Black voters purged from the voter rolls in FL (2000) and Bernie showed up for the emergency meeting

[Skwmom]

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to discuss how Republicans were engaging in racial voter suppression again in 2004 (yes 4 years later they were at it again). And per Greg Palast he didn't just show up to just the one meeting. How did this benefit Bernie? It didn't. It was just the right thing to do.

I am disgusted by people who say Bernie has never been there. And who has stood up on the floor of Congress and spoken out against how minorities, the working class and poor were being hurt? Bernie Sanders.

The Whitehouse and the Clinton Justice Dept would do nothing about the fact that Palast had EVIDENCE that black voters were illegally purged (at the order of Jeb Bush) in 2000. They let Bush be certified as President. I remember watching Jessie Jackson Jr. asking why ONE Senator would not stamp up and voice opposition to the certification of Bush as President.

Update: Personal story. I lived in Fl during the 2000 election. I took my preschool age child to vote with me. They even gave out a I voted sticker and my child was so proud. I read in the local paper about an African-American mother who took her son, the same age as my child to vote. They stood in line at their voting precinct only to be told their polling place had been moved. They went to the new polling precinct only to be told that it wasn't were they were to cast their vote. I want a President who passionately believes that THIS IS NOT OKAY.

The link is to Thom Hartmann's interview with Palast.

[thereismore]

1. And yet black people are invisible to him!

[MynameisBlarney]

36. That is waht they're trying to get us to believe, innit?

[Fast Walker 52]

44. or he hasn't taken time to develop a relationship with them

is what I heard on the radio last night-- Mark Thompson's show on XM-Progress.

[uponit7771]

102. OH THANK GOD!! I didn't even read this reply before I posted mine... it's like I'm banging

... my head against a brick wall for people to get its all about not coming around 2 weeks before needing votes asking for a hood pass.

Don't trod around with racialized bomb throwers and ditch em when the demos get a little time for them

Don't SOUND dismissive of ethinic issues by couching them

Have a concrete plan

[noiretextatique]

151. WTF is a "hood pass"?

given all the bs about bernie sanders' tonedeafness and the racism of his supporters, you may want to fix your fucked up post.

[noiretextatique]

150. them who?

certainly not the 4600 thems in atlanta

[Jarqui]

177. He helped create a Progressive Caucus that joined with the Black Caucus

a link to that here:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511250181#post3

and he did legislative things like this for Blacks
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511241390#post44
and this:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511241390#post57

He can't stand socializing in Washington. He goes home to Vermont whenever he can. So that may be part of the relationship problem. He was a bit of a loner at Univ of Chicago. That might have something to do with it.

Blacks have been part of his cause for social and economic justice for years. 100% NAACP ratings. I wouldn't describe him as THE leader for racial justice, etc but he has been a staunch supporter - particularly for those in most need.

[Fast Walker 52]

178. thanks-- good points

[Jarqui]

180. the legislative were just samples - not a complete list

tried to grab something on separate issues spread them out over time

Though stuff he was saying in 1991 is what he is still saying today on nearly everything I've seen.

[uponit7771]

101. The relationship is but you already know that and this strawman of an OP does too...

... whatever, sick of repeating such a simple concept.

Talk to people, not just when you need votes... damn

[farleftlib]

105. He went to FLA, which was not his state

to help minorities whose votes were stolen. He could not have benefitted in any way by doing this. He did it Because. It. Was. The. Right. Thing. To. Do.

[dana_b]

113. tone deaf, doesn't want to hear it or

won't come back to comment on it. "LALALALALALALALALA!! I can"t hear you!"

[uponit7771]

137. Those actions still don't earn him a lifetime hood pass, a relationship does though...

... and that's what HRC has ever so imperfectly

[questionseverything]

183. palast says the clinton doj was mia during the election theft of 2000

tens of thousands of blacks illegally purged from the voter roles and clinton did nothing

another 189,000 overvotes not counted, ballots where gore was punched and written in, so obviously the intent was to vote for gore

but those votes went uncounted ,mostly in black precincts because clinton would not enforce the law and let "brother in law" jeb steal the presidency for w

that is the kind of relationship you should be running from

<shrugs>

[Fast Walker 52]

117. errr, so... going to help out the AA vote was not talking to them?

[uponit7771]

138. Doing whats right by people doesn't earn them a life time hood pass.. relationships do

... and that's what folk got from HRC.

I agree with HRC, don't come asking whats up 2 weeks before needing a vote

[noiretextatique]

153. many black people despise the clintons

for several very good reasons.

[noiretextatique]

158. lifetime hood pass...please

if a bernie supporter repeatedly used this term there would be an over-wrought post to Skinner from the AA forum, with 300 recs, claiming how awfully horribly AA's are treated by awful sanders supporters. i am asking you again to stop using it. some of you who frequent that group seem to feel emboldened to do precisely what they complain about, incessantly. but you seem to think it is different when you do it...it is not.

[uponit7771]

182. I'm AA, 'hood pass' is a common term... actually is a little more polite

[noiretextatique]

184. i don't give a shit.

It is commonly offensive.

[uponit7771]

186. no its not

[forjusticethunders]

181. Relationships

Bush tried to (and to an extent succeeded, at least enough to swing states like Ohio where he got around 20% of the black vote ON TOP of 44% of Hispanics) build relationships with POC too, would he be a better candidate than Sanders?

[Aerows]

139. I have no idea why you think Hillary Clinton

is the best choice for everybody under the sun, but honey, she isn't. You aren't going to convince people that declined to vote for her in 2008 and instead voted for President Obama, and you aren't going to convince people that decline to vote for her in 2016.

Why do you want to vote for her? What policies has she advanced that has put the fire in your belly to vote for her?

Point blank question: What policy positions has Hillary Clinton taken that makes it compelling, for you as a voter, to vote for Hillary Clinton?

[uponit7771]

140. Strawman, no one thinks that... I do think her relationship and lifetime proggresive

...work means something though

Her work with women rights world wide and her willingness to change for the better

[Aerows]

142. Blunt, direct question

Why do you want to vote for Hillary Clinton, and what policies has she elaborated that give you confidence that she is the best candidate for President?

[uponit7771]

143. Last post explained,... her long term relationship with PoC... her progressive work on womens issues

... and her willingness to change for the better.

You an ask it a thousand times

[Aerows]

144. Long term association with PoC

Putting PoC in jail at a rate over 46% when Bill Clinton left office. Calling Black youth super-predators that need to be brought to heel. Taking exorbitant sums from the prison for profit industry.

I'll start there. Does that seem like a positive relationship with PoC, or does that seem like a willingness to put them in a vice and squeeze the hope and potential out of the very people that you are saying should support her?

[uponit7771]

146. Relationship, coming and talking to black people at black churches, schools, community centers

... and town halls.

Not just when she needed votes

Also, Sanders voted for some of the same laws that helped Clintons incarceration rate...

Yaw looking for a lifetime hood pass from Sanders doing what he's supposed to do

[noiretextatique]

152. so...are you the new expert on black people?

i did not get that memo.

[noiretextatique]

157. why do you keep using the term "hood pass"?

given all the recent allegations of racism from the AA forum, why should you get a pass? knock it the fuck off. thanks.

[polly7]

163. Yeah ........... that's just nasty. Not sure why it's allowed here,

but the poster should be ashamed.

[noiretextatique]

164. i alerted, to no avail

which is absurd given the load of crap coming from the AA forum. i believe this monster was created there, actually, hence her expertise on AA's, and cavalier use of that offensive term.

[polly7]

165. That she's using it over and over despite being asked not to shows she's

well aware it's offensive and enjoys doing it. It makes you wonder. No other group would be allowed to have that kind of bigotry against them remain here. It's ugly.

[noiretextatique]

167. to be fair

i think she has me on ignore. i should do the same.

[polly7]

168. Oh ... that could explain it.

But it's still not right and doesn't belong here, regardless.

[noiretextatique]

169. jury disagreed

obviously not a jury of my peers thanks for noticing.

[noiretextatique]

166. one of the

most clueless on DU, and unfortunately, prolific. thankfully, i am on her list

[noiretextatique]

154. lifetime progressive

does that include when she was a goldwater girl?

[Vinca]

2. Bernie has never put everything he does up in neon lights.

He's a humble man who is guided by his conscience. He would do it whether he was holding a government position or not because he has been doing it all his life.

[tk2kewl]

4. he's a preemptive opportunist

[Fast Walker 52]

45. LOL!

Yeah, he's trying to suck up all the good karma for himself!

[Helen Borg]

62. He is monopolizing the truth!

[Doctor_J]

135. He went there for a photo op to be used 16 years later!

he can see the future!

[JudyM]

24. +1. I have noticed that Hillary brags about her experience and Bernie just focuses on his message.

[HooptieWagon]

30. Hillary doesn't appear to learn anything by her experience.

Experience doesn't mean diddly if you keep repeating the same damn mistakes.

[Fast Walker 52]

46. or "mistakes"

Because generally the mistakes do benefit certain people.

[HooptieWagon]

110. Point noted.

[Ivan Kaputski]

60. Who needs experience when you have the oligarchy on your side?

[CorporatistNation]

108. Her List Of Such Is Interminable!

What is wrong with these democrats who ... LOOK THE OTHER WAY?

[jeff47]

127. There are some who treat experience like a checkbox.

The only important thing is "is the box checked". It doesn't matter what happened in order to get that box checked, the only thing that matters is the box.

These people do not do well when hiring others.

[HooptieWagon]

132. I shudder to think of her administration hires and appointments.

It will be the lobbyist and special interests equivilent of a shark feeding frenzy.

[JudyM]

133. Yeah, kind of weird for an intelligent person to be this way. I ascribe it to a lack of humility.

[Bill USA]

121. Interesting. I tend to discount what people say unless they can cite examples of what they have done

.. which lends credence to what they are promising. A record of what they have done also is an indicator of their ability to get results. That's pretty important to me.


I like to hear what plans they have. But, to me, what their record shows is pretty important. Now, with Obama, he hadn't been around - in politics - that long so I had to go on what he said he wanted to do and had to let the record aspect 'slide' a bit. But if people have been in politics for a while, I am very interested in how what they have done stacks up with other candidates are offering and with what they are saying they can do, if elected.

I tend to be pretty skeptical of claims of what they can accomplish unless their record backs them up.

I've always been the kind of person who discounts what people say they are going to do and prefer to see the results.

[JudyM]

125. Sure, makes sense. She's mostly going on about her status, though, how much she has seen from

her lofty perch on high. Constantly implying she has more experience. And it's gotten to the point, for me, where I don't even believe what she says any more.

[RoccoR5955]

55. But Bernie doesn't care, he's a one issue candidate.

[Enthusiast]

83. He is exactly the guy we need as president considering the level of corruption in the USA.

The corruption goes far beyond voter purges. But voter purges is a good place to start.

[SamKnause]

3. K&R

[whatchamacallit]

5. It's obvious it doesn't matter what he's done or does

the "Hillary's the one for PoC" myth MUST be maintained.

[senz]

91. ^^ This ^^

She needs her "firewall." But we'll keep pushing the truth anyway.

[LWolf]

123. Hopefully,

the supposed firewall will tumble down due to its own structural weakness.

[MelissaB]

6. Big K&R

Wish I could a thousand times.

[farleftlib]

7. Someone will undoubtedly

either deny this is true, minimize its relevance, claim he had an ulterior motive or just say "so what he's not a Democrat." Maybe all of the above.

The swiftboating never stops.

[Armstead]

8. 2004......200 Fucking Four!

12 years ago, when the presidency was far from his mind.

And he hasn't "been there."

That crap is such fucking shit

[tk2kewl]

19. in Clinton-world what happened in 2004 is irrelevant

of course it's because she was on the wrong side of most everything then, but...

[RoccoR5955]

56. Hilary has "evolved."

This week, she is on the correct side of most everything.

[tk2kewl]

58. if you put time-blinders on that's true every week

[MelissaB]

9. Every DUer should here this. This interview shoud have hundreds of recs.

Other politicians are mentioned including 2 others running for president.

[FlatBaroque]

10. Yeah but did John Lewis see him?!?

[m-lekktor]

12. DIdn't you hear? nothing anybody did years ago counts, unless you are John Lewis! nt

[John Poet]

11. BUMP K & R eom

[TIME TO PANIC]

13. K & R!

[kenfrequed]

14. Yeah...

How is this ignored by the mainstream media.

[Oilwellian]

15. Love Palast and have learned so much from his reporting

It sickens me to see the Hillary camp attack Bernie's civil rights record.

[freebrew]

179. Typical Rovian tactics...

lie about the oppositions strengths. I can see it's difficult with Bernie(his real strength is honesty), but she keeps trying.

As for the wierdo above, she sounds like a paid operative to me. Nothing she says makes sense to a reasonable person.

[angrychair]

16. Thank you Senator Sanders

Not for the glory but for what is right!

[mainer]

17. HUGE K & R

First time I've heard this. Needs to be shared everywhere.

[frylock]

18. Is this in the Sanders group? Because I'm not seeing any replies from Hillary Supporter.

Kicking for exposure.

[retrowire]

48. Notice that.

Notice that we'll regularly post pro Bernie threads in the public so they can be disputed. And notice that they'll post anti-Bernie threads in the protected bubble so they can't be disputed.

The entire Hillary campaign relies on the idea that people won't open their eyes and ears and we'll all disable our memory.

[Feeling the Bern]

111. Because Hillary supporters seem to have their memes and their talking points set

And don't confuse them with anything that changes the air in their bubble.

Their candidate's campaign is going down like it did in 2008 and instead of dealing with it and adjusting, they are doing to Sanders what the did to Obama.

IF she does lose it again, expect PUMAs to return.

[FailureToCommunicate]

20. K n R

[JRLeft]

21. It doesn't fit their narrative.

[Uncle Joe]

22. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread, Skwmom.

[azmom]

23. Kick

[WillyT]

25. HUGE K & R !!! - THANK YOU !!!

[Dragonfli]

26. kicking /nt

[noretreatnosurrender]

31. Still Angers Me

The theft of votes in Florida in the 2000 election and in other elections since then still angers the hell out of me. When I think of the "criminal class" I'm not thinking about the petty criminals that we see on our nightly news. The criminal class are the ones that have all the advantages and still break the law to benefit themselves. And after breaking the law they get rewarded not punished. It's sick. It must change.

I'm glad to hear that Bernie was there. That's the difference between those that talk a good game and those that actually DO THE JOB.

[Enthusiast]

95. This country is in deep trouble when they steal two elections with complete impunity.

Especially when they use race as a tool to purge voters. You're right, these are the criminals that concern me, the ones that would steal an election.

[SheilaT]

27. I'd forgotten about that purge of mostly black voters.

And so what has Hillary done to combat that, to get black voters back on the rolls? I don't know if she's even made a reference to it in her speeches. Surely, she has wagged her finger at Florida voting officials and told them to cut it out.

[LondonReign2]

28. Well, I'm sure Hillary would have been there too if it were not for a conflict

with a speech on Goldman's behalf.

[Harcourdt Fenton Mud]

147. She was restrained by goldman handcuffs. N/T

[JudyM]

29. K&R. Would be helpful for this to get more coverage. Nt

[renate]

32. thank you SO much for finding and posting this!

That story you told about Florida--which was just one of thousands--makes me FURIOUS. Nothing could be more un-American than keeping people from voting--except putting a thumb on the scales so that a select group of people's votes count (the ones where the line was a few minutes long) and others not at all.

[Petrushka]

33. K & R

[cali]

34. Not a single hill supporter in this thread

[Ligyron]

37. As it should be, they got nothing

'cept an ass whippin' when they even try.

[Arazi]

39. They always do this. Selective vision eom

[senz]

69. They're trying to keep anti-Bernie OPs near the top of GDP.

So they don't want to kick it.

They are getting desperate, hunkering down and throwing whatever they can.

[MisterP]

86. if they came onto these sorts of threads they couldn't write what they do write

[senz]

87. I think they're just trying to hide his record.

Gotta push that Hill.

[MisterP]

88. "push it up that Hill," perhaps

I'd admire their persistence if it weren't based on cyberbullying, claiming cyberbullying, and keeping the electorate in the dark

[senz]

94. LOL -- who else

except perhaps the very politically uninformed, would support her?

[myrna minx]

35. K&R

[LittleGirl]

38. Two of my favorite political guys

thanks for posting!

[navarth]

40. eminently kickable. KICK!

[polly7]

41. He's always been a good man fighting for what he believes in.

Makes me sad that his history of doing it is trying so hard to be scrubbed ........ that's just not right.

[NikolaC]

42. K&R

There are no words for how frustrating and upsetting it has been that Bernie's civil rights record has been consistently ignored, then questioned and belittled.

[George II]

43. I don't see a link or source of this information.

[Skwmom]

51. The link is to the interview. n/t

[senz]

71. There is no visible link, Skwmom; that needs to be fixed.

[Skwmom]

74. My duh (not yours) There is no link per se. Just hit the play button for the linked video.

[senz]

79. Yes, I realized the problem w/video links and so rendered it printable below.

Hill folk need to cast doubt on anything good about Bernie, so they require a "link" to believe it.

[cui bono]

90. Um... there's a video in the OP.

.

[Ferd Berfel]

47. Bernie's problem is that he never really toot's his own horn.

He's not much on self promotion. HE just gets it done even when he allows others to take the credit.

[casperthegm]

49. I admire him for that

But at the same time I wish his campaign would publicize this. This is exactly what we need to get out there to combat the false message that Clinton is trying to spread. Looks like it's up to us to keep the grassroots movement going and spread the word.

[frylock]

50. C'mon, Hillary Supporter!

[Skwmom]

52. This video includes a discussion of how Bush should NEVER have been certified President b/c of the

order by Jeb Bush to illegally purge black voters from the polls in Florida. I lived in Florida at the time and there was a LOT of evidence of black voter suppression.

[frylock]

54. Yep, I've read Greg Palast's 'Best Democracy...' and have been to two of his book signings/lectures.

[senz]

82. I knew you were a good guy!

[frylock]

112. Went to one of those lectures with some other outstanding DUers..

Lazurus, Haele, Mindpilot, and Joanie Baloney. It was entertaining as well as enlightening.

[senz]

149. Sounds pleasurable.

My exposure's been solely online via various politics boards, but during the Bush years, Palast's investigative reporting helped make sense of the craziness. There is so much the general public (us) just don't know.

[monicaangela]

53. Thank you for posting this Skwmom

Trickling out slowly but surely is the fact that Bernie Sanders is truthful, sincere, and has been fighting for the nation, everybody, including African American and other minority communities since he first joined the U.S. Congress.

[senz]

96. True! And even before he joined Congress.

He's been doing it since high school. It's just who he is.

[ChiciB1]

57. BUT, It Didn't Only Happen To Black People...

It also happen to ANYONE who was a convicted felon. My own son had to spend a short time in jail because of a drug conviction... need I say what?

My daughter & I went and got him a "provisional ballot" and he voted, but then we found out later that his vote was never counted! When Lawton Chiles was Governor there was no law on the books that prevented felons from voting after they served their term. My son got a 6 month conviction and got an early release after 3 months. He's white but he became eligible to vote in 2000, BUT NOT SO MUCH!

Thanks to JEBBY Bush!

[Duval]

81. That's terrible, ChiciB1. I would have been furious.

I could never understand why Gore didn't push back on this miscarriage of justice.

[ChiciB1]

107. I Never Totally Understood It Either, But Between

Bush's lawyers & the SUPREME COURT, the vote counting was stopped. At the time there were people who said Gore didn't think he was able to win against Bush's lawyers, I can't remember the main lawyer but very well known. AND if you recall there was the Clinton/Gore break up and maybe something went on behind the scenes.

We DO know that as time has passed it HAS BEEN determined that Gore did win. I didn't like Joe Lieberman much and I wondered WHY Gore chose him, still I think he would have been better than "El SmirkelRoy" (my pet name for him) even though I really didn't like Lieberman at all.

It was a HUUUUUUGGGE mess and even to this day I worry about the machines here. You can go online to check that an absentee vote was received, but there's NO WAY to find out if it ever got counted. I've tried to get THIS answer many times.

And yes, furious about what happened regarding ANY felons, but I simply DON'T trust these machines. That's why many people laugh at Florida and how we don't know how to vote!

Rick Scott is another screw up too! Headed out to go see Michael Moore's new movie/documentary that's only playing at one theater in my area. Tomorrow is the last day.

Back later...

[Mnpaul]

122. It wasn't just Gore

All we needed is one Democratic Senator to join House members in demanding we count the votes of AA voters disenfranchised in Fla. The Republicans engaged in vote caging(a felony) and Democrats refused to call out the violation of a federal restraining order against the party prohibiting vote caging.

[AzDar]

59. Preeeettty sure that's Bruce Rappaport.

[jham123]

63. LOL....the "now" running joke

[cui bono]

93. Pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty sure.

.

[AzDar]

97. ...

[beedle]

61. There must be a few hundred

"Friday with Bernie" recordings out there, assuming Thom has them archived.

I'd suggest that he should release these recordings so people can see how consistent Bernie has been over the years, and how all the issues people are saying he 'came late' to he's been involved in for ever.

[Mnpaul]

118. They can be found at the White Rose Society

going back to 2003
http://whiterosesociety.org/Hartmann.html

[2banon]

119. 1Ahh, Thanks for reminding me of the White Rose Society

We're talking many years ago, seems like yesterday.

[ananda]

64. That's Sanders!

There because it's the right thing to do.

[all american girl]

65. She was the out going first lady....what should she have done? Just asking....

[senz]

67. I bet Eleanor Roosevelt would have said something.

National figures of character and conviction speak up about significant national events. If these national figures have the heart and soul of Democrats/democrats, they don't sit by and watch injustice happening.

[all american girl]

70. OK, so no one else, who were in congress, stood up you want to blame

the out going first lady, who had spent 8 years being shit on by Republicans for everything? I think you just want to blame her.

[Skwmom]

73. It was the two for the price of one's justice dept.

[senz]

76. Okay, it's time to get a few things straight.

1) Obviously, other people showed up for the emergency meeting.

2) A good report on Bernie is not necessarily a bad report on Hillary. So you don't need to "defend" her against good Bernie reports.

3) This thread is not about Hillary, so don't take it as a criticism of her.

[senz]

66. WOW. Bernie, my man, you are true blue all the way through & that's why I love you.

Nothing but the best!

Later for the garbage.

[ellennelle]

68. what link?

i see no link.

thx

[Admiral Loinpresser]

72. Bookmarking to rebut racist bullshit of some Hillary supporters. n/t

[senz]

100. Good idea.

Needs to be done, especially as the primaries move southward (Hillary's "firewall.&quot

[Admiral Loinpresser]

170. Yes and no.

I don't have any illusions about converting the haters with facts. On the other hand there are many people of good will who can be negatively affected by lies about Bernie that are not challenged. People need to know about his amazing, lifelong record of fighting for racial equality for all people, imo.

[senz]

75. The problem is, it's a video link. I have it here in readable format:

I broke it by putting spaces in two places:

https://www. youtube.com/ watch?v=ayqmhfwEURY&feature=youtu.be

[Smarmie Doofus]

77. You are disgusted because they are *disgusting*.

>>>I am disgusted by people who say Bernie has never been there.>>>>

K and R

[uponit7771]

104. He aint, that's fact... could care less if folk are disgusted.

[TheFarS1de]

78. K&R

[Enthusiast]

80. K&R! This post deserves hundreds of recommendations!

The filthy Fascist Republicans plan to cheat again in 2016.

[senz]

84. Bernie has ALWAYS fought for minorities. It's what he does. It's who he is.

[Duval]

85. K&R!

[kgnu_fan]

89. bernie is always there for us

[historylovr]

92. K & R

[senz]

98. Kick for truth!

[Waiting For Everyman]

99. This is so typical of Bernie.

Ever since he came to Congress I've watched him on C-SPAN too many times to even estimate, very often the only one or among very few standing up for everyday people, on any issue that needed it. On any given day, those videos show him doing the same thing. And it's never for publicity.

You'd think at least a "thank you" might be nice. But no. (And that doesn't even affect him, he keeps doing it.)

Bernie lives his principles, and always has done the same as long as I've been watching his career, which is since 1990 so that's 26 years now. He's the real thing.

I'm just pleasantly amazed that he's willing to run. We couldn't do better. Go, Bernie!

[pacalo]

115. Very nice -- I agree wholeheartedly.

[uponit7771]

103. "This post was hidden by jury decision".. DANTEX

[jeff47]

130. You realize it doesn't work when it's your 4th post in the thread, right? (nt)

[uponit7771]

136. I works all the time when people are trying to shut others up

[noiretextatique]

155. i wish...take your hood pass

back to the AA forum.

[iwannaknow]

106. Yep, that's Bernie!

[Jefferson23]

109. Bernie, you are a good man. n/t

[2banon]

114. Kickin' & a Recken'

Thanks for posting ... I haven't heard Hartmann since the days of Air America folded in here in the Bay Area.. Great to hear Palast again, but omg the topic is so freaking infuriating, frustrating and depressing.

I soo sounds like it's 2000 and 2004 again.

omg.

[Major Hogwash]

116. Big kick and recommend!!

This is the type of thing everyone needs to know about Bernie, he has always stood up for equality in this country!

[2banon]

120. Kickin' & a Recken' again

just cuz..

[mountain grammy]

124. K&R

[merrily]

126. Good for Bernie!

[rhett o rick]

128. I remember that as one of the blackest (I am not referring to race) days in America

during my life time. I don't know why this hasn't gotten more visibility. I remember watching TV, CSPAN I believe, as Florida Representative after Representative came forward before the Senate and explained how in district after district the AA voters were not allowed to vote. Think about this for a fracking minute. Thousands and thousands of AA voters were denied the opportunity to vote. And what did the US Senate do? They collectively flipped the AA community off and turned their backs.

H. Clinton represents that culture. She is deeply embedded in the Establishment that has laid waste to the AA community.

[Faux pas]

129. Kickin' for the truth!

[amborin]

134. K&R

[jfern]

141. Bernie was the only white member of Congress

to show up to the US Civil Rights Commission meeting. Maybe he was concerned about the 1% on the list who were white, since the 88% who were black were invisible to him.

[SMC22307]

145. Those were some serious dark days. K&R for Bernie doing the right thing, per usual. (n/t)

[Empowerer]

148. That's nice that he did that

But one meeting in a 30+ year career is not that much to brag about.

Apparently, a majority of the CBC members who have been working on this issue for more than a decade don't feel that this was enough to earn a Civil Rights Icon of the decade award, either, since they are endorsing Hillary.

it's good that Bernie did the right thing and was "the only white guy to show up." But how many other times has he shown up when needed?

[Fawke Em]

159. One meeting?

He regularly came to CBC meetings.

[Empowerer]

160. No he didn't.

[Empowerer]

161. Oh, and Hillary didn't come to that meeting because she was co-hosting a Summit in DC with the CBC

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511262161

[jonestonesusa]

174. What do you mean "it's nice that he did that"?

How about, "He stood up for the democratic process, including black voters, at a pivitol historical moment, but others, including President Clinton, weren't hearing it?"

If you start memes saying Sanders did nothing on racial issues since the 60s, why not be intellectually honest and admit it when you've been proven wrong?

Advocacy is all good. Making up your own facts is what it is.

[Empowerer]

176. Who Sanders "has done nothing?" I certainly haven't ever said such a thing.

[jonestonesusa]

185. Cool, my bad and my apologies if this wasn't said. eom

[SamKnause]

156. K&R

[Empowerer]

162. Hillary was in DC that day co-sponsoring an African American summit with the CBC

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511262161

Greg Palest apparently forgot to mention that . . .

[Beowulf]

173. One event was a celebration by the power elite of Brown and the Voting Rights Act.

The other a working meeting to address the suppression of the black vote.

Not exactly the same thing, but I suppose it is an example of what you call building relationships. To me it looks like the power elite staying in the DC bubble congratulating themselves, while those outside the bubble try to actually do something about the problem.

[raouldukelives]

171. K&R nt

[jpb33]

172. Why are African Americans so fooled by HRC and Bill Clinton?

HRC & Bill Clinton have never done anything for the black community. I recall when Clinton left office and he was practically shamed into putting his post-presidency office in Harlem. His 1st choice was the very expensive Carnegie Hall Tower in the center of New York until the public made a huge uproar about its costs.

[Empowerer]

175. Oh, I don't know - maybe we're just not as smart as white people?

But keep telling us we don't know what's good for us because we don't know any better. We like it when you do that.

[Vattel]

187. Great post!