How Hillary Clinton Loses Me More Every Day.

[99th_Monkey]

How Hillary Clinton Loses Me More Every Day.
By delphine * Wednesday Feb 17, 2016 * Kos

Like many Bernie supporters I spent the first few months of 2015 trying to come to terms with the fact that the “likely” candidate, the frontrunner, was not someone I’d supported in the past and that I was not “likely” to find one of her supporters who would kindly tell me why she was a good choice. No one else was running at that point, and if she was going to be the nominee, I wanted to find out more. The response was pretty underwhelming, and in some cases, insulting. “Go listen to all of her speeches!” and “I’m not going to do your research for you” — as if it were all in the bag anyway and I’d soon just find myself in a voting booth with one choice anyway.

When Sanders declared, there was a lot of scoffing. We were all delusional children who would come to our senses in a couple months. To this day, apparently many detractors don’t seem to realize what an ignorant insult it is to continue to scoff, to say that he’s “never accomplished anything” or “no one in congress likes him” or “he’s a one-issue candidate who doesn’t bother to inform himself on other issues.” Or to tell his supporters that we are delusional worshippers of unicorn dust. It’s as though these are so well accepted among some that stating it is just “truth” rather than mean-spirited, uninformed insult.

But for months all Bernie supporters have had it thrown in our face that Clinton was doubtless going to be the nominee and all that was left was for us to pledge to vote for her. Fair enough, at least from their point of view, but why? Not “scary GOP” why, because we actually think Sanders can beat the GOP. But why?

I had some real substantive policy issues with Clinton, but I figured I could vote for her in decent conscience if she is the nominee, if only to keep the GOP from gaining more power. But then Bernie started to look like he might actually have a path to winning the nomination, and suddenly, things got really ugly. And it’s more and more difficult for me to say so easily that I can vote for her “in good conscience”. There are just some really disheartening things going on with her campaign right now that it truly loses me more every day:

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[nashville_brook]

1. if she'd run a campaign that actually mentioned what she stands for instead of attacking

Sanders, she might have a chance in November. but the way she's playing it now is so divisive that i have little hope for a win if she takes the nomination.

[Nanjeanne]

4. That's how I feel. Nt

[noiretextatique]

7. it is puzzling

truly. i don't understand her strategy. bill and chelsea are not helping.

[Lorien]

10. And there's one other big red flag to consider

If Trump runs (either as the GOP nominee or third party) all he has to say is "I donated to the Clintons, and they did whatever I asked!" no doubt he'll have records on hand to prove it, too. And he'll honestly be able to say that he's never done the same thing. But then again, neither has Bernie!

[ejbr]

17. +1 n.t

[hifiguy]

12. That's her problem

She stands for nothing she is not paid to stand for, and those doing the paying are sworn enemies of the people of this country who are in it only to enrich themselves further at the expense of the rest of us.

[arcane1]

27. She's a "one-issue" candidate now n/t

[farleftlib]

2. Yup

It's about the ugly. Why not just run a clean campaign on the issues? She has every advantage, the deck is stacked very heavily in her favor, probably overwhelmingly so, but she just has to go all guttersnipe. She will need all Bernie's followers if she gets nominated and it's like she's doing everything in her power to alienate them. It's ugly and it's really bad politics.

[AlbertCat]

20. Why not just run a clean campaign on the issues?

I don't think she understands how people feel about the issues. I don't think she thinks she can change much.... or wants to.

That's the way it comes across.

[jack_krass]

3. It's her supporters who lost me,

I like Hillary but cannot vote for her due to her obnoxious supporters here

[tk2kewl]

6. a sarcastic reference to the mean Bernie Bro meme i presume

[KelleyD]

32. Back atcha!!!

I am not committed but based on what I have seen from the Sanders backers...I am getting very disillusioned.

[CharlotteVale]

5. K&R..but I wouldn't call them "disheartening" - I'd call them disgusting & dishonest.

[99th_Monkey]

8. Yah, all of the above for me. n/t

[Punkingal]

9. What a list....it is impossible to feel good about her candidacy.

She will lose so bad in the GE...it frightens me.

[Beacool]

11. The Left and it's bubble: DU, Dailykos.

Nothing but drama 24/7.

I seriously doubt that Sanders will be the nominee. Vote for Hillary, don't vote for Hillary. All these self involved people who can't see beyond their noses can choose to vote for the Democratic nominee or not.

If by some fluke Sanders is the nominee, I will show up to vote for him like the grown up that I am. Do I want him as President? As much as I want a root canal, but a "democratic socialist' is still better than any Republican.

[RiverLover]

13. And Iowa and New Hampshire....and soon Nevada....

eom.

[Beacool]

14. Meh.....

[Gore1FL]

36. That's what the voters have been saying about Hillary thus far, too!

I don't think they used a smiley, though.

[AlbertCat]

22. I will show up to vote for him like the grown up that I am.

Oh thank GOD!

I don't what I'd do if you didn't!

Thank the Fathers that you are here to show us how to behave like adults!

Its just so wonderful of you to be above it all.

[brentspeak]

23. "The Left"...meaning to say, that you represent the Right. n/t

[JimDandy]

25. Amazing how some people out themselves. n/t

[arcane1]

37. Also known as "Fucking R*etards" as one of Obama's best friends called us.

Somehow Obama's people can use language like that to refer to us, but when Cornel West says negative things about Obama, we are traitors if we don't promptly deem West a non-person.

Go figure.

[Thor_MN]

29. Amazing that "those awful Hillary supporters" can say that they will support the nominee,

and be attacked with condescension by the "pure as driven snow" Sanders supporters...

[Beacool]

45. That's because a lot of his supporters are so young.

It's probably their first involvement in politics and they are very emotionally involved. It's either their candidate or nobody. People who are older tend to be a bit more jaundiced about the whole process. We know that it's better to have someone who agrees with us on most issues than to have someone who will try to destroy everything Obama and the Democrats worked for while in office. The ACA comes to mind. There's also SCOTUS to consider.

I think that Hillary will be the nominee, if she's not, then I'll vote for Sanders. The continual drama on LW sites about what they'll do if Hillary is the nominee, is tiresome at best. At worst, it's selfish and it's cutting one's nose to spite oneself.

[KelleyD]

33. I agree. n/t

[malokvale77]

15. I'm seeing the same all over the internet...

not just DU and Kos as one here has already chimed in.

I'm also hearing it in real life.

[99th_Monkey]

16. The Cats are already out of the bag re Clinton. I don't know how she can get them back in. nt

[malokvale77]

18. Frankly...

what is being said on DU and Kos is down right polite compared to what is being said elsewhere.

[mmm413]

19. I feel the same way.

I really had a hard time getting excited about this election. All I knew was that I wasn't going to vote for the GOP nominee. However, once Bernie got in, I got excited. The Clintons (all three of them) are doing nothing more than alienating me and probably millions of others. I wasn't for Hillary in 2008 (although she was "inevitable&quot . And I'm not for her now. The ONLY reason I would vote for her was to keep the GOP out of the White House. And that's a pretty shabby reason.

[Zen Democrat]

21. I really think the country has moved on from the Clintons.

I'm tired of their voices.

[AlbertCat]

24. I'm tired of their voices.

Exactly.

Like someone on here said: 'She's running the last 20th century campaign"

[merrily]

26. Geebus. If she lost me any more, my family would have to send out a search party.

[jillan]

31. Lol. Seriously!!

[jillan]

28. Thank you for posting this. I couldn't

Have said it any better.

[99th_Monkey]

35. Sure

my pleasure.

[WillyT]

30. HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!!

[ucrdem]

34. "Signed, Karl VWRC, longtime member of the Democrat party."

[jalan48]

38. The money she and Bill have made giving "speeches". Chelsea is in on the action too at $75,000 a pop

And we're all just supposed to applaud and pretend it's all on the up and up. Insulting is the correct word 99-Bernie has shown just how corrupt it really is.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

39. "...what she offers is not pragmatism, it’s stagnation..."

[libodem]

40. And then there's this

[99th_Monkey]

42. Holy Crap! I had no idea it was THAT bad. wow. great chart. nt

[libodem]

43. It's terrible

[99th_Monkey]

46. Little wonder Hillary can't seem to bring herself to support single-payer!!! nt

[libodem]

47. No Doubt

Follow the money!

[99th_Monkey]

48. "I'm going to build-on the ACA" translation

build-in fatter profits for BIG Pharma

[libodem]

49. Plan!

[Sheepshank]

41. Bwah haa haa...supporters are making the voting decision. Wait, isn't that whay Bernie folks say?

[Betty Karlson]

44. It is as if someone shares every feeling I have about Clinton.

Thanks for uplifting my spirit - it's good to know I am not alone in feeling ever more troubled to ever vote for the Third Way candidate.