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pinebox

(5,761 posts)
Wed Feb 17, 2016, 08:22 PM Feb 2016

Hillary Clinton Brought This on Herself: How a Democratic Primary Coronation Turned Into a War

Indeed she did and indeed the coronation has been canceled!
This is only a snippet...

Hillary Clinton Brought This on Herself: How a Democratic Primary Coronation Turned Into a War
Bernie Sanders has captured the imaginations of American progressives. He's also had some help.

http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/hillary-clinton-brought-herself-how-democratic-primary-coronation-turned-war

Over the past week, a hurricane seems to have hit the shores of Hillaryland. After suffering a landslide defeat in New Hampshire, the Clinton campaign is trying to figure out how to stop the growing storm that is Bernie Sanders. There have been reports that Hillary Clinton is planning to reorganize and hire some new staffers, while many supporters are starting to seriously worry about the campaign’s message, or lack thereof. Though members of the Clinton camp have denied any serious problems within the campaign, it is all reminiscent of 2008, when staff infighting and the rise of Obama doomed Clinton’s run.

Clinton’s first primary loss comes at a time when complications are hitting her campaign from left and right (as if the email nonsense wasn’t enough). The former secretary of state’s association with Wall Street has proven to be the most dogging issue, and there is little reason to think this topic will fade away any time soon. (You can be sure that Donald Trump, if nominated, will make a big stink about it.) Meanwhile, Clinton’s reaction to inquiries about her Goldman Sachs speeches, for which she earned $675,000 in 2013, has been almost as bad as her response to questions about her email last year. After first laughing in the face of the Intercept’s Lee Fang back in January when she was asked about releasing transcripts, Clinton said that she would “look into” doing so at the fifth Democratic debate, only to backtrack shortly afterward. Sources have said that the speech was “glowing,” and that she sounded like a “Goldman Sachs managing director,” which would explain why she is reluctant to release it.

Meanwhile, Clinton received some painstaking criticism on Wednesday from the prominent black intellectual and Ohio State University professor Michelle Alexander in a much-discussed article for the Nation. “If you listen closely here, you’ll notice that Hillary Clinton is still singing the same old tune in a slightly different key,” writes Alexander, in what is largely a critique of the Bill Clinton administration and its endless capitulations to the right wing.

Alexander continues:

She is arguing that we ought not be seduced by Bernie’s rhetoric because we must be “pragmatic,” “face political realities,” and not get tempted to believe that we can fight for economic justice and win. When politicians start telling you that it is “unrealistic” to support candidates who want to build a movement for greater equality, fair wages, universal healthcare, and an end to corporate control of our political system, it’s probably best to leave the room.

On the very same day, Ta-Nehisi Coates, who has been critical of Sen. Sanders for his opposition to reparations, said that he would still be voting for him — though he is adamant that he is not “endorsing” the senator. Meanwhile, Sanders has received endorsements from former leader of the NAACP Ben Jealous, public intellectual Dr. Cornel West, former Ohio state Sen. Nina Turner, Black Lives Matter activist Shaun King, and the longtime activist and confidant of Martin Luther King Jr. Harry Belafonte.

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Hillary Clinton Brought This on Herself: How a Democratic Primary Coronation Turned Into a War (Original Post) pinebox Feb 2016 OP
But it's her turn Perogie Feb 2016 #1
LOL That is awesome pinebox Feb 2016 #2
...... daleanime Feb 2016 #3
Depends on her definition of "is". n/t backscatter712 Feb 2016 #35
perfecto! 840high Feb 2016 #5
Love it! jillan Feb 2016 #9
That will leave a mark warrprayer Feb 2016 #10
LOL!!!!!! UnBlinkingEye Feb 2016 #12
+666 dchill Feb 2016 #28
LOL FreakinDJ Feb 2016 #29
lol perfect 840high Feb 2016 #4
Kickin' & a Recken' 2banon Feb 2016 #6
K/R UglyGreed Feb 2016 #7
"...a critique of the Bill Clinton administration and its endless capitulations to the right wing." RiverLover Feb 2016 #8
"Reorganize": Meaning, some of our more notable pro-Hillary posters here might soon brentspeak Feb 2016 #11
NOICE! jham123 Feb 2016 #21
The Clinton's are so corrupt it's oozing from every pore of their oligarch family. SciDude Feb 2016 #13
Truth serum dorkzilla Feb 2016 #14
OMG farleftlib Feb 2016 #24
It's my new favorite gif dorkzilla Feb 2016 #34
This kristopher Feb 2016 #15
I agree with you dragonfly301 Feb 2016 #16
Nothing like a thread full of right wing memes to show your bona fides. n/t JTFrog Feb 2016 #17
If you hafta dismiss, them, can you at least be accurate and call them left wing memes? Armstead Feb 2016 #18
No. I call them what they are. n/t JTFrog Feb 2016 #20
The rw talking points I see are the ones attacking Bernie. libtodeath Feb 2016 #22
There aren't any right wing memes in this thread attacking Bernie. JTFrog Feb 2016 #26
I guess you miss the threads saying libtodeath Feb 2016 #27
I like both candidates. JTFrog Feb 2016 #31
No.. asuhornets Feb 2016 #19
Turning it into a coronation invited this. kenfrequed Feb 2016 #23
A coronation appeals to RW Authoritarian notions....Hillary's base. HooptieWagon Feb 2016 #30
This thread ROCKS! jham123 Feb 2016 #25
Yup check this out pinebox Feb 2016 #32
"This is why the BernieBros are turning people off everywhere they go. " jham123 Feb 2016 #36
No kidding pinebox Feb 2016 #37
Poor Hillary. She lost her copy of "Advanced CYA for Politician" text in her baggage car. Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2016 #33
But, but... I can change the future of this country!!! I can see where it happens! cascadiance Feb 2016 #38

RiverLover

(7,830 posts)
8. "...a critique of the Bill Clinton administration and its endless capitulations to the right wing."
Wed Feb 17, 2016, 09:58 PM
Feb 2016

They capitulate because they are right wing.

And she wants "to get things done", pragmatic things. Warm purple space things....

Thank goodness for Bernie. Ironic that it takes someone who wasn't technically a Democrat to hopefully save Democrats.

brentspeak

(18,290 posts)
11. "Reorganize": Meaning, some of our more notable pro-Hillary posters here might soon
Wed Feb 17, 2016, 10:58 PM
Feb 2016

be looking for work at other PR astroturfing agencies.

 

SciDude

(79 posts)
13. The Clinton's are so corrupt it's oozing from every pore of their oligarch family.
Wed Feb 17, 2016, 11:14 PM
Feb 2016

Bill is out there making a fool of himself just several months after his embarrassing "apology" for his disastrous policies he put into place while president.

They sent their precious little oligarch-offspring (they marred her off to a hedge fund manager for fucks sakes) on the trail to take silly pot-shots at Sanders.

Hillary is again in melt-down mode circa 2008... deja vu all over again.

It would almost be funny if they weren't so dangerous and so bent on enriching themselves at the expense of our country.

kristopher

(29,798 posts)
15. This
Wed Feb 17, 2016, 11:23 PM
Feb 2016
(Hillary) is arguing that we ought not be seduced by Bernie’s rhetoric because we must be “pragmatic,” “face political realities,” and not get tempted to believe that we can fight for economic justice and win. When politicians start telling you that it is “unrealistic” to support candidates who want to build a movement for greater equality, fair wages, universal healthcare, and an end to corporate control of our political system, it’s probably best to leave the room.
 

JTFrog

(14,274 posts)
26. There aren't any right wing memes in this thread attacking Bernie.
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 01:33 PM
Feb 2016

However, you can find all these memes (and most used to attack Hillary) on the most disgusting of conservative sites.

But, hey... You see what you see. Whatever helps you sleep at night I guess.



libtodeath

(2,888 posts)
27. I guess you miss the threads saying
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 01:37 PM
Feb 2016

Bernie is a marxist,Bernie is going to raise taxes,Bernies plans cant work.

But hey whatever helps you get by I guess.

 

JTFrog

(14,274 posts)
31. I like both candidates.
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 01:48 PM
Feb 2016

I tend to speak up more when Clinton is attacked because there is no rabid, slobbering, right wing attack that isn't defended here. There is no end to the right wing slime dripping down the walls of DU as new (and sometimes not so new) posters fall all over themselves dredging up shit like Vince Foster, Benghazi and regurgitated memes.

I am skeptical, but I don't bash Bernie. I like both candidates. That's what helps me get by I guess.





asuhornets

(2,405 posts)
19. No..
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 01:27 PM
Feb 2016

She did not bring this upon herself. The people who are against her brought it. We still have 48 more states to go. I mean someone had to run against her.

kenfrequed

(7,865 posts)
23. Turning it into a coronation invited this.
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 01:29 PM
Feb 2016

She tried too hard to lock up too many superdelegates and scare off too many competitors. Democrats really, really hate it when people try to do this.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
30. A coronation appeals to RW Authoritarian notions....Hillary's base.
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 01:48 PM
Feb 2016

There couldn't be a bigger turnoff to left-leaning Democrats. The fear-mongering, insults, and threats just dig themselves into a deeper hole.

jham123

(278 posts)
25. This thread ROCKS!
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 01:32 PM
Feb 2016

lol Many times over again.

The $Hillary's are doing all the damage control they can by being dismissive and invoking Dean Scream tactics, but it ain't gonna work

jham123

(278 posts)
36. "This is why the BernieBros are turning people off everywhere they go. "
Thu Feb 18, 2016, 03:25 PM
Feb 2016

Proud BernieBro right here!!

Please address me in the proper etiquette from now on....."BernieBro"

*runs to permanently change username*

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