some rally crowd pics, Mr. Toady!
Sun Oct 7, 2012, 04:51 PM
Oct 2012

Because the ones for the President, are pretty freak'n awesome.

Mz Pip

(27,450 posts)
20. An enthusiastic vote
Sun Oct 7, 2012, 05:08 PM
Oct 2012

counts just as much as a less than enthusiastic vote.

So GOTV even if you aren't jumping for joy to do so

 

bigdarryl

(13,190 posts)
24. Hear is what the enthusiasm was just 18 days ago
Sun Oct 7, 2012, 05:38 PM
Oct 2012

It just goes to show that these polls are erratic and with 30 days to go this will most likely change again http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/pew-poll-obama-51-romney-43_652719.html

brush

(53,785 posts)
30. Where did he pull that out of?
Sun Oct 7, 2012, 06:13 PM
Oct 2012

Where did he pull that out of, his head or his a _ _? There's no lack of enthusiasm in all the people that I've registered. In fact they're eager to register, with many telling me they want to vote for Obama. And we've out registered repugs 2 to 1 here in Las Vegas. This conjecture of his I guess is why he's known as Chuck Toad.

Justice

(7,188 posts)
32. What about Obama's fundraising records: $150 million and recordbreaking number of small donors?
Sun Oct 7, 2012, 07:08 PM
Oct 2012

This suggests - no shows - huge enthusiasm!!!

NCLefty

(3,678 posts)
33. He's citing NBC polls
Sun Oct 7, 2012, 07:13 PM
Oct 2012
Republicans have an "across the board" enthusiasm advantage over Democrats in NBC's polls that is the opposite of how the electorate looked four years ago.

Seventy-nine percent of Republican voters are "extremely interested" in the election, compared to 73 percent of Democrats. In 2008, Democrats led in this measurement by 13 points, Todd said.


And he's saying he thinks that's a problem (and if it's true, it is). I don't get it. Why does this make him a traitor exactly? 32 posts of people bashing Chuck Todd over this? O.o

Cosmocat

(14,565 posts)
37. because if this was a football game it would be the equivilent
Sun Oct 7, 2012, 08:32 PM
Oct 2012

and it was half way through the fourth quarter and the blue team was up 20 to 10 over the red team, it would be the equivalent of saying the blue team was in trouble because the red team cheer leaders were screaming louder.

NCLefty

(3,678 posts)
38. Dicey analogy
Sun Oct 7, 2012, 08:35 PM
Oct 2012

The cheerleaders here all get to affect the outcome.

So what's the solution... should everyone who is going to vote Obama say only positive things about him and his campaign for the next month, no matter what they really think? Silencing people is the specialty of the other party (so I thought).

Cosmocat

(14,565 posts)
47. WTF are you talking about
Mon Oct 8, 2012, 11:12 AM
Oct 2012

Calling Chuck Todd for the corporatist POS he is has nothing to do with your or anyone else.

It is important because it if partisan framing driven to influence the thinking of the electorate by a media source who is supposedly unbiased.

The Rs and Romney have been behind in nearly every way most of this election, I never heard or read Chuck Todd say "they are in trouble" at any point.

NCLefty

(3,678 posts)
35. Is he or isn't he?
Sun Oct 7, 2012, 08:03 PM
Oct 2012
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251125029

Joan Walsh: Sunday best: Chuck Todd loses it

He blasts Jack Welch for "corroding trust in our government" while Paul Krugman drives Mary Matalin insane

northernsky61

(1 post)
36. Enthusiasm for Obama/Biden is huge in Washington State :))
Sun Oct 7, 2012, 08:06 PM
Oct 2012

I think the enthusiasm to get out and vote is variable from State to State and different counties within those States. I live in two vastly politically different States: WA (Seattle) and AZ (Glendale) In WA State (west---coastal area like Seattle people are totally Obama crazy and that really pumps me up.) Just recently I traveled to my house in AZ for my 6 months of snow-bird fun and this is totally ROMNEYLIARVILLE (puke) I actually stopped looking at the polls because it was driving me nuts, and actually depressing me. The polls are all over the place, but I am assuming since the debate where Obama wasn't exactly at his finest (who the hell would have figured Obama would come across like a whipped dog?) Well, the debate is over so forward and upward, and I am assuming Obama might just give a bit of whip ass to that psychopathic flip-flopper. I personally think that in the next couple of weeks before the town-hall debate he needs to practice with a manipulating CEO/sociopath that lies about everything with a stupid ass grin on his face because he believes his own lies. All Obama needs to do, in a presidential way, is debate with Romney with lots of questions and a conversation that includes lines like, "Governor can you explain that in detail." "Governor the American people need more of an explanation --- can you elaborate please." Or, "This is how I feel and I think Governor Romney should explain in great detail his policies." Romney (Mr. CEO) doesn't like to be asked too many questions especially if they are fired at him fast ---- he will have a melt down and feel backed in a corner, then he will say something stupid.
If this week Biden takes that boy Ryan down into a complete puddle of messed up numbers the tables will turn to Obama and enthusiasm
with be on the Dem. side. With 30 days left until election day it will be back and forth but I a quite confident that our Commander and Chief will be reelected. If Obama can get over the Syria hurdle he has it in the bag. He needs to reduce the "I am so likable" persona and for 30 days maintain continuous psychological warfare on Mr. Romney turd ------ BRING UP THE 47% AND STAY WITH THAT! I just about laughed my head off today when CNN said Romney was showing a softer side of himself --- GIVE ME A BREAK! The dude is a bad actor that needs to up his lithium dosage.

Curmudgeoness

(18,219 posts)
39. I would love to see a meltdown,
Sun Oct 7, 2012, 09:43 PM
Oct 2012

but I think that is highly unlikely......I am betting that all his debate tutorial is based on making sure that does not happen.

But we can dream, and hope it does happen.

Welcome to DU, northernsky61.

Control-Z

(15,682 posts)
46. Hey, northernsky61!
Mon Oct 8, 2012, 01:08 AM
Oct 2012

My oldest, dearest friend lives in Washington State. Sometime after he left So Cal (when we were just kids still) and a few years ago, he turned republican and actually voted for McCain in 08. He was embarrassed to admit that to me, but is happily voting for Obama this time around!! I just love this beautiful blue west coast of ours!

Welcome to DU!!

Blue Idaho

(5,049 posts)
41. Nice try Chuckles...
Sun Oct 7, 2012, 10:56 PM
Oct 2012

How much did the President take in in September? What is his campaign total again - nearly one billion dollars? What percent of donors are small donors? What was the number of new donors who entered the campaign as supporters?

What ever happened to the days when the M$M reported the news instead of trying to creating it?

 

AverageJoe90

(10,745 posts)
43. Hardcore projectionism if there ever was such a thing........
Sun Oct 7, 2012, 11:30 PM
Oct 2012

Chuck Todd is just full of shit. I've noticed, consistently, that there's been a major lack of enthusiasm not amongst Democrats, but Republicans.

GallopingGhost

(2,404 posts)
44. Todd is very annoying.
Sun Oct 7, 2012, 11:33 PM
Oct 2012

President Obama apparently doesn't have an enthusiasm problem with individual money donors, or attendance at his speeches and rallies.

And it is well-known that many in the GOP were/are lukewarm about Romney at best.

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