2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumRyan will wipe the floor with Biden
according to Ed Rollins, Republican strategist.
Until Ryan is asked about specifics.
Then it will take too long to explain.
Forty-seven percent of America is too dumb to understand anyway.
southernyankeebelle
(11,304 posts)Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)Obama isn't bald.
southernyankeebelle
(11,304 posts)Ter
(4,281 posts)Anymore.
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)GallopingGhost
(2,404 posts)I can't wait for this debate.
valerief
(53,235 posts)Yes, he's truly detestable.
coalition_unwilling
(14,180 posts)"They're smiling in your face.
All the time they want to take your place.
The backstabbbers."
valerief
(53,235 posts)graywarrior
(59,440 posts)CTyankee
(63,912 posts)Ryan IS a punk in every sense of the word.
graywarrior
(59,440 posts)His eyes are gonna bug out of his head.
dballance
(5,756 posts)I'm going to bet that given the opinion that Obama didn't do well last week the strategy for Biden will be to be very forceful. To call Ryan on his BS and make him give specifics which he does not have. And if he gives any specifics they certainly won't be favorable to the middle class if he is honest.
Biden is a long term statesman and senator. Ryan is really still a junior ass in the house.
How's that next marathon going Paul?
gateley
(62,683 posts)have to walk a fine line between aggressive and being vicious. Joe is anything but vicious, but they may be pushing him. Just my own concern, nothing I read said they were telling him to take it that far.
Swede Atlanta
(3,596 posts)I have no concern Biden will not match or defeat that little smug Papist Ryan!!!!! He is going to wipe his ass with Ryan's smirk.
TheCowsCameHome
(40,168 posts)Biden will school him good and proper.
AtomicKitten
(46,585 posts)CrazyOrangeCat
(6,112 posts)Both the text and the popcorn kitty are DUzy-worthy . . .
GallopingGhost
(2,404 posts)AtomicKitten
(46,585 posts)NCLefty
(3,678 posts)msongs
(67,417 posts)GallopingGhost
(2,404 posts)I don't know what was distracting him in the first, but it seems like he's back on top of things now.
sheckley
(7 posts)i'm really worried about future debates. i just hope rmoney gets cocky and gets caught with his pants down!
GallopingGhost
(2,404 posts)in the first debate and won't let it happen again.
It's like Judge Judy says, "If you tell the truth all the time you don't have to have a good memory."
Someone who lies as much as Romney will, in fact, get caught with his pants down!
i'm in a debate with a friend on facebook, but i didn't get to listen to the entire debate. can you help me out with the lies Rmoney spouted? mabye there is a list somewhere if its not on top of you head
GallopingGhost
(2,404 posts)if they have it at the ready.
GallopingGhost
(2,404 posts)with the lies nicely broken down.
Hope it helps!
http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/10-most-shameless-romney-debate-lies-debunked
littlemissmartypants
(22,692 posts)Welcome to DU!
mysuzuki2
(3,521 posts)But it will be Ryans. Kick some repuke ass Joe!
and-justice-for-all
(14,765 posts)Ryan, to Biden, is a snot noised little bastard.
GallopingGhost
(2,404 posts)I am looking forward to this debate, because I know what an experienced debater Biden is, and I am curious to see Ryan debate. Personally I hope Ryan gets humiliated and called out on all his lies.
and-justice-for-all
(14,765 posts)have to add the sarcasm taggy thingy....
GallopingGhost
(2,404 posts)I forget sometimes you can't convey tone through the internet. lol
And I agree completely with your assessment of Ryan!
zbdent
(35,392 posts)Rmoney ... then yes, Ryan will "mop the floor with Biden" ...
GallopingGhost
(2,404 posts)Response to GallopingGhost (Original post)
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Grammy23
(5,810 posts)To kick ass, take names and ask questions. In that order.
After last week's lackluster performance by the President (not epic fail but not stellar either) the Obama team has probably decided that they cannot afford any more weak debates. Obama's supporters were expecting him to box Romney's ears and instead got see him appearing bored, distracted and less than willing to take on Romney at all.
So that means Biden has to rip off the gloves and lay into Punk Boy right out of the shoot! And I know where I'll be. Sitting ring side, with popcorn and a good, cold drink. Kick him 'til his nose bleeds, Joe!! I'm not sure who needs the spanking more....Romney or Ryan but for Thursday night, I'll settle for Paul.
juajen
(8,515 posts)You have been visited by the DU Spelling Police. Hope your day is full of wonderful colorful words.
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)There is apparently no such word as "shute" in the English language.
juajen
(8,515 posts)You have been visited by the DU Spelling Police. Hope your day is full of wonderful, colorful words.
rock
(13,218 posts)I thought that Obama could not have been more presidential, nor Romney less presidential. But apparently many of my fellow DUer's were wanting more knock-down drag-out fisticuffs. Well, I'm pretty sure this coming Thursday will provide them with more than what they want when we find out once and for all, does Ryan scream like a little girl?
Rosa Luxemburg
(28,627 posts)and the VA and Medicaid and Social security
Biden needs to 'go for the jugular'
smorkingapple
(827 posts)He had to be tame last time because of Palin. Didn't want to come off as bullying the younger woman. There's a reason she used that "can I call you Joe" line when she walked out, they wanted to play that angle.
No need to hold back this time. No one is going to be mad at Biden if he destroys Ryan in a debate, Ryan is not popular.
If they go tame this time around too and we see a repeat of last week, I'm going postal.
Cha
(297,305 posts)a Liar.
Indpndnt
(2,391 posts)You just know he's going to get that smarmy, little smirk on his face that appeared when the AARP convention attendees started booing him.
Cha
(297,305 posts)when Lieberman debated cheney. Now, that was a little gummy pushover.
gateley
(62,683 posts)Remember? And even then, she still said it once.
Sophiegirl
(2,338 posts)...he has a lot of fire in his belly and once Ryan opens his mouth, Joe will pounce like a cat on a mouse.
BeyondGeography
(39,374 posts)gateley
(62,683 posts)Game Change, afterward Joe told the Obama team "you guys owe me - it took every ounce of discipline I had to hold back". And he still came at her with facts and knowledge. He said that Cheney was the most dangerous Vice President in the history of the US. . I loved that!
He was able to show that Palin didn't know what the fuck she was talking about but never personally attacked her.
He's good. He'll do fine.
cheezmaka
(737 posts)He must not know who "Smokin' Joe" is... Can't wait to see it!
Jennicut
(25,415 posts)Which is a good thing. A CNN poll showed more people expect Ryan to win then Biden. That can be used to his advantage. Many, many people forget then in 2007 Biden was a really good debater in the primaries. I mean, he ruined Rudy Giuliani with one phrase, "a noun, a verb, and 9/11." He was also really funny. And he handled Palin well but can be more aggressive with Ryan. I think many Repubs are in for a surprise because they never really watched the early primary debates in '07.
desertduck
(213 posts)He is off the cuff and SINCERE....which i REALLY like. & He is a seasoned politician. I have no worries as to how he will do in the debate b/c i can't see him acting in any othervway that what he already does--he speaks his mind. Skippy will throw out some bullshit and biden will respond. If anything, i think he would have to work really hard to NOT respond.
Plus, i like that he is personable and can relate to the blue collar workers just as well as the white collar workers. I think this debate will go much better....
Curtland1015
(4,404 posts)All he ever does it tell the truth and some people equate that with screwing up when you're a politician.
desertduck
(213 posts)they blow it WAAAY out of proportion to make a story out of nothing. Biden is a bulldog and that is why they quickly labeled him. mittens and his little liar get nothing but passes. so utterly pathetic...
Catlover827
(191 posts)But will set the DVR. GO JOE! Can't wait to watch this one. I'm sure all the pundits will be pontificating about Joe's "gaffes," but I like the recent definition of the word (a gaffe is when someone accidentally tells the truth).
Blue Idaho
(5,049 posts)"A noun, a verb, and 9 - 1 - 1."
GallopingGhost
(2,404 posts)Rosco T.
(6,496 posts)Chuckyoufarly
(10 posts)Thats the problem he has a way of going wild. He knows all of our concerns and he can articulate them but sometimes he goes off message trying to hit the grand slam. What we need here is solid base hits, do not go for the knock out.
No one really cares about vps to start with. Romney just pick ryan to firm up the base as romney is to liberal for most republicans. In fact Romney was very liberal in mass. Gun control check, state medical check, for abortion check, etc. He had to get Ryan to balance his record, but it means nothing they will go with Romney's plan when it is all said and done. Just like Reagan for 8 years or Clinton for 8 years , It was not about bush or gore.
This race is about Obama and Romney.
Oh and dont dismiss Ryan he is sharp as a tack and cannot be rattled. He will stay on message and he might push Joe's buttons. Biden must stay on message and not let the smart ass out of the bag. It will be fun and I hope Obama finds a better coach than Kerry before his next debate.
Indpndnt
(2,391 posts)Second, the people care about this VP contest because people, especially seniors, are aware that the little weasel wants to steal SS and Medicare from them.
Third, Lyin' gets pissy when he's questioned and we all know how accurate he is when making claims. Marathon time, anyone? He volunteers 'facts' that no one asked for, 'facts' that are easily checked and revealed to be lies! His arrogance is off the charts. If Joe pushes all of Lyin's buttons about his revered Ayn Rand, we might see real fireworks.
Personally, I can't wait for Thursday.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)geardaddy
(24,931 posts)flamingdem
(39,313 posts)Ryan Wipes
* Use them to wipe up any Paul Ryan drips from the debate floor
Blue Owl
(50,423 posts)n/t