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2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumBernie Sanders Struggles to ‘Champion Women’ like Hillary Clinton
http://time.com/4192885/bernie-sanderss-abortion-hillary-clinton/Bernie Sanders supports abortion rights. He just doesnt support them quite enough for reproductive rights groups.
The Vermont Senator was on the defensive at the CNN Town Hall Monday night when an audience member asked him about his assertion last week that Planned Parenthood and the Human Rights Campaign are part the establishment he plans to bring down. Both organizations recently endorsed Hillary Clinton, in the first primary endorsement in Planned Parenthoods history.
Sanders reiterated his support for Planned Parenthood and called for increased funding before clarifying his comment. What I said on a television program, and I did not say it well, is that sometimes the base of an organization looks at the world a little bit differently than the leadership, he said. The implication was that the leadership of Planned Parenthood might be establishment, even if the base is not.
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If you have 100 percent Planned Parenthood voting record, 100 percent pro-choice voting record, there are people who are asking, why is the leadership not either supporting Bernie Sanders or why are they, you know, opposing him? Sanders asked Monday night. What more do they want from him?
Good question, and NARAL had an answer. Senator Sanders once again highlighted the difference between an ally and a champion, Kaylie Hanson, NARAL Pro-Choice America National Communications Director, said in a statement about the Town Hall. His voting record is sufficient, but it doesnt make him a champion for women. That champion is Hillary. Cecile Richards has echoed that sentiment: We have a lot of friends in Congress, but we have one true champion, she said.
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Bernie Sanders Struggles to ‘Champion Women’ like Hillary Clinton (Original Post)
Bill USA
Feb 2016
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Given the attacks on abortion rights, it's perfectly understandable that they support a stronger adv
PeaceNikki
Feb 2016
#1
I'm one of those weird people who would really be happy with either Hillary or Bernie....
zigby
Feb 2016
#4
Given her support for a ban on late term abortions I'd say the opposite is true.
beam me up scottie
Feb 2016
#8
PeaceNikki
(27,985 posts)1. Given the attacks on abortion rights, it's perfectly understandable that they support a stronger adv
advocate for it.
zigby
(125 posts)4. I'm one of those weird people who would really be happy with either Hillary or Bernie....
But Hillary is the only one who trotted out the line about amending the fucking constitution. I used to think she wouldn't waver but holee---sheeit.
PeaceNikki
(27,985 posts)5. That was a conversation taken out of context.
cali
(114,904 posts)6. She is not.
PeaceNikki
(27,985 posts)7. I disagree.
Bjorn Against
(12,041 posts)2. I think the women of New Hampshire might disagree
Response to Bill USA (Original post)
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beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)8. Given her support for a ban on late term abortions I'd say the opposite is true.
Unlike Hillary Bernie has always been 100% pro-choice.
She even used right wing terminology calling late term abortions "partial birth abortions":
Late term abortion only if life or health are at risk
Q: Are there circumstances when the government should limit choice?
LAZIO: I had a pro-choice record in the House, and I believe in a womans right to choose. I support a ban on partial-birth abortions. Senator Moynihan called it infanticide. Even former mayor Ed Koch agreed that this was too extreme a procedure. This is an area where I disagree with my opponent. My opponent opposes a ban on partial-birth abortions.
CLINTON: My opponent is wrong. I have said many times that I can support a ban on late-term abortions, including partial-birth abortions, so long as the health and life of the mother is protected. Ive met women who faced this heart-wrenching decision toward the end of a pregnancy. Of course its a horrible procedure. No one would argue with that. But if your life is at stake, if your health is at stake, if the potential for having any more children is at stake, this must be a womans choice.
Source: Senate debate in Manhattan , Oct 8, 2000
http://www.ontheissues.org/2016/Hillary_Clinton_Abortion.htm
LAZIO: I had a pro-choice record in the House, and I believe in a womans right to choose. I support a ban on partial-birth abortions. Senator Moynihan called it infanticide. Even former mayor Ed Koch agreed that this was too extreme a procedure. This is an area where I disagree with my opponent. My opponent opposes a ban on partial-birth abortions.
CLINTON: My opponent is wrong. I have said many times that I can support a ban on late-term abortions, including partial-birth abortions, so long as the health and life of the mother is protected. Ive met women who faced this heart-wrenching decision toward the end of a pregnancy. Of course its a horrible procedure. No one would argue with that. But if your life is at stake, if your health is at stake, if the potential for having any more children is at stake, this must be a womans choice.
Source: Senate debate in Manhattan , Oct 8, 2000
http://www.ontheissues.org/2016/Hillary_Clinton_Abortion.htm
And again just last year:
Some champion.
uponit7771
(90,347 posts)9. Didn't his camp bash Planned Parenthood?