If Obama is a man of his word, he should not endorse Hillary

[berni_mccoy]

One of Obama's pillars was that he would not have lobbyists running Washington. And now here we have not ONLY the DNC lifting the rule to not accept campaign contributions from lobbyists, but many of Hillary's Super Delegates ARE IN FACT lobbyists.

I'm voting (and contributing and volunteering) for Bernie because FUCK THIS SHIT!

[Cali_Democrat]

1. Obama will not endorse anyone until there's a pretty clear winner

If it's Bernie, he'll endorse Bernie.

If it's Hillary, he'll endorse Hillary.

Not too complicated.

[berni_mccoy]

2. I get it. You condone Super Delegate Lobbyists.

Nuff. said

[randys1]

4. I think it sucks but they are irrelevant. Whichever candidate has the most delegates

minus supers will get the supers.

[merrily]

5. Very straightforward--unless you pay attention to Carney and signals.

[Chichiri]

10. Oh my god, you get the signals too!?

I thought I was all alone! My god, I've been getting the signals since I was eight years old! It's lonely being in our shoes, isn't it?

Can I ask . . . do they turn your corn flakes green too?

[merrily]

11. Sorry about that. Have you seen a doctor about it?

[merrily]

3. Remember Candidate 2008 Obama?

[kristopher]

6. Biden is going to endorse Hillary tomorrow night just before the SC town hall.

Note my prediction.

[jillan]

8. Hahahaa! Not only has Biden practically endorsed Bernie, he also was going to run to

keep the Clintons out of the WH.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/11/politics/joe-biden-bernie-sanders-hillary-clinton-income-inequality/

http://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2016-01-11/biden-praises-bernie-sanders-on-guns-inequality

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/biden-comes-close-endorsing-bernie-175300917.html

http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/videos/2016-01-12/biden-sounds-like-sanders-surrogate-why-s-he-doing-this-

http://time.com/3981228/beau-biden-joe-biden-president/

[kristopher]

9. I hope so

He is a consistent corporatist, though. I'm a Delawarean and I've always supported him, but he has let me down a few times on major, major things (when he knew better) that make me think he is very much a 'party' animal.

I'll be delighted to be wrong.

[SpartanDem]

19. Prediction based on...

certainly not past practices and the current tight race thatsays neither Biden or Obama will endorse anyone until their is a clear winner.

[kristopher]

21. I won't mind a bit being wrong.

But he made some comments today that caused me to think he is going to weigh in.

[berni_mccoy]

24. Ok I noted it. What next?

[kristopher]

25. Yuuge Fail, eh?

He did endorse the Establishment, though. All we need to do is roll back corporate behavior to where it was about 20 years ago and everything will be fine.

[Vogon_Glory]

7. If Bernie Sanders Is All Bernistas Think He Is

<yawn>

If Bernie Sanders is all that DU's more enthusiastic Bernistas think he is, it doesn't matter if the President endorses former Secretary of State Clinton or not, because their boy supposedly has the Democratic Party nomination already in the bag.

[berni_mccoy]

13. Nothing to do with what I posted. This is about Obama

And his conviction (or lack thereof)

[Vogon_Glory]

23. Cue up the violin soloist

[Nyan]

26. You sound very bitter.

And my candidate is a bit too old to be called a "boy."

[Vogon_Glory]

29. No, just cynical and amused

No, just cynical and amused. I'm also old enough to remember McGovernites and John Anderson fans, too.

As for the typical Bernistas mindset, I'd say that some Bernistas need to grow thicker skins or wear the Big Girl Panties made with Kevlar. If they're this sensitive with their fellow Democrats, just wait 'Til they get in the ring with vile, lying, a-calumny-a-day-makes-me-feel-OK, cheating, $#!xx-throwing Tea-Baggers, Republicans, and Religious Right bigots.

[Nyan]

30. okay then.

I was wrong. You don't sound bitter at all.

[sheshe2]

12. "IF?"

[berni_mccoy]

14. A man's word is constantly measured against his actions

But I don't expect members of amp weathervane to understand that.

[sheshe2]

15. Lol~

Would love to respond. The hide just ain't worth it.

Have a wonderful evening.

[berni_mccoy]

17. You to sheshe!

We were on the same side once. We will again soon.

[JudyM]

16. I've been thinking about Obama a lot the past couple of days, wondering if his optics and "deals"

with the Clintons or the DNC didn't constrain him, what he would be saying.

2008 Barack likely would've been supportive of Bernie, but what about the Barack who has lived through all his years at the center of the political maelstrom?

[enigmatic]

18. He won't endorse either before the Convention

If he endorses Bernie, the DNC Machine will grind him up faster than cheap hamburger and he'll be through as a member od the Democratic Party.

If he endorses Hillary, he'll kiss off the millenial vote forever for the Democratic Party and be labeled as bought and paid for, going against what elected him in the first place.

If he endorses one and the other wins the nomination, he'll look like a fool.

[Yog-Sothoth]

20. Obama has already subtly endorsed Clinton

...at least in two different interviews.

He was also right to do so. Sanders is not a realistic or intelligent selection for our nominee.

We will nominate Clinton.

[Myrina]

22. He's the de facto head of the Dems at this point

... he's obviously going to stand with whoever the nominee ends up being. It would be silly for him to a/ pick sides now and b/ not support the eventual nominee.

[Renew Deal]

27. I don't believe for a second that you care about this issue.

[Nyan]

28. After TPP, I no longer have any illusion about him.

TPP is worse than NAFTA, you know.
He's already a corporate democrat while he might be deluding many democrats otherwise, and possibly, himself as well.
He's already alluded to his preference towards Hillary, because he's counting on the next president to finalize TPP. I won't be surprised if he does endorse her. And then we will be looking at virtual party fraction -even if it's not a physical fraction, the electorate will be divided beyond repair.